Lakers: Kobe has never had a season as good as last three year Curry, last year Leonard..

[LkrFan]

Oh, but let's count those Minneapolis chips.

Even without them, Lakers 11, Sp*rs 4.61

* denotes winning a rang in a strike shortened season. 50/82=0.61.

Burns, huh?

[LkrFan]

As the second fiddle? Okay

Kobe 5
Snaq 4
Pau 2

Shhh!

[Clipper Nation]

Haters can hate but there's no doubt that Kobe had the secret sauce for winning.

Yeah, it's called being carried by Shaq, Pau, Phil, Stern, Horry, Artest, Odom...

[LkrFan]

Yeah, it's called being carried by Shaq, Pau, Phil, Stern, Horry, Artest, Odom...

[ambchang]

Kobe 5
Snaq 4
Pau 2

Shhh!

Horry 7
Fisher 5
Kobe 5

Shhhh

[djohn2oo8]

LMAO, you can always tell the rookies~~~~

Irving, Westbrook, Isiah, Wall, regular season CP3... the PG position is well represented at this time.
The SG position is actually much weaker.

~~~~ZOOOOOOOOM~~~~<

Irving who couldn't will his team to the playoffs without LeBron. Wall, who has done what? Isaiah who has done what? Lillard is considered a top 10 PG in today's NBA. Compe ion is .

[Clipper Nation]

Irving who couldn't will his team to the playoffs without LeBron. Wall, who has done what? Isaiah who has done what? Lillard is considered a top 10 PG in today's NBA. Compe ion is .

You forgot to ask what Chris "Second-Round Exit" Paul has done. CP0 has been Curry's for years now.

[djohn2oo8]

Are you guys talking overall or in the finals?

Overall, currys got Chris paul, john wall, Irving, Westbrook,harden, Conley, walker, Lowry, Isaiah Thomas. Irving is the only one of note in the finals

For Kobe, it's tmac, carter, AI, Pierce, Allen, ginobili, bobby/Christie, bonus wells, Bowen

I'd say they are pretty even compe ion wise, but curry was the first option and his compe ion were mostly first option, Kobe was the second banana and was measured against mostly first options, so those aren't really his actual compe ion.

Overall. Compe ion. wise it's not even close. Kobe faced alot of HOFs at the wing during his career. You are saying Lowry, Irving, Harden, Thomas, Conley are all future HOFs?

[djohn2oo8]

Curry is no longer a first option. Not with Durant there.

[LkrFan]

Horry 7
Fisher 5
Kobe 5

Shhhh

Horry was at the right place at the right time. No all star games. Fisher too. That's your credible argument?

[djohn2oo8]

An owner that brought him Shaq first and MVPau later when he was pouting? Or a commissioner that admitted he would have a Lakers vs Lakers Final every year if he could?

And Curry has Durant in his prime who is wayyyyy better than Pau. If you want to call anyone MVP whatever, look at Durant's playoff run compared to Curry's.

[namlook]

Horry 7
Fisher 5
Kobe 5

Shhhh

Horry and Fisher were not anywhere near all-star level performers so how is that even relevant?

Using your logic this means something:

Horry 7
Jordan 6
Kareem 6
Magic 5

[ambchang]

Overall. Compe ion. wise it's not even close. Kobe faced alot of HOFs at the wing during his career. You are saying Lowry, Irving, Harden, Thomas, Conley are all future HOFs?

Harden is extremely likely to be an MVP player. Irving has a chance.

Pierce, Tmac, AI, Allen, ginobili are locks. That's five. Who else?

Chris paul is a lock. Westbrook is pretty much a lock (can't think of any mvps who didn't make the hall). Harden is highly likely. Wall and Irving has a chance if they keep it up (like tmac and Allen). That's five.

[ambchang]

Horry was at the right place at the right time. No all star games. Fisher too. That's your credible argument?

Kobe defined what right place right time is.

[ambchang]

Horry and Fisher were not anywhere near all-star level performers so how is that even relevant?

Using your logic this means something:

Horry 7
Jordan 6
Kareem 6
Magic 5

If you actually used you brain, you wouldn't figured that's his logic, not mine.

[ElNono]

Irving who couldn't will his team to the playoffs without LeBron. Wall, who has done what? Isaiah who has done what? Lillard is considered a top 10 PG in today's NBA. Compe ion is .

Irving hit the 3 that sealed the championship and the backdoor sweep... As good as Lebron is, everybody needs some help, tbh... Wall, Isaiah, Russ... they're all the best players on their respective teams (EDIT: or were), the PG position in the current NBA is pretty stacked...

Take the SG position as contrast... you have Harden and the 2nd best guy is way down... back in the day you had Wade, T-Mac, Ray Allen, prime Manu, RIP... the position was stacked, even if T-Mac or Ray didn't really win anything when they were 1st bananas...

[ElNono]

You forgot to ask what Chris "Second-Round Exit" Paul has done. CP0 has been Curry's for years now.

tbf, I specifically named 'regular season Chris Paul'... the PG position is pretty stacked right now, and I'm not trying to take anything away from Curry, he's dope, but there's a lot of great talent at his position...

Sure, he sometimes has to compete with the Porkers of the world and has some easy nights, but overall, there's compe ion out there.

[ElNono]

And Curry has Durant in his prime who is wayyyyy better than Pau. If you want to call anyone MVP whatever, look at Durant's playoff run compared to Curry's.

Curry has Durant because Raymond cried , tbh... I was just pointing out that having the 'secret sauce of winning' is a lot easier when you have the league and best players carrying you...

[djohn2oo8]

Curry has Durant because Raymond cried , tbh... I was just pointing out that having the 'secret sauce of winning' is a lot easier when you have the league and best players carrying you...

Except Pau had done nothing in Memphis beforehand.

[djohn2oo8]

Harden is extremely likely to be an MVP player. Irving has a chance.

Pierce, Tmac, AI, Allen, ginobili are locks. That's five. Who else?

Chris paul is a lock. Westbrook is pretty much a lock (can't think of any mvps who didn't make the hall). Harden is highly likely. Wall and Irving has a chance if they keep it up (like tmac and Allen). That's five.

Kobe also did face Reggie Miller in those 2000 finals. 24.3 PPG. Also Vince Carter is probably a lock as well.

[ElNono]

Except Pau had done nothing in Memphis beforehand.

He made the playoffs with a terrible cast, tbh, not to mention Kobe flat out quit after Shaq stopped holding his hand, some 'secret loser sauce' that was...

[ambchang]

Kobe also did face Reggie Miller in those 2000 finals. 24.3 PPG. Also Vince Carter is probably a lock as well.

True. Kobe played 19 years. Currys going on his 7th. And the compe ion they faced is already comparable.

Btw, Kobe's compe ion in the 2000 finals was Austin croshere. No need to change it to a HoFer to fit your narrative.

And if people want to make fun of Irving playing against dellanova, then be sure to have Kobe's matchup correct and name Eric snow instead of AI.

[DMC]

You forgot to ask what Chris "Second-Round Exit" Paul has done. CP0 has been Curry's for years now.

He didn't forget. That loser is on his team now, he gets a free pass.

[DMC]

He made the playoffs with a terrible cast, tbh, not to mention Kobe flat out quit after Shaq stopped holding his hand, some 'secret loser sauce' that was...

While Shaq went into Miami and rang.

[namlook]

If you actually used you brain, you wouldn't figured that's his logic, not mine.

But it wasn't. His logic compared players who are or who will be hall of famers, while your post was just dumb comparing players who weren't even all stars to hall of fame talent.