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So defeating the Nazi's was an achievement of "largely straight white men"?
You are really going to go there?
Maybe. I'm hesitant to make a direct comparison to people who dumped dead gassed bodies into open graves, but I'm sure there are some in that Charlottesville crowd who have that potential.
Mainly I see a bunch of privileged white bags who run screaming for mommy at the site of any physical conflict. "more milk!
So defeating the Nazi's was an achievement of "largely straight white men"?
You are really going to go there?
Who was responsible for the violence in Charlottesville? Here's what witnesses say
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...s=mcnewsletter
btw, LA Times won't be publishing articles like this if Repug FCC approves rightwing oligarchist Sinclair buying Tribune group.
LAtimes and other Sinclair media will be publishing articles written by Sinclair corporate.
No few of them have stated explicitly that is exactly what they would do, given the chance. Such sentiments are not uncommon.
May be bluster, but it seems logical to take them at their word, out of caution.
American troops who fought the Nazis were predominately straight white men. Are you honestly disputing that?
You think they are garbage, yet you repeat their talking points.
I'm sorry, but that makes you a useful idiot.
You are exactly the kind of weak-minded simpleton they are shooting for in order to legitimize themselves.
If you don't like the comparison, start thinking for yourself.
I think we disagree on the definition of "uncommon."
Perhaps is all to do with Trump himself and the utter lack of action in his part. As a matter of fact, let me check myself. Trump has actually seemingly chosen a side.
Can you imagine if Obama had come out and sided with antifa?
Remember the outrage when he supported what BLM was doing as a cause? I do and that was tame in comparison given that the BLM movement started out as a legit issue before it got perverted and corrupted.
Nope.
But in order to make that argument, you sort of glossed over why that was. Complex topic, and your rush to draw moral equivalence between left and right in this case, opens your flank to criticism.
The case against free speech for fascists
Free speech absolutism also elides the issue of race.
Neo-Nazis may be expressing hated views, but they are still white, and law enforcement, the courts, and the state will treat them accordingly.
In Ferguson in 2014, mostly black anti-racist protestors were met with an overwhelmingly militarized response; 155 people were arrested.
In Charlottesville, by contrast, despite numerous incidents of violence, police arrested only four people.
https://qz.com/1053957/charlottesville-neo-nazis-and-the-case-against-free-speech-for-fascists/?mc_cid=70d578520a&mc_eid=47e367557b
Feel free to provide a working definition.
The core of violence and brutality is easy to prove. I wouldn't say a majority would, but there are enough that say like that, to be a sizable minority.
I have seen/heard it first hand.
extremist false equivalence. How long did Ferguson go on? How many buildings burned? How many out of town protest posers that in reality came to Ferguson for the sole purpose of anarchy.
Keep trill.
No. You're being dishonest and putting words in my mouth. I said troops.
You're uncomfortable being confronted with the fact that you're lauding the accomplishments of white men a la the picture you posted in this thread. I never said your siding with white men when it's expedient for you was at all equivalent with what the right is doing.
Next time, don't rush to manufacture a squabble with me because I'll make you look like an ass, again.
What talking points have I repeated?
And it's a little hypocritical of you, since you started today with the "fresh" meme of Antifa storming Normandy.
It's fundamentally subjective. The worst I've seen from this group want to deport Jews and minorities and create a white state.
Certainly they're capable of murder under the guise of self defense, but the German Nazis didn't even have to make that caveat.
My point is these assholes are evil enough without claiming Charlottesville is the new Normandy. I'm not picking on you, this is a comparison I'm seeing all over the place and it's not doing us any favors.
Baltimore removes 4 confederate monuments overnight.
Is that before or after the Democrats elected a black guy twice
Good. Move them out just like the Colts.
I'm not trying to say an entire political party of made up of racists.
I'm just pointing out that the media never demanded that the Clintons to DISAVOW the KKK.
Seems hypocritical to me.
Nah, Byrd had already apologized for being in the KKK and disavowed them.
Trump is still playing footsie with the alt-right.
Because it wasn't an issue?
The only reason why people are demanding Trump do so is because Trump himself made it an issue. Just look at the past 2 years. The guy's campaign was built on bigotry and hatred.
I'll just bet he did.
And you want to honor them for it
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