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    That has infinitely more to do with Jan Brewer / Doug Ducey defunding public education to appease the tea bagger base.

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    You voted for an emotion.
    This made me lol....I'm stealing this.

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    this is a necessary move to get those steel mills up and running. all those toothless, jobless hicks who voted trump will have their jobs back in no time.
    Thats good trill, fight ignorant racism with ignorant racism. That'll teach em!

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    Man, you are making less sense than usual.

    Sorry I asked.

    Carry on then.
    I've only gotten to this point of the thread.....but why are you trying to have a conversation with someone that can barely grasp English? Shame on you really!

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    But 0.003% of them have been accused of a crime!
    Is that really the number?

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    Is that really the number?
    does it matter if they created crime?
    they are talking jobs away and house
    look at what houses cost in california

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    Is that really the number?
    Well, it's Breitbart so I can't say it's totally accurate, but since their bias is well known it's significant they could only find 25 cases out of the 800k. Now a couple they found were horrific, but that number is even smaller than the 25. I have to assume they tried to find as many as possible, but they could just suck at their jobs.

    http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/...eamer-program/

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    OK it won't be DACA but it could be something similar passed by congress and signed into law by POTUS the way our govt is supposed to work
    That is correct Chump.

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    does it matter if they created crime?
    they are talking jobs away and house
    look at what houses cost in california
    Here's what I will say about the "they're taking jobs away"....now this is just in my little world here so it's very antecdotal, but I think it probably holds true for many others.....

    I'm trying to compete in an industry that uses a ton of illegals and pays them cash. I on the other hand try my best to do everything in my power to keep our company above board and we do so by only hiring do ented and US citizens.....and we are getting our ing asses handed to us. So while it's not a "they're taking our jobs" scenario, it is indeed an issue that negatively impacts my company and I would like to see a solution because people are taking advantage of the market and screwing those of us abiding by the rules.

    Just thought I'd throw that out there.

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    Well, it's Breitbart so I can't say it's totally accurate, but since their bias is well known it's significant they could only find 25 cases out of the 800k. Now a couple they found were horrific, but that number is even smaller than the 25. I have to assume they tried to find as many as possible, but they could just suck at their jobs.

    http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/...eamer-program/
    Thanks

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    Here's what I will say about the "they're taking jobs away"....now this is just in my little world here so it's very antecdotal, but I think it probably holds true for many others.....

    I'm trying to compete in an industry that uses a ton of illegals and pays them cash. I on the other hand try my best to do everything in my power to keep our company above board and we do so by only hiring do ented and US citizens.....and we are getting our ing asses handed to us. So while it's not a "they're taking our jobs" scenario, it is indeed an issue that negatively impacts my company and I would like to see a solution because people are taking advantage of the market and screwing those of us abiding by the rules.

    Just thought I'd throw that out there.
    That's the kind of that pisses me off and a wall won't do a god damned thing about it. If Trump was serious about illegal immigration he'd put that money he wants for the wall into enforcement of our hiring laws and have the DOJ start bringing criminal cases against people who hire illegals. I get protecting the border but it's a problem affecting the rest of the nation too.

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    Here's what I will say about the "they're taking jobs away"....now this is just in my little world here so it's very antecdotal, but I think it probably holds true for many others.....

    I'm trying to compete in an industry that uses a ton of illegals and pays them cash. I on the other hand try my best to do everything in my power to keep our company above board and we do so by only hiring do ented and US citizens.....and we are getting our ing asses handed to us. So while it's not a "they're taking our jobs" scenario, it is indeed an issue that negatively impacts my company and I would like to see a solution because people are taking advantage of the market and screwing those of us abiding by the rules.

    Just thought I'd throw that out there.
    so you work in construction?

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    so you work in construction?
    Si

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    tough spot. poor supply of do ented skilled labor. many would rather work in oil industry, specifically fracking. and as in many cases with undo ented workers, they often take on the dirty jobs like hanging drywall that many other laborers would rather avoid. unless young people regain interest in construction, the pool will remain dry should undo ented workers be cast off.

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    Thats good trill, fight ignorant racism with ignorant racism. That'll teach em!
    wdh are you talking about. i didn't bring up race in my post. i don't know why you skipped over all the overt racism here just to police my post?

