Murray Looks Fearless

[bic50]

Realistically, I'm looking ahead to the future. This deflating loss will most likely lead to a sweep. If things play out as they should, Spurs get blown out in Game 2 (I'll say 28 points), lose by 15 in Game 3 and about 7 in Game 4. They aren't mentally ready to win. They don't believe they can win. They lost their composure out there today. You could see it on Manu's face. He knows this loss is going to crush any thought or belief they had of winning this series. They have now blown back to back 25 point leads to the Dubs. Ridiculous.

I want to see Murray get more minutes out there. He screwed up but he also made some things happen.

This wasn't just a blown lead. Things went downhill when they lost their best player. Kawhi doesn't go out and Spurs likely pull off the victory. Only concern they should have is Kawhi health. A healthy Kawhi gives them a chance but it doesn't look good.

[tmtcsc]

With respect, they lost their starting PG, and THEN they lost the best player on either team. And let's not forget that Kawhi is still arguably the best defender in the league, and the Spurs were getting the job done with defense. That's probably more important to what happened than losing his offense.

I'm not a Tony Parker fan tbh, so we'll agree to disagree on what his loss means to the team. We had a chance with a Kawhi but not without him. Simmons, Anderson, Manu and even Green made some horrible turnovers during the 0-18 run. They lost their cool, slipped up on defense and turned the ball over. Of course Aldridge got rattled too and couldn't but a shot. After that, they played on their heels and awaited their fate. It sucked to watch.


I'd like to see Murray get some more experience out there.

[tholdren]

Realistically, I'm looking ahead to the future. This deflating loss will most likely lead to a sweep. If things play out as they should, Spurs get blown out in Game 2 (I'll say 28 points), lose by 15 in Game 3 and about 7 in Game 4. They aren't mentally ready to win. They don't believe they can win. They lost their composure out there today. You could see it on Manu's face. He knows this loss is going to crush any thought or belief they had of winning this series. They have now blown back to back 25 point leads to the Dubs. Ridiculous.

I want to see Murray get more minutes out there. He screwed up but he also made some things happen.

spurs need to run
Murray simmons green fat head lma
patty manu off the bench with dedmon and bertans and lee

[tmtcsc]

This wasn't just a blown lead. Things went downhill when they lost their best player. Kawhi doesn't go out and Spurs likely pull off the victory. Only concern they should have is Kawhi health. A healthy Kawhi gives them a chance but it doesn't look good.

'Things went downhill" is putting it lightly. They collapsed. They were outscored by 25 points in the next 20 minutes. Is the team so dependent on 1 player? That's not a team.

[tmtcsc]

spurs need to run
Murray simmons green fat head lma
patty manu off the bench with dedmon and bertans and lee

No way. If they try to run with GS they'll die a quick death. No team is going to beat GS by running with them. You run when you force turnovers and try to get easy baskets. Portland's much better at "running" than the Spurs and you see where that got them. Down by 20 in the 1st quarter.

[BillMc]

'Things went downhill" is putting it lightly. They collapsed. They were outscored by 25 points in the next 20 minutes. Is the team so dependent on 1 player? That's not a team.

Two players. I know you've gone on record as not liking Parker, but I'm sure you'd admit that he'd have steadied the offense enough that we wouldn't have had the chaos. It might not have been pretty but we'd have gotten a few more points. Which is all we needed.

[tmtcsc]

Two players. I know you've gone on record as not liking Parker, but I'm sure you'd admit that he'd have steadied the offense enough that we wouldn't have had the chaos. It might not have been pretty but we'd have gotten a few more points. Which is all we needed.

Yes, Parker would have helped on offense. Aldridge shrank as did Simmons. Miss after miss. What was up with Simmons falling down all over the place?

[BillMc]

Yes, Parker would have helped on offense. Aldridge shrank as did Simmons. Miss after miss. What was up with Simmons falling down all over the place?

Simmons is so hot and cold. Some days I think we MUST sign this guy, he's Kawhi-lite, other days, he's just a 28 year old wing with limited skills who won't be worth the money. Feast or famine.

[tholdren]

No way. If they try to run with GS they'll die a quick death. No team is going to beat GS by running with them. You run when you force turnovers and try to get easy baskets. Portland's much better at "running" than the Spurs and you see where that got them. Down by 20 in the 1st quarter.

spurs lost because they couldn't play half court without kl. you have to get ppl moving and whipping the ball around. they get easy baskets they get in the flow. we just saw what trying to slow play and bully got us. we don't have enough mean players for that

[tmtcsc]

spurs lost because they couldn't play half court without kl. you have to get ppl moving and whipping the ball around. they get easy baskets they get in the flow. we just saw what trying to slow play and bully got us. we don't have enough mean players for that

Agreed. Why Aldridge doesn't start posting up closer to the basket is beyond me.

