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    He lost the South because old black people are ing re ed. They just remember how much Bill powdered their asses and thought Hillary would do the same. They never bothered to see that Bernie's ideas were by far the best for the black community.
    This. The old n!ggers in the south are brain dead bible thumpers who would vote for a golden retriever with dementia if its last name was Clinton and if their preacher told them to.

    Blaming the Bernie supporters for Trump is one of the dumbest pro-Hillary things Reck has said on this site. Bernie lost the primary because of super delegates and re ed black people who think Bill Clinton is an ally to the black community since he likes fat white women and plays the saxaphone.

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    He also thought the white vote was going to carry him. He badly underestimated the southern states and got his ass handed to him there. He essentially lost the fight early on because of it and only made a semi comeback because of the white voting state+ because they were caucuses.

    I don't see how that statement is a "load of crap" given that they're still a huge obstacle to the party.

    The Dem party will never go to the far left. They just have to live with that.
    Classic example of your stupid modern day dem who values multiculturalism over everything else.

    it was Clinton who lost the presidency by ignoring the white vote thinking she could win with support from minority groups that have historically been too ing lazy to vote ( betting your entire campaign on the hope that black people would magically develop a strong enough work ethic to wake up and vote at the same rate white people do).

    Trump won the presidency by more or less giving the middle finger to your beloved minority groups and carrying the white vote.

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    This. The old n!ggers in the south are brain dead bible thumpers who would vote for a golden retriever with dementia if its last name was Clinton and if their preacher told them to.

    Blaming the Bernie supporters for Trump is one of the dumbest pro-Hillary things Reck has said on this site. Bernie lost the primary because of super delegates and re ed black people who think Bill Clinton is an ally to the black community since he likes fat white women and plays the saxaphone.
    The superdelegates really should have started paying attention when Sanders won Michigan and routed Clinton in Wisconsin. But instead the DNC was brain dead in thinking they had the rust belt wrapped up and were better off spending resources at the end of the election for electoral votes in Georgia and Arizona. They got greedy, thinking they had a landslide win and that Clinton was going to get this big mandate like what Obama was elected with in 2008.

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    The superdelegates really should have started paying attention when Sanders won Michigan and routed Clinton in Wisconsin. But instead the DNC was brain dead in thinking they had the rust belt wrapped up and were better off spending resources at the end of the election for electoral votes in Georgia and Arizona. They got greedy, thinking they had a landslide win and that Clinton was going to get this big mandate like what Obama was elected with in 2008.
    It's only going to get worse too, I think Minnesota is the next state to flip. The anti-immigration sentiment there has grown a lot ever since they let Minneapolis essentially become a refugee camp for Somalians to collect welfare. The question is if the Trump voters in places like Youngstown flip back to voting Democratic after Trump spends 4 years taking their healthcare away and cutting taxes for the rich while doing nothing to limit free trade.

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    Classic example of your stupid modern day dem who values multiculturalism over everything else.

    it was Clinton who lost the presidency by ignoring the white vote thinking she could win with support from minority groups that have historically been too ing lazy to vote ( betting your entire campaign on the hope that black people would magically develop a strong enough work ethic to wake up and vote at the same rate white people do).

    Trump won the presidency by more or less giving the middle finger to your beloved minority groups and carrying the white vote.
    I really hope Trump's immigration bill gets some real Democrat support, but I doubt it will because think of the teh mexicans . The green card lottery is re ed. I don't see why we shouldn't have a merit based immigration system like the rest of the first world. Give me your poor, tired, hungry, etc made sense 150 years ago when we were a nation with a ton of land and almost no one on it, but now as a nation of 330 million there is no reason for us to be needing just a bunch of warm bodies. I'm for cutting immigration so we can see a shortage of labor that would give workers a real bargaining tool to raise the wages that have stagnated for 35 years now. the wall though, what a waste of money. Take that money and instead put it into enforcement of the laws on the books for people who hire s.

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    exactly. not sure why the dems can't seem to figure this out.
    It's not Clintons, it's the entire Dem professional political establishment beholden to the oligarchy's $Bs

    Iow, the oligarchy owns and operates the country, with both parties doing its bidding, with the Repugs being overtly more active

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    I really hope Trump's immigration bill gets some real Democrat support, but I doubt it will because think of the teh mexicans . The green card lottery is re ed. I don't see why we shouldn't have a merit based immigration system like the rest of the first world. Give me your poor, tired, hungry, etc made sense 150 years ago when we were a nation with a ton of land and almost no one on it, but now as a nation of 330 million there is no reason for us to be needing just a bunch of warm bodies. I'm for cutting immigration so we can see a shortage of labor that would give workers a real bargaining tool to raise the wages that have stagnated for 35 years now. the wall though, what a waste of money. Take that money and instead put it into enforcement of the laws on the books for people who hire s.
    This makes a ton of sense... I'd vote for someone who ran on that. Wages and salaries increase when there's less compe ion squeezing labor prices down, it's basic economics.

