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    then aren't u better off going to into the private sector like tutoring? that's also good money, see a lot of t hem small businesses opening up with afterschool programs like tutoring and ...get paid good money unless ur tutoring ppl at home receiving cash in hand...

    just like uni lecturers who get paid by contract instead of being a full time employee of the university, 200-300bucks per class lesson, but no other incentives compared to full time teachers...not bad just to stand up and talk to students, whether they understand it or not is up to the student
    My friend, you are lucky I am here to set you straight since I understand the tutoring business really well. If you're actually looking for a career, teaching is still the way to go. These companies provide no health insurance or anything and you're out of luck during slow periods, summer breaks, etc unless you're like the top tutor at these locations. They're very good part time jobs and require no grading papers which is a plus. You have to understand too that tutors usually get paid a fraction of what they'll charge the parents. It's a great job if you're in between jobs or in college since you'll get paid pretty well hourly without having to work full time but it's not a career.

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    Mark Celibate When I say calc vs stats I don't mean either are hard... give me algebraic derivatives and integrals all day, business-y calc problems etc... just keep the sin/cos/csc/tan crap the away from me. I don't do shapes or geometry, that . And no proofs, that's rubbish.

    ???

    brah, trig isall over Calculus. Algebraic derivatives are like the first and easiest ones you learn? How can you say Calculus isn't hard when you say you only like the easy part of it?

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    My friend, you are lucky I am here to set you straight since I understand the tutoring business really well. If you're actually looking for a career, teaching is still the way to go. These companies provide no health insurance or anything and you're out of luck during slow periods, summer breaks, etc unless you're like the top tutor at these locations. They're very good part time jobs and require no grading papers which is a plus. You have to understand too that tutors usually get paid a fraction of what they'll charge the parents. It's a great job if you're in between jobs or in college since you'll get paid pretty well hourly without having to work full time but it's not a career.
    It's also a great after school job for a math teacher who doesn't have obligations after school, such as clubs, coaching etc. If the school requires you do classroom tutoring, you can always do it before school 2-3 days a week. But yes as a primary private tutoring employment sucks. As you said the tutors make a smallish fraction of the tutoring tuition at those little places so it's best if you start the tutoring business venture yourself.

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    ???

    brah, trig isall over Calculus. Algebraic derivatives are like the first and easiest ones you learn? How can you say Calculus isn't hard when you say you only like the easy part of it?
    That's why I didn't take Calc III, Multivariate Calc, Linear Algebra, Diff Eq's in college.

    I took the professors who taught everything to do with calc (including advanced concepts like implicit diff, u-subs ution) and a bunch of problems involving the fundamentals like rate of change, fundamental theorem of calc with definite integrals, etc... EXCEPT trig. Just literally calculus minus trig. That's all.

    The only test I ever failed, in any subject, at any level (grade school thru college), in my life... was in 11th grade Pre-AP Pre Calc in mid November when we had an exam of nothing but trig iden y proofs. All that +1, function squared theta, even-odd angles, rule of add/subtract/divide stuff... with no cheat/formula sheet... that really shot my brain like nothing else had ever. I ended up with a headache and a 54% on that test. I believe that was the one she dropped that cycle.

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    That's why I didn't take Calc III, Multivariate Calc, Linear Algebra, Diff Eq's in college.

    I took the professors who taught everything to do with calc (including advanced concepts like implicit diff, u-subs ution) and a bunch of problems involving the fundamentals like rate of change, fundamental theorem of calc with definite integrals, etc... EXCEPT trig. Just literally calculus minus trig. That's all.

    The only test I ever failed, in any subject, at any level (grade school thru college), in my life... was in 11th grade Pre-AP Pre Calc in mid November when we had an exam of nothing but trig iden y proofs. All that +1, function squared theta, even-odd angles, rule of add/subtract/divide stuff... with no cheat/formula sheet... that really shot my brain like nothing else had ever. I ended up with a headache and a 54% on that test. I believe that was the one she dropped that cycle.
    oh tbh, I thought you were a CS major since I know those guys have to take Calc/Linear Algebra/Diff Eq trifecta as I did.

    yeah those double angle formula, sum/difference stuff you basically have to memorize at that level which is a pain. I'm not one of those "Oh, why didn't you just derive all the formulas from scratch??" autists who expects you to actually do all that in 11th grade.

