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    There's no way CP3 could know this. I'm having a hard time believing that it's a fact that Melo will be bought out by New York after Phil's firing. PG on the other hand....
    Sure there is. Just like CP3 knew he was going to Houston 2 weeks ago. There's a third "star" going to HOU, Melo or PG. Only way it makes sense choosing HOU over SA.

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    Their precious "culture" and antiquated roster/style cost them not only Paul, but will cost them any available superstar or star in the future. They're already up against it in a non destination city and this militaristic, holier than though, we don't play the behind the scenes schmooze fest game, only exacerbates matters. Leonard and Pop, in particular, better start playing it, or they can watch more teams pass them by, while clinging to hopes that Murray turns into a star and they can attract some unicorn down the line.

    It's also the latest indication that, as much as most everyone claims to respect them, they don't really want to play for them. They got Aldridge, a second tier star, out of cir stance and even then, he had to be talked out of the irrelevant Suns. They had a greater need for Paul and just closed out Rockets sans Leonard and Parker and he still choose them. That speaks volumes.
    Totally agree. I'm afraid Melo follows CP3, then LeBron next year. Yikes. I'm just hoping that Spurs stay compe ive to lure Anthony Davis. I'm really hoping he gets frustrated losing with Cousins and either one of them demands trade or walk the following year. In the meantime Aldridge can try to build his stock back. He has no choice if he wanted to get paid the next contract.

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    Can you explain to me how this "cost them Paul"? They were obviously his second choice based on several reports today - which means he had them ranked ahead of a bunch of other teams. The Spurs got an interview with Durant last summer.

    Seriously, you're all acting like we LOST an in bent star. Imagine being a Thunder fan, a Clippers fan, etc. Heck, the Lakers had Dwight walk years ago.

    Everyone shut up and wait until FA shakes out, then come complain if things look dire. Spurs have a top 5 player in the league without question, and probably a top 3.
    I just did. This league has devolved into a caricature of high-school. Even though Leonard is a top 3 player, he's not part of the "in crowd", he has little to no relationship with the majority who are and damn sure doesn't hold sway with them. You've got to play the game within' the game to have a chance at players of this caliber. Having a modern roster would help too. Antiquated bigs like Aldridge and Gasol have no appeal to superstar and star perimeter players.

    Spurs got a token, pseudo respect interview with Durant; he was never considering them.

    "We" lost our only chance to have a shot at a championship anytime soon. I like Hill, but he's not changing their now 2nd round ceiling and there is no game changing free agent on the horizon anytime soon (at least of which they'd have the balls to take a risk on) nor do they have the assets to trade for the next out one who wants out . . . so they're stuck.

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    Three years removed from a le and still riding the tailwinds of one of the best runs in NBA history.

    Being a Spurs fan is so ing hard.

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    I just did. This league has devolved into a caricature of high-school. Even though Leonard is a top 3 player, he's not part of the in crowd. He has little to no relationship with the majority who are and damn sure doesn't hold sway with them. You've got to play the game within' the game to have a chance at players of this caliber. Having a modern roster would help too. Antiquated bigs like Aldridge and Gasol have no appeal to superstar and star perimeter players.

    Spurs got a token, pseudo respect interview with Durant; he was never considering them.

    "We" lost our only chance to have a shot at a championship anytime soon. I like Hill, but he's not changing their now 2nd round ceiling and there is no game changing free agent on the horizon anytime soon (at least of which they'd have the balls to take a risk on) nor do they have the assets to trade for the next out one who wants out . . . so they're stuck.
    They certainly do look stuck right now if they can't make any win now moves. Guess the best we can hope for is Murray, Fathead, Fathead Jr, Forbes becoming stars, and TP coming back "better than ever".

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    astute posters have been saying this for several years now, tbh. this ain't the NFL, respectable black american stars will not stand being buggy whipped by arrogant white coaches or executives anymore. thanks to LeKing the players realized the leverage they have over these organizations who do not compensate the elite echelon talent with market value. mild mannered star talents with non-confrontational tendencies like kiwi are extremely rare and you can't rely on drafting them anymore. with the climate these days Tim would have left for Orlando in free agency

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    Lol just opened a thread on roughly the same topic ..Didn't see TD21 has already beat me to it ....

    As much as I hate to admit it, the new executive game in this league has seemingly passed PATFO by..

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    spurfan laughs at Draymond for begging even though it has already paid off with a ring and probably will another two times.

    spurfan has to pretend it's a bad thing since Kiwi will not talk to other players tbh

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    Three years removed from a le and still riding the tailwinds of one of the best runs in NBA history.

    Being a Spurs fan is so ing hard.
    We've won lots, so we should be content with fools gold regular seasons now. Who cares if we had a top 3 team and have a top 3 player? A loser mentality, if I ever saw one.

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    spurs are in trouble.

    what few teams that would take la have the leverage. and the spurs can't let go of parker. it's a mess.

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    Three years removed from a le and still riding the tailwinds of one of the best runs in NBA history.

    Being a Spurs fan is so ing hard.
    Plus a WCF appearance last year, with a roster no one believed in, and it took a Kawhi injury to knock us out.

    It's silly man

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    It's certainly true, as we've been discussing..

    Old people don't like hearing it, but this is the new wave in the NBA..you need to network, nowadays, personal connections matter..sometimes you need to suck a little to attract FAs, tbh..

