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Before this thread hits bottom there will be some reason to bump it up. I have confidence in Islam.
Portland Murder Suspect Calls Stabbings ‘Patriotism’ In First Court Appearance
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...Email%20053117
Before this thread hits bottom there will be some reason to bump it up. I have confidence in Islam.
Avante knows the "bottom" very well, he or she dwells there.
Perfect for you two clowns.
http://www.portlandmercury.com/blogt...te-supremacist
Dude is about as right-wing as it gets. You don't like the nutty fringe of the right-wing, but it is there, just like the nutty end of the left is.
I don't think the narrative is "false" so much as one you just don't like to admit, because you can't admit people on your end of the ideological spectrum might (gasp) do/say stupid/evil things.
Christian is a known right wing extremist and white supremacist. On April 29, Christian showed up to the right-wing "March for Free Speech" on 82nd Avenue in Montavilla with a baseball bat in an attempt to assault left-wing protesters. The bat was quickly confiscated by Portland police officers. He ranted how he was a nihilist. He'd soon yelled racial slurs (" all you n*****s") and gave the Nazi salute throughout the day. He yelled "Hail Vinland" throughout the day.
A few Portland police officers on April 29 appeared to be familiar with Christian, but not threatened by him. They claimed he had a head injury and was mentally ill.
https://www.facebook.com/events/2003513036544033/
Seems about as right wing as it gets. This is the event that nutbar with brain damage showed up to, literally draped in the American flag.
"He can't be a right-winger, because [right-wingers can't be crazy]"The No True Scotsman (NTS) fallacy is a logical fallacy that occurs when a debater defines a group such that every group member possess some quality. For example, it is common to argue that "all members of [my religion] are fundamentally good", and then to abandon all bad individuals as "not true [my-religion]-people". This can occur in two ways:
1.During argument, someone re-defines the group in order to exclude counter-examples. Instead of backing down from "all group members are X" to "most group members are X", the debater simply redefines the group.[2][3]
2.Before argument, someone preemptively defines some group such that the group definitionally must be entirely "good" or entirely "bad". However, this definition was created arbitrarily for this defensive purpose, rather than based on the actual qualities of the group.[4]
NTS can be thought of as a form of inverted cherry picking, where instead of selecting favourable examples, you reject unfavourable ones. The NTS fallacy paves the path to other logical fallacies, such as letting the "best" member of a group represent it. Thanks to these remarkable qualities, the NTS fallacy is a vital tool in the promotion of denialism.
In short: Both arguers should agree on a definition and stick to it.
Is that what you are trying for here?
Tell us more about the right-wing hardcore Bernie Sanders supporter.
Christian showed up to the right-wing "March for Free Speech" on 82nd Avenue in Montavilla with a baseball bat in an attempt to assault left-wing protesters.
RandomGuy you've got a lot of catching up to do concerning Christian
Not sure I have the time bandwidth. It is mildly fun to play the "right/left wing" dance, but bottom line is the dude appears to be a bit brain-damaged. In all fairness neither side gets to claim his dumb ass for that reason.
Far more productive, IMO, to outline the case of how immoral the right is when you get people on the right saying things like "the children of poor people should be allowed to starve to death rather than have any government assistance".
or, for that matter, a complete hypocritical silence on the part of the Republican leadership on calls for that dude in Montana to resign for physically assaulting a reporter.
he probably only liked bernie because of his stance on guns like you
what specific parts of bernies platform do you think drove christian to stab two people who confronted him for harassing muslims?
i predict you wont answer this question
It's a stupid ing question. Are you stupid enough to think 100% of Bernie supporters are not racist?
who ever said that? im just trying to figure out why you and your russian troll friends are so desperate to make this sound like it was somehow motivated by a leftist mindset.
anti-muslim is anti-muslim. they exist everywhere. but its driven by and most common with trump people like you.
I don't see a single person here saying it was somehow motivated by a leftist mindset. What I see are people asking how it was driven by a right wing mindset when it is apparent the guy was a mentally unstable hardcore Bernie Sanders supporter.
anti-muslim is anti-muslim. they exist everywhere. but its driven by and most common with trump people like you.
people aren't calling an attack directed towards muslims a product of a leftist mindset because i dont know of any leftist message that calls for hostility towards muslims.
islamophobia is a right wing mindset. those people sometimes still vote for left wing candidates.
west virginia is full of racist democrats.
Why are you trying to sneak in quotes to my post? If you have something to say just say it.
The same guy who said if Trump was Hitler he would join the SS also said he couldn't and didn't vote for Trump, along with calling for the death of both Trump and Hillary.
You guys are trying to pigeonhole a dude with severe mental issues and look foolish.
Islamaphobia is just a mindset, much like racism.
i already did say that (read pgs 23-24 of this thread)... i decided to add it to your quote too just for fun.
i already said (at the end of page 23 and start of page 24) that im not blaming trump/republicans for what happened. but in response to "why do people call this a right wing attack" i address that point in full
a tribal conservative mindset that tends to benefit conservative politicians, right good talk
Please provide exact quote #'s so I can verify.
You could have forged those just like you did earlier when adding the Hitler SS to my quote. Please provide the exact quote #'s so I can verify.
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