Official 2017 Offseason Thread

[Nathan89]

Simmons is a better piece now if we play small with Gay at the 4. He can take advantage of more spacing with his athleticism. Gay's passing allows him to cut off ball.

I hope Gay recovers well from his injury. Even little moves like this get me excited about the season. Especially because we may be playing much differently next year.

[Atl Spur]

Simmons is a better piece now if we play small with Gay at the 4. He can take advantage of more spacing with his athleticism. Gay's passing allows him to cut off ball.

I hope Gay recovers well from his injury. Even little moves like this get me excited about the season. Especially because we may be playing much differently next year.

It should😉 Pic and roll with him and Kawhi.......nasty

[MannyIsGod]

The Gay signing did give me the impression he took what was meant to be Simmons deal. .. I don't understand squat about the cap so I can be very wrong but it was the first thing that came to mind. Glad for J.Simms if he's getting paid elsewhere. I don't think I like Gay coming back from a torn Achilles over Simms but waiting to see what happens basically. Simmons still shopping himself around and Spurs got a guy they wanted for a similar offer than they had made on Simmons and this guy could have been gone by the time the dust settles on Simmons.

I'd take Gay with one leg as a higher chance of success than Simmons. Simmons is completely unproven. Gay is proven, and while he might have a dropoff, its still a higher chance of success. Especially given the price.

[MaNu4Tres]

We shall see. They may play different positions but might have had a similar role as bench scorer? I doubt Gay is going to be just a floor spacer. I mean I'll wait to see what happens but it was the first thing to come to mind.

There is no way Rudy Gay signed for less w/ SA to play a limited bench role, especially behind Kawhi -- where minutes are limited as is. This is probably the most important contract year in his career at age 30.

He'll likely start at the 4 and I'm sure that came up in negotiations.

DJ/Mills - Green - Kawhi - Gay - LMA
DJ/Mills - Hanga or Manu - Simmons - Bertans or Kyle - Pau
TP - Forbes - Lee - White

Blossomgame + another two way contract.

Kyle or Bertans will likely be the odd man out.

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Pop does not promise u start ask sj

[SpurPadre]

Does Gay signing basically mean either Manu retires or Simmons is gone?

[spurs1990]

Using numbers from basketballreference, 2018 FA is looking good for SA.

Spurs salaries on the books for 2018-2019:

Aldridge - 22m (player option)
Leonard - 20m
Mills - 12.5m
Gasol - TBD 8-15m
Green - 10m (player option)
Gay - 8.5m (player option)
White - 1.5m

At most that'll be 89.5m.
If the players opt out and Gasol is on the lower end then it's only 42m.

Meaning Spurs may have 60 million in cap space for summer 2018.

[SPURt]

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[MaNu4Tres]

Does Gay signing basically mean either Manu retires or Simmons is gone?

Not close. Both can be back.

[SpurPadre]

Not close. Both can be back.

At the expense of LDN being traded?

[MaNu4Tres]

At the expense of LDN being traded?

No.

[SAGirl]

There is no way Rudy Gay signed for less w/ SA to play a limited bench role, especially behind Kawhi -- where minutes are limited as is. This is probably the most important contract year in his career at age 30.

He'll likely start at the 4 and I'm sure that came up in negotiations.

DJ/Mills - Green - Kawhi - Gay - LMA
DJ/Mills - Hanga or Manu - Simmons - Bertans or Kyle - Pau
TP - Forbes - Lee - White

Blossomgame + another two way contract.

Kyle or Bertans will likely be the odd man out.

You have a good point... It still popped into my mind JSimms isn't going to be back. Maybe based on wrong assumptions.

[Ron Swanson]

[TheDoctor]

Does SA even want Hanga now? Does Pau get more than one-year? Is 2018 cap space really viable with Mills now on the books, likely Simmons, likely Pau, Rudy Gay?

Assuming Pau is back, that leaves only LMA/Pau as legit bigs. Does Lee come back? Muli come over?

What about Manu? Already a ton of guards and if you add in Hanga does that leave room for Manu or do they cut Forbes for Manu?

Still lots of questions.

If Simmons get/signs an offer of 15M+/yr you betcha Spurs won't match. In that scenario yeah, SA should want/get Hanga.

[SAGirl]

Murray, Mills, Parker
Green, White, Forbes
Leonard, Anderson, Hanga
Gay, Bertans
Aldridge, Gasol, Milutinov

16: Blossomgame

Just need a "legit PF" for the last spot and then a developmental center for the second two-way slot, and we're golden.

I mean looking at this... where do you see Manu and Simmons? This roster is crowded already in guards

[rastaspur]

Simmons is a better piece now if we play small with Gay at the 4. He can take advantage of more spacing with his athleticism. Gay's passing allows him to cut off ball.

I hope Gay recovers well from his injury. Even little moves like this get me excited about the season. Especially because we may be playing much differently next year.

Gay's passing.

Has more career turnovers than assists and has generally been considered a black hole on every team he has been on.

[HarlemHeat37]

Gay's passing.

Has more career turnovers than assists and has generally been considered a black hole on every team he has been on.

[DPG21920]

Gay's passing.

Has more career turnovers than assists and has generally been considered a black hole on every team he has been on.

Why can't he just be a hole? So much racism on this site.

[spurs1990]

So 17 roster spots allowable starting for this upcoming season?

[SAGirl]

Gay's passing.

Has more career turnovers than assists and has generally been considered a black hole on every team he has been on.

Yeah.. I am not excited about him if I am honest. Then on top of that he is coming back from an Achilles tear.

Pair him with other black holes in the SL (not Kawhi but others) and it doesn't make for a likeable team. Who knows how it comes along.

[DPG21920]

So 17 roster spots allowable starting for this upcoming season?

Yup. 2 2-way contracts (meaning can play in G-League & SA), 15 normal spots & 13 active each game.

[HarlemHeat37]

Yeah.. I am not excited about him if I am honest. Then on top of that he is coming back from an Achilles tear.

Pair him with other black holes in the SL (not Kawhi but others) and it doesn't make for a likeable team. Who knows how it comes along.

Do you want to see Simmons return?

[TheDoctor]

Found DRapist cut:

[NASpurs]

Why can't he just be a hole? So much racism on this site.

I agree, they like to be called African American holes now.

[SAGirl]

Does SA even want Hanga now? Does Pau get more than one-year? Is 2018 cap space really viable with Mills now on the books, likely Simmons, likely Pau, Rudy Gay?

Assuming Pau is back, that leaves only LMA/Pau as legit bigs. Does Lee come back? Muli come over?

What about Manu? Already a ton of guards and if you add in Hanga does that leave room for Manu or do they cut Forbes for Manu?

Still lots of questions.

There was that tweet that Hanga was only joining if Manu retired and ppl made fun of me for believing his agent wasn't joking. Its possible he only joins if either Manu retires or Simmons signs elsewhere bc there weren't going to be enough spots around. It's already crowded.