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    Resign Simmons. Sign Evans and gay.

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    I wish. I keep waiting for their insane shooting percentages to crash to the ground. Problem is the league is pretty ty, the rules have been set to help them greatly, and they were a 73 win team before Durant ing decided to join them. They can paper over lots of problems.

    But their ownership may look at the tax bill in two or three years and go, "WTF??"
    The league was ty in 2001 when the Lakers won it all with such dominant ease and a core built for more les.They only won it (barley) 1 more time with that core. Their time is coming. They have 2 more years and then they implode. They won't be able to overcome it either.

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    Agree that this board is full of hysterical ninnies, but not that the game has passed them by. (If you mean the Spurs.) They got to the WCF and could have pulled some games off them if Kawhi hadn't gone down. And if Durant hadn't pulled one of the biggest pussy moves in sports history, the Spurs would be neck-and-neck as one of the top teams in the league still.

    This FO has always been cautious. Plus they are going to reward their big three especially after years of taking lower salaries. Tony Parker is never going to be dumped right after getting hurt, that's ridiculous. Yet the team won the FA sweepstakes two years ago with Aldridge and managed a big coup with Gasol last year. Those are still big wins.

    Next year they will face a big challenge in selling a boring, family-oriented city to max fee agents after 1) Aldridge didn't work out, and 2) Durant is still doing his pussy-ass thing in California and it won't matter for several more years.
    OMG, I can't believe I just read a level-headed reasoned response to this off-season. I agree about the challenge for next off-season. Hopefully they turn Aldridge into a longer-term solution during the season, so it's more than just Kawhi and Pop with half a foot out the door.

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    And don't cite the Patty Mills move(this will predictably be your move, along with getting even more emotional), I've been against it and didn't want him back, either..

    I'm strictly referring to the dozens of posters that expect stars to sign here and the Spurs to acquire stars with their poor assets..

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    Resign Simmons. Sign Evans and gay.
    I like the idea... if within the realm of possibility.... what about Gerald Green, Vince Carter and Beasley?

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    Good move for the Raps, since it's only 3 years..they weren't going to contend and it's way too difficult to tank in the terrible East, might as well stay relevant in a terrible conference with an ownership group that won't accept losing..they could also quickly fall off a cliff in TO with the Leafs surging if they became mediocre again, too difficult in this city..

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    Wait until they get eliminated from the playoffs. This is a 2 year window for the Warriors. Egos, age, tax, salary cap, nba catching up to them, etc will all hit. This is the start of their downfall. As I said before, this is a movie we have all seen and knows how it will end.
    Silver will rig whatever needs rigging in order to keep the Warriors cash cow going as long as possible. Watch him find a way to abolish the luxury tax right before the big bill comes due for GSW.

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    Ya, this is all emotion talking, as usual

    Bull , too..you spent months saying that they needed to sign Chris Paul and that should be their plan..that's fine, but he clearly never intended to join the Spurs..what else should they have done? You didn't like my idea of starting fresh, next year, either..so, what do you want? Your last post was all emotional, empty words, so which direction should they take? Kidnap the families of stars and force them to play in SA for their release?
    The guy obsessed with his image on basketball message boards is telling others they take this too seriously.

    Yeah, that would have been my first option. Failing that or an upgrade of any sort (Millsap to Aldridge, Hill to Green), I'd have rather they maximize '18 flexibility and go cheap with a Meeks and minimal veteran 3rd PG. Anything but a more expensive status quo. Got it or do I need to draw you a picture?

    You didn't have an idea and when I repeatedly asked for one, you either evaded it or responded with generalities.


    12.5 for patty is looking like a steal
    Is it? People get consumed with average annual value, but Nets supposedly had significant interest. How do we know their offer wasn't something like 3/$50M and Spurs just added a 4th year? Maybe it wasn't, but either way it doesn't make sense on a macro level, for reasons I explained above.

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    I'm not melting down re and my criticism has been aimed at their not playing high-school to give themselves their best chance with one of the cool kids and the inexplicable Mills re-signing. Obviously, there was nothing they could do about the star trades.

    Despite the fools gold regular seasons that continue to fool the apologists and casuals, this team isn't that good and I'd like to see them pick a clearly defined direction, one way or the other and not be content and waste Leonard's prime.

    At a played out shtick on 37 different accounts.
    Come on. We got to the wcf without our starting PG, and beat a very good rockets team. And we were all confident to beat the cavs. We cannot out talent Warriors. I do have issue with Gasol signing. But as long as it doesn't hurt our future. He is still probably the top 3 backup centers.

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    Good move for the Raps, since it's only 3 years..they weren't going to contend and it's way too difficult to tank in the terrible East, might as well stay relevant in a terrible conference with an ownership group that won't accept losing..they could also quickly fall off a cliff in TO with the Leafs surging if they became mediocre again, too difficult in this city..
    You live in Toronto? I heard it's an incredible city... Wifey and I talked about expanding our horizons and considering it a place to move to and live, but she's not too into cold weather.

