The point is that Trump promised a lot of things, and some of them weren't typical GOP line items. Despite having the majority, the Republicans can't seem to put together a winning coalition. This debt-ceiling thing showed that Trump and the Dems apparently can. I don't think anyone thinks it will be a permanent or even frequent thing. There's more than one way to skin a cat, though, and the more Trump tries to go to the Left, the more people on the Right will break with Ryan in order to get reelected. More importantly, the more he works with Dems, the more he can extract from them. Things like environmental regulations and tax breaks that he and the GOP agree on could very well go through without a fight because it's all part of the process.
I'm not old enough to say this with full confidence, but I'm pretty sure that before Congress became this bad, that's sort of what the president did. He pushed his agenda while giving and taking with both sides of the legislature. It's not like only one ideology's bills ever got passed.
I think it's just a coping mechanism on my part, just as it was when I was trying to be optimistic after his victory speech when he hinted at a new stimulus package. I still think the le of this thread is off-base. Trump didn't give up anything by taking the deal, even if he doesn't fully appreciate what he could gain from it.
Upbeat Trump raves to Schumer, Pelosi about news coverage of their deal
The president called the Democratic leaders after striking a budget deal that Republicans hate.
By JOSH DAWSEY
09/07/2017 11:42 AM EDT
Updated 09/07/2017 12:06 PM EDT
Many Republicans were furious with President Donald Trump's budget deal Wednesday, stunned that the president quickly gave in to Democratic demands to pair hurricane relief with a three-month debt limit hike — though getting nothing in return.
But in calls with Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi Thursday morning, Trump raved about the positive news coverage it had received, according to people familiar with the calls, and he seemed very pleased with his decision.
Trump specifically mentioned TV segments praising the deal and indicated he'd been watching in a call with Schumer, two people said. And he was jovial in a call with Pelosi and agreed to send a tweet she asked for about the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, these people said, while also mentioning the attention the deal had gotten. He indicated to both leaders he would be willing to work together again.
"He seemed super upbeat," one person familiar with the calls said.
Another person familiar with the calls said Trump told Pelosi her coverage was even better than his. “The press has been incredible,” Trump said.
Pelosi herself bragged that she had gotten results after asking him to tweet reassurances that Dreamers shouldn't worry about being deported over the next six months while lawmakers try to secure a DACA fix.
“I was telling my colleagues, ‘This is what I asked the president to do,' and boom boom boom, the tweet appeared," she said at a news conference Thursday.
Exactly.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/...p-shiv-the-gopWhy Did Trump Shiv the GOP?
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Donald Trump’s core drive is dominance. We see that in his politics which is revanchist and destructive and in its less dire manifestations driven by a zero sum vision of human and economic relations. For me to win, you have to lose. The more fluid and collaborative aspects of human interaction seem entirely lost on Trump. This is why he is the leader of the revanchist, racist far right.
But the political or ideological manifestations are secondary to the personal one. Trump needs to dominate people. Clearly Trump felt that McConnell and Ryan are not serving him well enough or loyally enough or both. So he lashed out or tried to damage them. Schumer and Pelosi were simply the most convenient cudgels available.
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I don't even know what Trump's agenda is. He goes out and pretends to have some major announcement on tax reform, then gives the tired "we'll say something about it in two weeks." His campaign promise was universal health care, then he just let congress fail at repeal and replace without going to bat for it. He's ending DACA but giving congress six months to revive it. It's too much to expect him to make sense.
Again, it was an objectively great decision. Congress is as unpopular as it's ever been, and no one's going to give a in 2020 that he pissed off Ryan and McConnell three years before. People will remember (because he won't stop talking about it) that he broke from his party and got more aid to the people affected by Harvey. That's going to be a great talking point when the Dems clear the field for Kamala or some other shill most people hate.
Now it's an open question if the US will still be a nation and not a smoldering pile of nuclear waste by then, but if we're still here, it'll be to his advantage. The only surprising thing is really that he was able to recognize a win-win when it showed itself.
A lot of ppl coming out and praising Trump now
Minds blown
Trumps mind is blown. "Fake news Hillary Clinton media" praising something he did. So is their praise fake news?A lot of ppl coming out and praising Trump now
Minds blown
And lery Clintons mind is not blown? "Bernies attacks caused me to lose my electionmy team wouldnt allow me to defend myself
And lery Clintons mind is not blown? "Bernies attacks caused me to lose my election
President Trump not KKKlinton
The better candidate won
We dodged a bullet.
deal
Damn
deal
ding ding ding ding
Every Democratic senator voted yes on the Trump/Schumer/Pelosi Harvey-debt ceiling deal. 17 Republicans voted no.
So do you agree with Schumer/Pelosi or do you disagree with trump?
Lol.....didn't read
President Donald Trump's deal with Democratic leadership to pass an increase in the debt ceiling and deliver Hurricane Harvey aid to Texas could ultimately help the administration's tax reform agenda, political commentator Michael Reagan said Thursday.
In an interview with "Newmax Now" hosts Bill Tucker and Carol Roth on Newsmax TV, the son of the late President Ronald Reagan said the dealmaking should surprise no one — and conservatives should stop griping about it.
"He went where he needed to go to get the deal done — and that's exactly what he did," Reagan said.
"If you need 60 votes, you're going to need the Democrats, and that's where he went, and I think that ultimately it could be a very good thing for Donald Trump as we go into tax reform and getting taxes done."
We will see
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