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It will be after the Spurs waive and stretch Manu next summer.
shoulda been a 4 year deal, tbh... oh well
It will be after the Spurs waive and stretch Manu next summer.
Two years
In two years,
Kawhi is going to be playing with two 40 year olds Latinos, a 35 year old fat starter, a 37 year old Parker and a 33 year old who cant dribble.
Go to LA kawhi
He's not leaving SA...at least for two more years...and probably longer...maybe until his career is over.
Since the late 80s, most of the truly great players who started their NBA careers in SA have stayed in SA.
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It could work depending on the match up
da goatwhat a discount! thank you Manu...
UNDERPAID
Rudy won't average more than 22 minutes a game through december. He will be eased in. Pops not putting a heavy load on him to start the season.
I think token starting joffrey to start the season is a viable option. If he responds well and plays decent, then pop can be patient with gays minutes for sure to start the season.
If pop is dying to play small ball, start kyle at the beginning of the season.
The question is......did we improve or not??
A very interesting take on Joff. Everybody is worrying about whether he can cut it as a 3rd big, and you have him getting some starts. With Rudy on board, cir stances are very different from last season, or I might expect Pop to give him starts at mid-season as he did with Deadman. So, I wouldn't be surprised if you were right about Shirley.
Why are folks still arguing that scrub Hanga?
Spurs front office just realized the dude sucks.
This year's off-season can best be compared to a classic rock station: tired, uninspired and going nowhere fast.
He is just trying to be edgy. As always.
Only four! Ye of little faith! Truth be told Manu coming back is the best news we've had this summer...Rudy Gay not withstanding, who was much needed.
People complaining that Manu took Hanga's spot
Hanga isn't the missing link to a contender. In fact, Manu will be more valuable for this year's team (as he proved against Houston last year) and even if Manu were a dropoff, you accept that given what he's sacrificed for this team. And before someone complains about his $14mm last season, it LITERALLY didn't matter. Without Manu, the Spurs likely lose two home playoff games that helped pay part of that salary (plus the WCF appearance and a moment we will all remember in Game 5) and put butts in the seats in the RS post-Timmy.
Considered all together, you now get Mills+Gasol+Manu for $29 million both next year and the year after. Not bad. The Gasol deal is a bad overpay, but only really hurts next offseason which unfortunately is the last offseason of cheap Kawhi unless they string out his extension.
Yep!People complaining that Manu took Hanga's spot
Hanga isn't the missing link to a contender. In fact, Manu will be more valuable for this year's team (as he proved against Houston last year) and even if Manu were a dropoff, you accept that given what he's sacrificed for this team. And before someone complains about his $14mm last season, it LITERALLY didn't matter. Without Manu, the Spurs likely lose two home playoff games that helped pay part of that salary (plus the WCF appearance and a moment we will all remember in Game 5) and put butts in the seats in the RS post-Timmy.
Considered all together, you now get Mills+Gasol+Manu for $29 million both next year and the year after. Not bad. The Gasol deal is a bad overpay, but only really hurts next offseason which unfortunately is the last offseason of cheap Kawhi unless they string out his extension.
No, AKA that I just took you off my ignore list like a month ago and would rather just agree to disagree than put you back on it so soon.AKA, you've been proven wrong but don't want to admit it.
Let's be clear:
This is meaningless. Players "replacing" others in the rotation implies that Pop basis his units off some objective set of conditions and not the players themselves. When you say something like "Anderson replaces Simmons", it sounds tone deaf. As if they weren't fighting for one spot all last year. There wasn't a Simmons "role" that Kyle is now slipping into, unless you think he's going to be in compe ion for minutes at the backup three with himself.Rotation wise, Gay replaces Lee and part of Dedmon (Lauvergne/Bertans replace the other part), Anderson replaces Simmons and Paul replaces Anderson.
Manu's particular role is a factor of himself and his and Pop's relationship. If he were off the team, Pop would have to reconsider everything. He wouldn't just tell Kyle "You're now taking Manu's 18.7 mpg, but that means you'll be sitting a third of the season; Paul, you got Simmons' 1300 minutes unless Hanga beats you out." That's what you're implying, and it's just foolish. As for your desire to say top-eight over top-10, that difference amounted to one minute per game and 100 minutes total. That's it. It was a very insignificant difference that you tried to blow up into a real distinction.
This is ... optimistic. And it's probably time to start pivoting to optimism anyway. I'm so ing tired of hearing about what Manu sacrificed, though. Dude's been paid $130 Million from the Spurs. Where the line would fall for him to be paid fairly would likely be right around there. The Spurs paid $14 Million for a block. Fine. I'm glad Manu stepped up and hope he does for as long as the team has him. But it was a terrible deal that DID affect the team financially, even though it likely didn't change their plans.People complaining that Manu took Hanga's spot
Hanga isn't the missing link to a contender. In fact, Manu will be more valuable for this year's team (as he proved against Houston last year) and even if Manu were a dropoff, you accept that given what he's sacrificed for this team. And before someone complains about his $14mm last season, it LITERALLY didn't matter. Without Manu, the Spurs likely lose two home playoff games that helped pay part of that salary (plus the WCF appearance and a moment we will all remember in Game 5) and put butts in the seats in the RS post-Timmy.
Considered all together, you now get Mills+Gasol+Manu for $29 million both next year and the year after. Not bad. The Gasol deal is a bad overpay, but only really hurts next offseason which unfortunately is the last offseason of cheap Kawhi unless they string out his extension.
Manu et al for $29 Million would be great if they were signed to one-year deals with team options next summer. Of course, they aren't, and it's the future lack of flexibility that is the real killer here, as well as the Spurs' new willingness to piss away cap space with dead money.
true alpha leader taking paycuts for the sake of the team
Third best Spurs all time tbqh
he's gonna play until he's 50
Explain how it affected the team financially? It had literally no impact on last offseason. The alternative was signing a league min guy to take his place. He was not worth $14mm on the court, but still had a net positive impact and probably was still a positive net value to the franchise. It's hard to quantify what it meant in terms of ticket sales ... but a team without Duncan AND Manu would have taken a hit. Maybe not $14 million of value to the Holts but certainly something.
The Spurs used cap space last off-season. That included Manu's $6 Million--ish hold. The difference between Manu and no Manu was the difference between Gasol's slot and a max slot. While the Spurs likely didn't want to go for a guy like Whiteside (who may not have wanted to leave MIA in the first place), to say Manu's deal did not impact the cap is extremely wrong-headed and has been debunked multiple times.
And without getting into a debate about what Manu means from a marketing standpoint, I will just say that they don't seem all too concerned with their bottom dollar, given that they've pissed away more than $16 Million from 2016-2018 for guys who weren't or aren't likely won't be on the team.
risk/reward is greater with gay than it would have been with hanga. i've got no problem with hanga being the odd man out.
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