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    oh tbh, I thought you were a CS major since I know those guys have to take Calc/Linear Algebra/Diff Eq trifecta as I did.

    yeah those double angle formula, sum/difference stuff you basically have to memorize at that level which is a pain. I'm not one of those "Oh, why didn't you just derive all the formulas from scratch??" autists who expects you to actually do all that in 11th grade.
    Business Analytics & IT major. Took the easy way out. No physics, either. Like I said, I can do calculus, just without the trig part. And I do know a few basic things, like the derivative of sin is cos, and the derivative of cos is -sin.

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    man... its been about 6-7 years since i took calc series. i barely remember , though i distinctly recall hating calc 2 with all the series/sequences. actually found multivariable to be easier

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    man... its been about 6-7 years since i took calc series. i barely remember , though i distinctly recall hating calc 2 with all the series/sequences. actually found multivariable to be easier
    The Riemann sums? I thought that was a calc 1 concept, I had it in my calc 1 class right at the same time my teacher was getting into definite integrals.

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    man... its been about 6-7 years since i took calc series. i barely remember , though i distinctly recall hating calc 2 with all the series/sequences. actually found multivariable to be easier
    probably because it's just a condensed version of 1 and 2 extended to multiple variables. so there's a lot of lessons that are repe ive/trivial. however, the proofs and trying to imagine some of the three dimensional concepts like flux, binormal vectors, and triple integrals were serious business for brainlets like myself

    The Riemann sums? I thought that was a calc 1 concept, I had it in my calc 1 class right at the same time my teacher was getting into definite integrals.
    He's not talking about Riemann sums. That's basically setting up what a definite integral is related to area under a curve which is first seen in Calculus I. They're used a lot as well in a calc-based Physics course when deriving formulas of Work, Moment of Inertia, Center of Mass etc

    he's talking about the taylor/maclaurin series where you turn any function into a polynomial that goes on indefinitely. Like, if you wanted to approximate what cos(4) is, you can just make a maclaurin polynomial that goes long enough and do it all by hand.

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    probably because it's just a condensed version of 1 and 2 extended to multiple variables. so there's a lot of lessons that are repe ive/trivial. however, the proofs and trying to imagine some of the three dimensional concepts like flux, binormal vectors, and triple integrals were serious business for brainlets like myself
    I really don't see the point of that stuff. Is it even practical to the real world?

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    probably because it's just a condensed version of 1 and 2 extended to multiple variables. so there's a lot of lessons that are repe ive/trivial. however, the proofs and trying to imagine some of the three dimensional concepts like flux, binormal vectors, and triple integrals were serious business for brainlets like myself
    yeah, a lot of it felt oddly simple. i originally had to take linear algebra and diff/eq, but i changed my major from chem to biochem and got to avoid anything past calc 3.

    calc 1 was annoying since i took ap calc (AB, not BC) in high school and scored a 4 on the exam, and for science majors at ucla, they only gave credit if you scored a 5 on AB (4 would have been acceptable on BC). so i ended up taking that my first quarter at ucla, and finished math reqs all in freshman year. but i dont remember tbh, outside of a few uses in physics, i never really had to apply much of it in other classes, so its basically been 7 years since i've looked at anything

    used to love math mostly because i was good with numbers, and algebra always was intuitive to me... but i stopped caring for it around calc
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    I really don't see the point of that stuff. Is it even practical to the real world?
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    yeah, a lot of it felt oddly simple. i originally had to take linear algebra and diff/eq, but i changed my major from chem to biochem and got to avoid anything past calc 3.

