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    Don't know why people say he's years away. He was a senior. He should be ready now, I mean isn't that why you select a senior in the first place. And you kinda know what you get. He isn't some snot nosed kid. He should have a little more leeway than a moldable player that is still gum shoed.

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    It's just Hart can't run the point so I understand why PATFO may of went this route. Hart will be a better defender but I think White is a better all around player imo


    Is that what they thought about Brogdon?

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    Don't think he's a total scrub, but I'm skeptical he'll be more than a shorter Fathead (just okay at everything, great at nothing).

    If we were going for the Swiss Army knife type guard, I think the Spurs should've went with Hart.
    A shorter fathead is not an NBA level player tbh. It's kyles size, his length, and positional versatility, on tp of rebounding and defense + bbiq that have gotten him playing time. Kyle measuring 6'4 or 6'5 wouldn't be an NBA level player.

    bt the way Kyle was excellent in college (and in all lower leagues he's played at as everyone knows)...

    jury still out on white. He's got to find his own thing

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    I am gonna coattail raybies and BatManu20 on this one. He will be a nice rotation player, if not a starter, within a couple of seasons.

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    But that's exactly what everyone is saying White brings.

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    Is that what they thought about Brogdon?
    Malcolm was a point in college. Hart was a 2 who playmaked...

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    Staked.

    As I said last night, I like this kid. He's got some flare.


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    Malcolm was a point in college. Hart was a 2 who playmaked...
    And now Malcolm is playmaking at both positions depending on the unit on the floor.

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    Is that what they thought about Brogdon?
    Spurs definitely whiffed on Brogdon, and he was dying to be a Spur. And his resume was up there with the Admiral's as far as what the Spurs want in terms of character. He can definitely play either guard spot. The Spurs just blew it, and I will likely never get over that. He and Murray would have developed into an incredible backcourt, both being very good combo types with complementary skills.

    Hart is a homeless man's Brogdon.

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    Yeah. Let's hope so.

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    Malcolm was a point in college. Hart was a 2 who playmaked...
    Not really. London Perrantes was the designated PG at UVa, but in truth, they were both combo types.

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    Spurs definitely whiffed on Brogdon, and he was dying to be a Spur. And his resume was up there with the Admiral's as far as what the Spurs want in terms of character. He can definitely play either guard spot. The Spurs just blew it, and I will likely never get over that. He and Murray would have developed into an incredible backcourt, both being very good combo types with complementary skills.

    Hart is a homeless man's Brogdon.
    I get why they did it though, they just went for upside really. They were going for the home run and Brogdan was ready to play. He's probably a backup guard on a championship caliber team. But he's kind of in the mold of Beverly and Delevadova, both of whom were second round picks I believe. We'll see if he can take it to the next level or be an elite role player but I doubt he has much upside left.

    As for Murray, he has a much higher ceiling. Murray can theoretically get you a basket if you need one, and I mean eventually. I believe when Murray is farther along you can play him in the pick and roll or iso. He could probably take any point to the rack in an iso right now except Beverly lol and if they switch on the pick, him on a big would death. He's got elite physical tools, with size and length, and can rebound. He just really needs to develop his playmaking skills.

    But yeah watching Brogdan in the playoffs hurt but just give it time.

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    I'm not quite as negative today as I was last night. He has the potential to be a valuable backup combo guard.

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    I get why they did it though, they just went for upside really. They were going for the home run and Brogdan was ready to play. He's probably a backup guard on a championship caliber team. But he's kind of in the mold of Beverly and Delevadova, both of whom were second round picks I believe. We'll see if he can take it to the next level or be an elite role player but I doubt he has much upside left.

    As for Murray, he has a much higher ceiling. Murray can theoretically get you a basket if you need one, and I mean eventually. I believe when Murray is farther along you can play him in the pick and roll or iso. He could probably take any point to the rack in an iso right now except Beverly lol and if they switch on the pick, him on a big would death. He's got elite physical tools, with size and length, and can rebound. He just really needs to develop his playmaking skills.

    But yeah watching Brogdan in the playoffs hurt but just give it time.
    Perhaps I wasn't clear. I love Dijon even though I really wanted Brogdon. (And I agree - Dijon has much more upside.) BUT, Brogdon didn't go until the second round. I wanted the Spurs to buy a pick or trade a future pick to pick him up, TOO.

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    Solid bench player. Not great at one thing but does a little of everything.

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    A year or two will have Spurstalk fans saying I knew he was going to a good pick/ I knew he was going to suck. Stake your claim for future bookmarking.
    We already have some who've made it clear what they expect. I'm in the good pick camp. George Hill level. Not that level D but compensating with better play making and shooting from the get go.
    It's just going to be a wild ass guess right now either way. So whatever you do two or three years from now you had no idea.

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    Not as impressive to me bc he's old frankly. His age at the ncaa level does say a lot about his level of experience vs his compe ion etc... so I am not getting blown away by his stats. Again didn't watch him so I don't really know him but he appears solid and a good shooter so I am very satisfied that he fulfills a need.
    He's only had one year at that level. Only other guard in the draft to accomplish that in the same conference went #1.


    Age has more to do with health, than ability. I know you were on the wrong side of the simmons argument quite a few times over age.There were quite a few young guys spurfan wanted that no one remembers from the past couple drafts.

    Brogdan was probably the biggest miss. And hes the oldest of his draft.. age is just a number homie.

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    Solid bench player. Not great at one thing but does a little of everything.
    Actually, I think the Spurs are betting that he can do one thing really well -- shoot NBA threes.

    This pick doesn't make sense unless the Spurs think White's a legitimate gunner.

    He'll rise or fall on his outside shooting.

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    He's also good at getting to the line.

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    I look forward to seeing Blossomgame work in the Summer League.

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    Perhaps I wasn't clear. I love Dijon even though I really wanted Brogdon. (And I agree - Dijon has much more upside.) BUT, Brogdon didn't go until the second round. I wanted the Spurs to buy a pick or trade a future pick to pick him up, TOO.
    When have the Spurs ever bought picks?

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    When have the Spurs ever bought picks?
    "...or trade a future pick..." But you are right; it might not have been an extremely realistic expectation. But I wonder if you read the many comments he made about admiring the Spurs and wanting to be a Spur or my pre-draft post of the Charlottesville newspaper article about Brogdon? He was just a perfect Spur. But no matter; it is all history at this point.

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    Actually, I think the Spurs are betting that he can do one thing really well -- shoot NBA threes.

    This pick doesn't make sense unless the Spurs think White's a legitimate gunner.

    He'll rise or fall on his outside shooting.
    That's fair. Plus RC mentioned his defense.

    I only meant I see him providing a little of everything. Not just wow in one or two areas.

    Not the pick I was expecting but there's nothing to hate about it. I'm rooting for him.

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    Midget who will have trouble fighting through screens and will always lose his man.

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    TBH I don't see a need for him when we already have Forbes who hardly plays already.

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