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    They're here illegallyPERIOD

    I don't feel bad for them. I feel bad for Americans who have spent billions upon billions of dollars on these leeches.

    It is a disgrace.

    They need to return to their countries and make them livable...&/or stay in their countries and make them livable.

    Get outPERIOD
    Has nothing to do with 'feeling bad for them', it has to do with punishing people that didn't do anything by themselves to be punished. It doesn't start nor end with illegals.

    It just makes no sense, it's arbitrary punishment based basically on existing. This are the kind of decisions that lead to Jap internment camps (because they were Jap!) and this country still regrets it.

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    tough spot. poor supply of do ented skilled labor. many would rather work in oil industry, specifically fracking. and as in many cases with undo ented workers, they often take on the dirty jobs like hanging drywall that many other laborers would rather avoid. unless young people regain interest in construction, the pool will remain dry should undo ented workers be cast off.
    As you well know, the whole industry is so ed....all the baby boomers retiring is leaving a void and no sane young person wants in because all the baby boomers were generally suckers (not all of them) and they turn people away from the industry. I'll be terrified to drive over a newly constructed bridge 20 years from now.

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    wdh are you talking about. i didn't bring up race in my post. i don't know why you skipped over all the overt racism here just to police my post?
    If it looks like a duck.....

    And I'm not sure why I did either....maybe it's because yours stand out to me since it's been your schtick on here for so long.

    Don't get mad bruh, just let me know I'm a demon and move on.

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    I've only gotten to this point of the thread.....but why are you trying to have a conversation with someone that can barely grasp English? Shame on you really!
    Yup. My bad. Mea culpa. Some men you just can't reach.

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    If it looks like a duck.....

    And I'm not sure why I did either....maybe it's because yours stand out to me since it's been your schtick on here for so long.

    Don't get mad bruh, just let me know I'm a demon and move on.
    its cool. respect.

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    Here's what I will say about the "they're taking jobs away"....now this is just in my little world here so it's very antecdotal, but I think it probably holds true for many others.....

    I'm trying to compete in an industry that uses a ton of illegals and pays them cash. I on the other hand try my best to do everything in my power to keep our company above board and we do so by only hiring do ented and US citizens.....and we are getting our ing asses handed to us. So while it's not a "they're taking our jobs" scenario, it is indeed an issue that negatively impacts my company and I would like to see a solution because people are taking advantage of the market and screwing those of us abiding by the rules.

    Just thought I'd throw that out there.
    You are not alone, based on the ongoing stuff I read in places like the Economist.

    Give an easy path to citizenship, bulk up the process to get those people out of the shadows, and into the legitimate workforce. Then ramp up labor and tax law enforcement to the point where the people hiring them have a much better chance of being caught using undo ented laborers.

    , a decent temporary work permit process would do it.

    The problem is that the GOP base would never go for it, and that is the part of the electorate that has been setting the tone of the debate for a long time on immigration.

    The Democrats need to find their nutz and get this done, IMO.

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    Has nothing to do with 'feeling bad for them', it has to do with punishing people that didn't do anything by themselves to be punished. It doesn't start nor end with illegals.

    It just makes no sense, it's arbitrary punishment based basically on existing. This are the kind of decisions that lead to Jap internment camps (because they were Jap!) and this country still regrets it.
    They're brown, nono. Cub already stated his reasons

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    That's the kind of that pisses me off and a wall won't do a god damned thing about it. If Trump was serious about illegal immigration he'd put that money he wants for the wall into enforcement of our hiring laws and have the DOJ start bringing criminal cases against people who hire illegals. I get protecting the border but it's a problem affecting the rest of the nation too.
    I agree that the DOJ needs to do more to stop employers from hiring illegals, but that alone isn't going to stop the problem. DACA recipients are eligible for state-funded benefits in some states. People will still come illegally for the handouts.

    eVerify and the wall can both be parts of an overall immigration plan, it doesn't have to be one or the other.

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    Well, it's Breitbart so I can't say it's totally accurate, but since their bias is well known it's significant they could only find 25 cases out of the 800k. Now a couple they found were horrific, but that number is even smaller than the 25. I have to assume they tried to find as many as possible, but they could just suck at their jobs.

    http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/...eamer-program/
    "could"? LOL

    I guess if your job was defined as "journalist", then yes.

    If your job was defined as "propagandist", then no. They are very good at pushing their viewpoint.

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