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So they could , in theory, retain him and still have the MLE if they go over the cap?
They don't need the MLE for Simmons, as they have his EB rights.
So they could , in theory, retain him and still have the MLE if they go over the cap?
Yes, and the LLE.
Is this a sign they are trying to clear cap space?
Not necessarily. With the rosters expanding to 17, him being inexpensive (probably 1 year minimum) and the need for as many mid sized defenders as possible in today's game, there's really no reason not to sign him.
It just so happens that there's a lot of overlap with Simmons, so he could be a somewhat of a replacement. In reality though, if Simmons is re-signed, he'll likely be the third wing, while Hanga will likely be fifth or sixth.
Not redundant. Its 2017. Spurs will need to play more wings moving forward and they need to be long, athletic and defensive. Kawhi, Green, Simmons, and Hanga are that.
If we can clear space for him...a lot of that depends on Manu's decision, really.
The Spurs are obviously willing to flex the wing position with 2s, 3s, and 4s...but that still is an area that doesn't have a lot of minutes available.
Let's say there are 96 minutes between the SG and SF. Kawhi is obviously going to eat up at least 35MPG when it matters.
Danny is probably going to get another 30 MPG (if he isn't shipped off in a trade for CP3 or another big piece).
That leaves 31 minutes to piece out between Manu (if he returns), Simmons, Hanga, and Anderson.
Slomo may be able to spell some minutes at PF as well, but...the wing was a pretty crowded area on the floor last season. If it weren't for Tony and Kawhi's injury, we probably wouldn't have even seen much of Simmons or Anderson in the playoffs.
Like I said, a lot depends on if Manu is going to be back next season. If he is, then it probably makes less sense to have Simmons around. If not, then keeping The Juice in the fridge is worth paying for a reasonable contract.
A 2nd unit of Manu (as PG), Simmons (as SG) and Hanga (as SF) could be interesting against other team's benches.
Or Murray Hanga Simmons Bertans Bell
As well.Or Murray Hanga Simmons Bertans Bell
No spacing and not enough defensive rebounding. Post defense would also be an issue against Jefferson, Randolph, Monroe, Cousins (probably comes out early and returns when Davis rests), Kanter, Okafor.Or Murray Hanga Simmons Bertans Bell
Barring significant improvement in Murray's range shooting, just playing him with one of Simmons or Hanga will be difficult enough; both would be untenable.
We were talking vs benches type of players and obviously taking matchups into consideration.
I know, but you still need to be able to space the floor and defensive rebound.
why is everyone calling him old?
100%
Wings al who can switch and defend are hard to come by. They're so important with smallball. And against GS they need a lot of guys to get out and switch so that GS never gets an advantage
Best case scenario: Kawhi, Green, Manu, Simmons, Hanga, Murray, Paul/Hill/Jrue, ...
1-3 they'll be able to switch and cover all over
You know damn well that if someone is close to Danny Green, he cannot do with the ball you daft ****. Do you even understand game flow? If he doesn't have an open 3 he rarely takes a shot because he cannot finish in traffic on the regular. Hanga on the other hand can do more than just chuck up a 3. He can initiate and draw fouls and things that Green just doesn't seem to be able to do. Sure Green has the better 3pt percentage, but an and 1 is worth just as many points plus the added bonus of getting a team into foul trouble. Do us all a favor and learn a bit on how the game is played and you may see that what I am saying has merit.
Danny Green last season averaged a miniscule 1 total FTA every 2 games. Hanga averages 2.5 EVERY game.
Danny Green if he took 10 3 point shots at his 40% 3pt% and 1 free throw over the course of 2 games would have a total of 25 points. Hanga would average 22 points if he took his average FT makes per game and 3pfg% when taking 10 3's. This gives Green a HUGE advantage as it is his specialty. Hanga is still right there with him with the difference over 2 games being rather negligible.
Now let us do the same with 2pts and FTA
Green if he took 10 2PA would score when combined with FT 17.8 PPG. Hanga would generate 26 PPG under the same conditions with his 2pt FG%.
So tell me again why I am wrong?
Xellos with the one-dimensional analysis.
Most people cannot handle more than one dimension. It is a courtesy dude.
Hanga also averages more steals, rebounds and assists. Green has him on blocks though.
He's rated the same as Simmons on 2k17.. lol But his defense an dunking is waaaaaaay better. 3's an jumpers are trash!
I agree what's good is Green when come playoff they just guard him with there best offense player so he can rest cause he knows Green can't dribble the damn ball. Not that I hate Green to me he is kinda like Patty ur sixth or 7th man. It to me he is not starting material for SG.
Theres always positives and negatives to most bench lineups , but by all means, carve out the negatives you see. Just like you did with Dedmon/ Lee front court at start of last year. They wouldnt work because spacing right?
Xellos is all about counting stats and not situational. Green isn't in the game to drive to the basket, and three point shooters rarely get fouled.
Green has the top block percentage of any guard in NBA history. Yeah, that's right.
Hanga has played zero games in the NBA so his stats may not translate to the NBA. I'm sure drawing and ones is harder in the NBA than it is in Europe. Though international game is less minutes.
Green's elite offensive skill works when surrounded by certain players (guys who need ball in their hands) as it creates gravity away from them. If you had Hanga or Simmons or whoever, you could switch off everyone behind the line and pack the paint.
Hanga has been a nice defender in Europe and I hope it translates to the NBA and he's not a liability on offense. Green is already a near All Defense team guy.
He'll be a 29 year old rookie next season. That's way too ing old for a rookie.
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