    calc 1 was annoying since i took ap calc (AB, not BC) in high school and scored a 4 on the exam, and for science majors at ucla, they only gave credit if you scored a 5 on AB (4 would have been acceptable on BC). so i ended up taking that my first quarter at ucla, and finished math reqs all in freshman year. but i dont remember tbh, outside of a few uses in physics, i never really had to apply much of it in other classes, so its basically been 7 years since i've looked at anything

    used to love math mostly because i was good with numbers, and algebra always was intuitive to me... but i stopped caring for it around calc
    even though you'll soon be making shekels as a lawyer I feel as if you would've been pretty successful as an engineer if you had to take more. probably would've been more interesting if you're degree actually applied it

    tbh once I got to the end of Diff Eq and Linear Algebra I started getting a little lost too so that's pretty much my limit. baseline bum, pgardn, Agloco (a few others I'm probably missing) are the real heavy hitters on this site with the math stuff. I'd love to pick it back up and learn more but I've spent the past year or so mainly focused on improving my programming skillz.

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    even though you'll soon be making shekels as a lawyer I feel as if you would've been pretty successful as an engineer if you had to take more. probably would've been more interesting if you're degree actually applied it

    tbh once I got to the end of Diff Eq and Linear Algebra I started getting a little lost too so that's pretty much my limit. baseline bum, pgardn, Agloco (a few others I'm probably missing) are the real heavy hitters on this site with the math stuff. I'd love to pick it back up and learn more but I've spent the past year or so mainly focused on improving my programming skillz.
    maybe. doesn't really help that around my 2nd/3rd year i decided i wasn't going to pursue a career in STEM, so i was basically on autopilot beyond that, which hurt my gpa. you cant really half-ass ur way through biochem

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    I need you people to elevate your game, you're boring as .

    I''ll be back tomorrow, I better see something better than this silly , grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr~~~~~~~~

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    I need you people to elevate your game, you're boring as .

    I''ll be back tomorrow, I better see something better than this silly , grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr~~~~~~~~
    Yeah agreed living vicariously through black men who run really fast as a subconscious front for being a cuckold is much more interesting tbh.

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    Yeah agreed living vicariously through black men who run really fast as a subconscious front for being a cuckold is much more interesting tbh.
    Avante is the guy behind the Coagula project from Get Out... he'd do anything to be a 25 year old black guy who runs a 4.2 40

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    maybe. doesn't really help that around my 2nd/3rd year i decided i wasn't going to pursue a career in STEM, so i was basically on autopilot beyond that, which hurt my gpa. you cant really half-ass ur way through biochem
    That's true... at UNT, O-Chem was either... learn it all, work your ass off and make an "A" or... half ass it and struggle to pass. Not a whole lot of grades in the 75-90 range.

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    some maths subjects are a waste of time if u don't plan on working in that field that requires u to work it out

    there are guys who are dumbkents at school, who only do basic maths like calculating perimeter/shapes and , yet they drop out of high school or finish yr12, go do some technical course like a trademans/carpentry...these guys were more hands on approach, they weren't interested in school

    even some clowns I know became electricians...blue collar workers earn a lot of money if they were self employed the day they finish their training, 1st year fulltime employed vs some clown still in university, by the time that clown graduates and gets a entry level job, the blue collar job guy is probably close to 6 figures annual salary...

    stats and if ur interested in a office job number crunching
    trigonometry , algebra ...im not an engineer or never interested in that , but if u understand that u can move into programming since its all abou how much u can remember right?

    some fkn bookworks don't do in class, yet rock up into class/exams and just kill the papers...cause they were taught how to memorise 1 page, let alone a whole textbook or t hat terms work load...its fcked up man...u just cant compete against those ppl who have that talent who can memorise a text book

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    some maths subjects are a waste of time if u don't plan on working in that field that requires u to work it out

    there are guys who are dumbkents at school, who only do basic maths like calculating perimeter/shapes and , yet they drop out of high school or finish yr12, go do some technical course like a trademans/carpentry...these guys were more hands on approach, they weren't interested in school

    even some clowns I know became electricians...blue collar workers earn a lot of money if they were self employed the day they finish their training, 1st year fulltime employed vs some clown still in university, by the time that clown graduates and gets a entry level job, the blue collar job guy is probably close to 6 figures annual salary...