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    The league was ty in 2001 when the Lakers won it all with such dominant ease and a core built for more les.They only won it (barley) 1 more time with that core. Their time is coming. They have 2 more years and then they implode. They won't be able to overcome it either.
    I think this era is precisely analogous to those years 2000-2002 or so when there was one dominant team and most of the league was terrible. There had been years of ty drafts and if you look at the last half dozen drafts at least they have been absolutely terrible. There are no good players coming into the league. The big free agent get this year was Jimmy Butler, a player who can't even get his team wins in a ty Eastern Conference and who would barely move the needle ten years ago.

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    I think this era is precisely analogous to those years 2000-2002 or so when there was one dominant team and most of the league was terrible. There had been years of ty drafts and if you look at the last half dozen drafts at least they have been absolutely terrible. There are no good players coming into the league. The big free agent get this year was Jimmy Butler, a player who can't even get his team wins in a ty Eastern Conference and who would barely move the needle ten years ago.
    The league really does need to contract. It'll never happen, but it really does. It would make the overall product so much better on several levels.
    Silver is too much of a puss to do much of anything and contracting teams probably means losing money and we can't have that.

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    The league really does need to contract. It'll never happen, but it really does. It would make the overall product so much better on several levels.
    Silver is too much of a puss to do much of anything and contracting teams probably means losing money and we can't have that.
    I don't think it needs to contract. It's been this big for years and has had good and exciting teams. It's just a ty era. I think there's a problem with how players are being developed in high school and college. Too many players coming into the league who will never learn how to play ball.

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    You live in Toronto? I heard it's an incredible city... Wifey and I talked about expanding our horizons and considering it a place to move to and live, but she's not too into cold weather.
    It's great if you're into big city lifestyle, but extremely expensive for housing(750 000 USD for an average or even below average house in the city)..otherwise, ya, entertaining, multicultural, live, etc..

    If you aren't completely against cold weather, it's actually not that bad, in that regard..it's far milder than the rest of the country outside of BC..if you're from Texas, it would probably be tough, though..we were getting -40C nights 2 winters ago..

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    from may:
    posted a few months ago that i think patty stays and simmons doesn't...
    wouldn't suprise me if simmons gets paid more than patty by another team.

    i'd definitely take him for what the spurs offered.

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    Porter got offered the Max by kings!

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    Why the teams like Toronto go 15 mil over tax ? For what ? They suck, 2nd round is their ceiling with or without overpaid Lowry, and shadyage spearthrower.

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    It's great if you're into big city lifestyle, but extremely expensive for housing(750 000 USD for an average or even below average house in the city)..otherwise, ya, entertaining, multicultural, live, etc..

    If you aren't completely against cold weather, it's actually not that bad, in that regard..it's far milder than the rest of the country outside of BC..if you're from Texas, it would probably be tough, though..we were getting -40C nights 2 winters ago..
    Ouch, I make decent money, but that's terrible house pricing... Better to just visit, I guess. Lol. Appreciate.

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    And now ing Wizards will go over the tax, for Otto Porter, because stupid ass GM over paid Ian Mahinmi last year. This is total bananas.

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    The league really does need to contract. It'll never happen, but it really does. It would make the overall product so much better on several levels.
    Silver is too much of a puss to do much of anything and contracting teams probably means losing money and we can't have that.
    Don't really have a problem with bottom feeders. I'd just prefer, come playoff time, that the top 16 teams make it to the playoffs so we don't have to deal with unwatchable Eastern Conference playoff series.

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    I think this era is precisely analogous to those years 2000-2002 or so when there was one dominant team and most of the league was terrible. There had been years of ty drafts and if you look at the last half dozen drafts at least they have been absolutely terrible. There are no good players coming into the league. The big free agent get this year was Jimmy Butler, a player who can't even get his team wins in a ty Eastern Conference and who would barely move the needle ten years ago.
    Been thinking the same thing re Butler. He's vastly overrated imo. Have to see what they do in Minny but I wouldn't be surprised to see them as a6-7 seed in a tougher west.

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    Porter got offered the Max by kings!
    Good. Hope they get him too. One less Simmons suitor. Called Wizards bluff, we'll see

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    I imagine the Spurs aren't pursuing players they don't feel will fit or are who aren't realistic. Only Iggy and Gay have been tied to the Spurs, and Woj said that Iggy's camp was pushing for the meeting between them.

    IMO this feels more like the Spurs acting deliberately with a clear plan, not them reacting to players avoiding them.
    That's almost worse in a way because the team is willing to lay all the pressure in Kawhi to singlehandedly carry the team to a championship. What if he gets injured again? It sounds like a much more dangerous plan than anything.

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    Don't really have a problem with bottom feeders. I'd just prefer, come playoff time, that the top 16 teams make it to the playoffs so we don't have to deal with unwatchable Eastern Conference playoff series.
    True, just end this conference BS when it comes to playoff seeding. That''s put some fear in a couple teams.

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    Porter got offered the Max by kings!

    i remember when some people thought kawhi wasn't worth the max

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