[spursmvp]

Agreed. Why Aldridge doesn't start posting up closer to the basket is beyond me.

He could barely post up Harden before game 6. Draymond and zaza just pushed him out. And can someone talk about Pau? How much did we pay him? I doubt he can post up anyone on this forum at this point.

[tbdog]

'Things went downhill" is putting it lightly. They collapsed. They were outscored by 25 points in the next 20 minutes. Is the team so dependent on 1 player? That's not a team.

When the other team has 4 allstars, then yes. We when are also missing our starting pg, then yes.

[timtonymanu]

One of the bright spots to the Spurs season. Can't wait until next season and how he looks. Hopefully he and Kawhi become an all star duo, a more efficient version of Durant and Westbrook.

[DMC]

He'd be great if he could get the ball up court without turning it over.

[Ice009]

spurs need to run
Murray simmons green fat head lma
patty manu off the bench with dedmon and bertans and lee

IMO, the reason we had that lead is because Kawhi and LMA were controlling the tempo of the game. Kawhi was playing at a great pace. Not too fast and not too slow. the Warriors and their bull luck. The Spurs did push the pace when the opportunities were there, but they didn't rush or try and run with them. That Kawhi injury killed the Spurs flow of the game. Like someone else mentioned, they may have been OK if Parker was there to help steady the offense, but without those two, the offense of the Spurs fell apart and it actually fed the Warriors offensive game.

After this game/at this point, I wouldn't want to pay Patty Mills starters money as he's not a starting PG on a team that wants to win it all IMO. He's great as a combo guard that can play a little bit of PG, but if he wants to start at PG, he can do it someplace else. I'm still going to support him in all the upcoming games, though. Just trying to be realistic about him as a starting PG in the long term.

[-21-]

Dejounte is very promising. I like how he seems unfazed by pressure but he's got a lot of work to do. His shooting and finishing at the rim has to improve. His handles need to be tighter. He has to be more aware defensively. And finally, he needs to bulk up. Fortunately, he's got the tools and he's getting the minutes, so one by one, I think those improvements will come.

[BillMc]

That's a damn good thread.

Thanks!

[spurraider21]

He'd be great if he could get the ball up court without turning it over.

had it happen one time against beverley and you act like it's a recurring theme

[duncan2k5]

had it happen one time against beverley and you act like it's a recurring theme

Seriously!!!

[DMC]

had it happen one time against beverley and you act like it's a recurring theme

Happened again last night.

[Atl Spur]

Losing the ball, air balls, etc....... Are fine by me for a rookie on the NBA biggest stage vs having veterans crapping their pants in the same situations. Murray will be able to hone in on skills through time and on court experiences. The trait he needs to have and actually does have is the KILLER INSTINCT.......

[GSH]

How many games would the Spurs have won without Kawhi Leonard (and with no replacement - just no Kawhi)? Forty? Forty-Five? So that's Portland or Memphis. How have teams that level fare against the Warriors this year, and this playoffs? The Spurs didn't lose their composure after Kawhi went down - they got their asses kicked by a better team.

And I never said that Parker would have been the difference maker. He was the starting PG. They lost him during the playoffs, and managed to regroup - during the playoffs. They were clicking as a team, and they had rotations that were working. Then they lost their best player - the best player on either team, and they were out of sync. If they were playing a weak first-round opponent, that might not have gotten shown up so badly. But they were playing against the damn Warriors at full strength.

They were barely treading water, and then the fouls started to pile up - and Pop was forced to make subs utions because of foul problems. All of that is the snowball effect from losing their best player, while already being down one starter. Take LeBron off the Cavs and see how badly they "lose their composure".

[Phenomanul]

Why were all the Spurs slipping on the floor...? REPEATEDLY... so annoying...

[Atl Spur]

Leonard is a bad boy!!! He is best player in the world and this game proved it. This best two way player bull crap is just that bull crap! He needs the help that all of the other power teams have. Give him another ballsy player and he will lead us to the championship; a bunch of near forty year olds are not gonna get it done!

[bic50]

He'd be great if he could get the ball up court without turning it over.

He has a lot of potential.