    stats and if ur interested in a office job number crunching
    trigonometry , algebra ...im not an engineer or never interested in that , but if u understand that u can move into programming since its all abou how much u can remember right?

    some fkn bookworks don't do in class, yet rock up into class/exams and just kill the papers...cause they were taught how to memorise 1 page, let alone a whole textbook or t hat terms work load...its fcked up man...u just cant compete against those ppl who have that talent who can memorise a text book
    The problem is, it's almost never salary. It's 1099 which means the IRS taxes the pants off you. And usually that kind of money is only made in electrics, which often leads to electrocution and death of the electrician, so it's very risky.

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    Yeah agreed living vicariously through black men who run really fast as a subconscious front for being a cuckold is much more interesting tbh.
    Dude, here are the fastest..WHITE..American sprinters by school in Cali (can do this for every school), ok? I follow sprinting not white/black, ok little man?

    USC..Charles Paddock, Frank Wykoff, Mel Patton...all WR holders. Now add...Fred Kuller, Payton Jordan.
    UCLA..Tom Jones NCAA 20m champ
    Cal..Hal Davis...fastest man in the world early 40's. George Anderson WR holder.
    Fresno State...Mike Agostini WR holder (a white car from Trinidad) Darel Newman...the only white sprinter to beat Bob Hayes, he did it in a 60.
    Stanford...Larry Questad NCAA champ, Clyde Jefferys WR holder
    San Diego State...Marty Kruelee, there was a time his 10.18 was the paleface record.

    Wanna see me do that for Texas?


    So you were wrong.

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    Dude, here are the fastest..WHITE..American sprinters by school in Cali (can do this for every school), ok? I follow sprinting not white/black, ok little man?

    USC..Charles Paddock, Frank Wykoff, Mel Patton...all WR holders. Now add...Fred Kuller, Payton Jordan.
    UCLA..Tom Jones NCAA 20m champ
    Cal..Hal Davis...fastest man in the world early 40's. George Anderson WR holder.
    Fresno State...Mike Agostini WR holder (a white car from Trinidad) Darel Newman...the only white sprinter to beat Bob Hayes, he did it in a 60.
    Stanford...Larry Questad NCAA champ, Clyde Jefferys WR holder
    San Diego State...Marty Kruelee, there was a time his 10.18 was the paleface record.

    Wanna see me do that for Texas?


    So you were wrong.
    What about anywhere in the country... Year 2000 and beyond? whites?

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    What about anywhere in the country... Year 2000 and beyond? whites?
    Oklahoma States John Teeters is the fastest white American with his 10.00, he ran that last season. He's a big guy and has football written all over him but he doesn't play.

    Since 2000 he really is the only "National Class" white American 100m cat.

    Whites can sprint, the thing is they just can't sprint that sub 9.90 stuff, that is the black world.

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    Oklahoma States John Teeters is the fastest white American with his 10.00, he ran that last season. He's a big guy and has football written all over him but he doesn't play.

    Since 2000 he really is the only "National Class" white American 100m cat.

    Whites can sprint, the thing is they just can't sprint that sub 9.90 stuff, that is the black world.
    Whites are great at the 20 yard shuttle and cross country though.

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    Whites are great at the 20 yard shuttle and cross country though.
    Ok.

    We have to go all the way back to 1964 and Dartmouths Gerry Ashworth to find a white sprinter on a USA Olympic 4x1 team. There are no white running backs who belong with....

    Barry Sanders
    Eric erson
    O.J.Simpson
    Curtis ey
    Adrian Peterson
    Tony Dorsett
    Bo Jackson
    Herschel Walker
    Jamaal Charles
    Chris Johnson
    Joe Delaney
    Napolean Kaufman
    Justin Fargas
    Michael Bennett

    ...not even close.

    McCaffreys grandpa Dave Sime is still one of the two/three fastest white Americans ever, he last ran in 1960.

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