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    Or Murray Hanga Simmons Bertans Bell
    Bertans would be the only guy that could shoot the ball.

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    Bertans would be the only guy that could shoot the ball.
    Okay.

    Forbes Morrow Novak Bertans Tolliver.

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    He'll be a 29 year old rookie next season. That's way too ing old for a rookie.
    Don't think he's 29 until April

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    Scola came over at 27. It's not unheard of. Definitely possible they can squeeze out 2-3 years of usefulness.

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    Green slurpers are on their rag, I see.

    Obviously D-League is a better shooter. Green is a 32-37 3p% shooter nowadays. Hanga was at 30% in a euro 3pt line. Otoh Hanga can do other stuff which D-League just can't.

    Defensively RIGHT NOW the pecking order of our wings would be Leonard-Simmons-Hanga-Green. You can argue with this if you disagree. Simmons had a masterpiece of a defensive job these playoffs being the primary defender on Harden and Klay. Danny hasn't had a good defensive postseason in 3 years now.

    Simmons must be kept at all costs still, even with the addition of Hanga tbh. Those first 2 years will be bargains.

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    Probably means they expect Simmons to be priced out of their range..And knowing Pop's "more than just basketball" ethos, they will tell him to go get the money considering where he comes from..
    I know guys made fun of my comments but to me it signals that Manu is likely retiring.... could be wrong bc not even Manu has made his own mind, but Spurs are getting ready.

    Also I expect JSimms back Unless Spurs land a big ticket FA.

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    This was already posted in Thinktank, but I know most of the posters don't go downstairs, so enjoy.

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    Green slurpers are on their rag, I see.

    Obviously D-League is a better shooter. Green is a 32-37 3p% shooter nowadays. Hanga was at 30% in a euro 3pt line. Otoh Hanga can do other stuff which D-League just can't.

    Defensively RIGHT NOW the pecking order of our wings would be Leonard-Simmons-Hanga-Green. You can argue with this if you disagree. Simmons had a masterpiece of a defensive job these playoffs being the primary defender on Harden and Klay. Danny hasn't had a good defensive postseason in 3 years now.

    Simmons must be kept at all costs still, even with the addition of Hanga tbh. Those first 2 years will be bargains.
    I just don't see what the big deal on his 3pt percentage is..I mean Simmons isn't a great 3 point shooter either but he's worked out just fine.

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    With Hanga coming over, I think the danny green spurs era is over.

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    Xellos is all about counting stats and not situational. Green isn't in the game to drive to the basket, and three point shooters rarely get fouled.




    Green has the top block percentage of any guard in NBA history. Yeah, that's right.

    Hanga has played zero games in the NBA so his stats may not translate to the NBA. I'm sure drawing and ones is harder in the NBA than it is in Europe. Though international game is less minutes.

    Green's elite offensive skill works when surrounded by certain players (guys who need ball in their hands) as it creates gravity away from them. If you had Hanga or Simmons or whoever, you could switch off everyone behind the line and pack the paint.

    Hanga has been a nice defender in Europe and I hope it translates to the NBA and he's not a liability on offense. Green is already a near All Defense team guy.
    Everyone hopes it will translate. If his game does indeed translate to the NBA, then he will be a more effective player than Green is. There is more than one solution to attacking a team that packs the paint. 1 is to have a lot of shooters. The second is to attack before the defense can set. Hanga is a superior transition threat. If Green rebounds the ball, then what happens. He passes the ball to a better ball handler and cannot really push the pace. If Hanga rebounds the ball, he has the ability to keep the ball and create in transition either for himself or for someone else. For the past few years I have been screaming for Green to improve his drive and finishing ability in traffic. If he just did this, I wouldn't have a problem. He just isn't that kind of player. To resolve this issue, the Spurs need a player that can knock down an open 3 and attack the closeout with enough court vision to find the open man once the defense breaks down.