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    This makes a ton of sense... I'd vote for someone who ran on that. Wages and salaries increase when there's less compe ion squeezing labor prices down, it's basic economics.
    Pretty much, it's been like that since the beginning of time. The first time workers in Europe actually had bargaining power was after the Plague literally wiped out 1/3rd of its population.

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    Reck getting wrecked in this thread.

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    Health care in america is ed and doomed to remain ed because BigInsrance has rigged it to be rigged for their profit NOT for health care

    Medicare for all is the solution but it's impossible because BigInsurance, backed by its investors, owns legislators

    Look at the insanity of health care reform, it's all about how to pay the prices, where to find the money demanded, extorted, not how to reduce costs
    No thanks. I'd rather keep my private insurance for me and my family instead of be on Medicare which my parents are on.

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    When supply of Labor gets tight, upward pressure on wages, the Fed, operated by and for Capitalists, will raise interest rates to cause excess Labor and suppress wage demands
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    Pretty much, it's been like that since the beginning of time. The first time workers in Europe actually had bargaining power was after the Plague literally wiped out 1/3rd of its population.
    That's part of why Europe tries to keep a steady population instead of continuing to have too many babies per couple.

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    He lost the South because old black people are ing re ed. They just remember how much Bill powdered their asses and thought Hillary would do the same. They never bothered to see that Bernie's ideas were by far the best for the black community.


    I think alot of older black people ignoring Bernie was due to the fact Clinton was going around touting Obama every chance she could hoping that alone would cruise her to victory. AA's will always love the Obama's for obvious reasons, and Clinton used that to her advantage far before Obama came out and officially endorsed her. Bernie very rarely mentioned Obama at all. People who are pretty ignorant to things and only focus in on sound bites are easy to fool, and that counts for both sides of the aisle.

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    A lot of black adults remembered Slick Willie signing "end of welfare as we know it", a long-time Repug objective along with 4 other Repug objectives he signed, which screwed Ms of blacks

    Hillary did not excite, did not get enough votes of the young (black, Latino, white) who were disappointed not to vote for Bernie.

    But the Hillary killer was Assange/Pootin and Comey, esp Comey's "we found more email but we don't know what's in it" 10 days before the election.

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    People seem to think this Trump win was a blow out.
    This was a very, very close election.

    Why is it that because the election was a surprise, it is assumed as some sort of mandate?

    The democrats could win with a turnip IMO, especially based on the incompetence now.

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    A lot of black adults remembered Slick Willie signing "end of welfare as we know it", a long-time Repug objective along with 4 other Repug objectives he signed, which screwed Ms of blacks

    Hillary did not excite, did not get enough votes of the young (black, Latino, white) who were disappointed not to vote for Bernie.

    But the Hillary killer was Assange/Pootin and Comey, esp Comey's "we found more email but we don't know what's in it" 10 days before the election.
    Wrong.

    Trump mined the uneducated white vote that sat at home before.
    And, she was a ridiculously obstinate candidate that could not admit she was wrong and used cunning to walk the line of legality. She was a Democtatic Trump in many ways concerning status and $

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    People seem to think this Trump win was a blow out.
    This was a very, very close election.

    Why is it that because the election was a surprise, it is assumed as some sort of mandate?

    The democrats could win with a turnip IMO, especially based on the incompetence now.

    If Trump continues down this road you can almost bet that the Repugs will have a challenger in 20 especially if Trump is polling as bad as he is now.

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    No thanks. I'd rather keep my private insurance for me and my family instead of be on Medicare which my parents are on.
    I would expect Medicare for all to be improved over current Medicare AND eliminate the BigInsurance subsidy of Medicare Advantage.

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    Wrong.

    Trump mined the uneducated white vote that sat at home before.
    And, she was a ridiculously obstinate candidate that could not admit she was wrong and used cunning to walk the line of legality. She was a Democtatic Trump in many ways concerning status and $
    Go ahead, get 'em to "sat" again.

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    If Trump continues down this road you can almost bet that the Repugs will have a challenger in 20 especially if Trump is polling as bad as he is now.
    All that remains to be seen is how Republican rats leave the sinking ship. It's very hard to predict how the significants will portray their opposition to Trump in 20.

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    Go ahead, get 'em to "sat" again.
    Can you guarantee another Hillary? If so...

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    Can you guarantee another Hillary? If so...
    Frankly, that's all you got. You still ain't learned your lessons. You're still trying to ram that square peg into a round hole.

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    Frankly, that's all you got. You still ain't learned your lessons. You're still trying to ram that square peg into a round hole.
    They've nary other choice. Tapper and Maddow ring the bell and they come a runnin'

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    They've nary other choice. Tapper and Maddow ring the bell and they come a runnin'
    Bingo!!!

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    Frankly, that's all you got. You still ain't learned your lessons. You're still trying to ram that square peg into a round hole.
    I am.

    What did I just post about Hillary?
    Think.

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