    Competing teams either have popular players attracting their peers, or in the Warriors case, both popular players and a front office that is light years ahead of their compe ion..

    The league can pass you by before you even realize it..look at the pathetic Lakers..

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    reports were that the spurs weren't that interested because they already have an aging PG... chris paul didn't sign with the rockets because kawhi isn't social.

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    spurs have done fairly well in recent years in the offseasons with limited ability to make moves....they always manage to pull some pieces together and make it work, give some time for the FA period to play out at least for 's sake

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    We've won lots, so we should be content with fools gold regular seasons now. Who cares if we had a top 3 team and have a top 3 player? A loser mentality, if I ever saw one.
    I like you TD 21, my man, but I'll trust Pop and the front office and their "antiquated" process before a bunch of armchair coaches and GMs on the internet. It's brought proven results. Only one team has won as many les as the Spurs in the last 20 years, and they had prime Kobe Bryant being carried by dominant big men.

    If you really think that they are content with just pissing into the wind during Kawhi's tenure, maybe you are the one who needs to re-evaluate their approach.

    I could see a post like this on a Philly forum or, , even a Miami forum...but fans from literally every team in the league would be rolling their eyes if they saw you crying into your beer like this.

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    Spurs fans meltdown most entertaining. They want to suck now.

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    Morey is making moves now to put HOU above SA on paper. Even so, I have almost complete confidence that the Spurs will be the better team. I have my problems with Pop and even Kawhi, but I don't think they did anything wrong here.
    Problems with Kawhi?? For what? He does everything. He plays on the ball, off the ball, D, rebounds, shoots 3s, passes, drives, posts up, clutch. What is missing?

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    Problems with Kawhi?? For what? He does everything. He plays on the ball, off the ball, D, rebounds, shoots 3s, passes, drives, posts up, clutch. What is missing?
    He should make friends so he can compete for a le.

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    Getting with the times is paying $30 million + to a 32 year old who has never been to the conference finals and gets hurt because of his coach's relationship with his son?

    They're already dealing with one mental midget who has compromised the Spurs culture the last thing this organization needs is another head case.

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    I'll trust Pop and the front office and their "antiquated" process before a bunch of armchair coaches and GMs on the internet.
    what moves can the spurs even make to stay relevant?

    resign gasol, manu, spend money on simmons?

    how do you fill out the rest of the frontcourt?

    how do you address the PG situation?

    spurs trading green instead of parker is about as backwards as it gets and it seems more likely that that would happen than tony getting the boot.

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    I like you TD 21, my man, but I'll trust Pop and the front office and their "antiquated" process before a bunch of armchair coaches and GMs on the internet. It's brought proven results. Only one team has won as many les as the Spurs in the last 20 years, and they had prime Kobe Bryant being carried by dominant big men.

    If you really think that they are content with just pissing into the wind during Kawhi's tenure, maybe you are the one who needs to re-evaluate their approach.

    I could see a post like this on a Philly forum or, , even a Miami forum...but fans from literally every team in the league would be rolling their eyes if they saw you crying into your beer like this.
    It's not opinion; it's fact, that the league has changed. I don't like it anymore than most, but it's the reality. So they can either get with the times or continue to fall further behind.

    I didn't say they were content, but that's not enough and neither is their culture, past, superstar or coach/co-GM.

    Teams like those have been irrelevant though, which immediately disqualifies them from having a chance at marquee free agents. Spurs should be different.

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    what moves can the spurs even make to stay relevant?

    resign gasol, manu, spend money on simmons?

    how do you fill out the rest of the frontcourt?

    how do you address the PG situation?

    spurs trading green instead of parker is about as backwards as it gets and it seems more likely that that would happen than tony getting the boot.
    Well it's a good thing free agency starts in 3 days so that we can get some answers to those questions.

    As for the Parker situation...it is what it is. The Spurs have always been loyal to players who have been loyal to them, and that's why the are highly regarded around the league.

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    It's not opinion; it's fact, that the league has changed. I don't like it anymore than most, but it's the reality. So they can either get with the times or continue to fall further behind.

    I didn't say they were content, but that's not enough and neither is their culture, past, superstar or coach/co-GM.

    Teams like those have been irrelevant though, which immediately disqualifies them from having a chance at marquee free agents. Spurs should be different.
    Yep. Doing nothing or doing little means they are pissing away Kawhi's prime. Sucks to say, but it's true. The team as it is currently constructed had it's last chance last season. Instead, Kawhi went down, TP went down, Manu got another year older, Softus showed his true colors, and now we're here.

    Something needs to be done or we're back to the 2000-2002 Spurs - One world class player, and a bunch of scrubs with a second round ceiling.

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    what moves can the spurs even make to stay relevant?

    resign gasol, manu, spend money on simmons?

    how do you fill out the rest of the frontcourt?

    how do you address the PG situation?

    spurs trading green instead of parker is about as backwards as it gets and it seems more likely that that would happen than tony getting the boot.

    Everyone should log off until July 5. If nothing has happened by then, feel free to panic. The Spurs aren't airing their free agency plans before July 1. Not sure why this is so hard for everyone.

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    The Spurs have always been loyal to players who have been loyal to them, and that's why the are highly regarded around the league.
    too bad the spurs can't be as loyal to parker as parker was to brent barry.

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