    Also, if Hanga does attack with the opposing team packing the paint, then that means that multiple players will be required to stop him inside the paint. If multiple players are required that means that someone is open and the defense will be scrambled trying to rotate. This is where Hanga and his passing will come into play.

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    With Hanga coming over, I think the danny green spurs era is over.
    One can only hope. If your only offensive weapon is your 3pt shot, and it's regressed to average - below average... you've got to go.

    2015 playoffs: 30.0 3P%
    2016 season: 33.2 3P%
    2017 season: 37.9 3P% (33.8 3P% this calendar year)
    2017 playoffs 34.2 3P%

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    With Hanga coming over, I think the danny green spurs era is over.
    You don't get rid of a starter for a min. Now if Hanga comes over and shows he can play at the NBA level, Danny could be part of a mid-season trade.

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    You don't get rid of a starter for a min. Now if Hanga comes over and shows he can play at the NBA level, Danny could be part of a mid-season trade.
    I know you hate speculating about this but what if Green is the odd man out in CP3 deal...who's the starting SG and potential rotation?

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    You don't get rid of a starter for a min. Now if Hanga comes over and shows he can play at the NBA level, Danny could be part of a mid-season trade.
    This is definitely more realistic. Green will have his spot legitimately threatened. It may light the fire under him again if Simmons hasn't done so already.

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    I know you hate speculating about this but what if Green is the odd man out in CP3 deal...who's the starting SG and potential rotation?
    I can't imagine that the Spurs don't go into next season with neither Danny nor Jon starting.

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    One can only hope. If your only offensive weapon is your 3pt shot, and it's regressed to average - below average... you've got to go.

    2015 playoffs: 30.0 3P%
    2016 season: 33.2 3P%
    2017 season: 37.9 3P% (33.8 3P% this calendar year)
    2017 playoffs 34.2 3P%

    I want best for the Spurs and not a "fan" of any particular player...but this post speaks wonders to me. Danny is an extremely limited offensive player as we know...

    You can't ignore those #'s. Those are terrible for a "specialist" who gets the most open look 3's on the team by a long shot..he's supposed to be one of the best shooters on our team or league and it's been disappointing..

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    You don't get rid of a starter for a min. Now if Hanga comes over and shows he can play at the NBA level, Danny could be part of a mid-season trade.
    Yea but in this scenario, Simmons is kept and is the starting SG

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    Yea but in this scenario, Simmons is kept and is the starting SG
    Which scenario? Not the one where Hanga comes over. That has nothing to do with Green and everything to do with him being an FA, him wanting to come over and the Spurs having a roster spot. I think it's possible that Simmons would be kept to be the starter over Green, but I think it's incredibly unlikely.

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    This is definitely more realistic. Green will have his spot legitimately threatened. It may light the fire under him again if Simmons hasn't done so already.
    Too late for this..... Danny has an affordable contract that should be easily moved. Tyreke Evans may be an answer for our roster.

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    Which scenario? Not the one where Hanga comes over. That has nothing to do with Green and everything to do with him being an FA, him wanting to come over and the Spurs having a roster spot. I think it's possible that Simmons would be kept to be the starter over Green, but I think it's incredibly unlikely.
    The scenario where green is shipped out to sign CP.

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    The scenario where green is shipped out to sign CP.
    Where'd that scenario come form?

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    I hope Hanga enjoys his time in Austin because that's the only Spurs uniform he'll ever don.

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    Where'd that scenario come form?
    Spurs would need to move some contracts to make room.

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    Spurs would need to move some contracts to make room.
    You'd think they'd move a PG instead if they're going to sign one.

    Look, I'm not going to say Green would never be traded away to make room. I think PATFO told him that he'd be moved if Durant had agreed to come over last summer. But I also don't think they'll ignore Pau and Parker if looking to add Paul. For all this loyalty talk, it's completely dissonant with a pursuit of any outside free agent. If Tony is not moveable, then Paul isn't coming, as far as I see.

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    Sickening the disrespect for Green Ranger in this thread.

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