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    Nope. Picked her as the more centrist candidate over Sanders, but if the nutters on the right are going to go full Trump that gives me a lot more freedom to vote whatever the . Hillary was, for all her faults, the best qualified candidate in terms of knowledge and experience in modern history to be president. I think she would have made an excellent president.

    That said, I would not vote for her again. If she runs she will lose, and lose badly in any primary, because many Democrats, as I do, blame her for Trump, and she will never live that down.

    The next few years will see a host of new blood in the Democratic party emerge. Booker, Warren, Castro, just to name a few. We will have a host of good candidates to choose from in the primaries. I look forward to it.


    I think the OP had it as a what if type of question if in some bizzaro type of nightmare scenario it came down to Hillary and Trump again.

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    thankfully, hillary is not going to give us that option, but the DNC still could if they went with a clinton-like candidate. that would be a problem because the biggest obstacle to defeating trump is the ideological rift within the democratic party. do the democrats wish to stay very centrist (although hillary was, arguably, right of center) or do they want to become more progressive (policy wise, not in regards to how they want to market themselves)?

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    thankfully, hillary is not going to give us that option, but the DNC still could if they went with a clinton-like candidate.
    I can't think of any realistic nominee that has anything close to Clinton's baggage.

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    I can't think of any realistic nominee that has anything close to Clinton's baggage.
    I can't think of a politician in duty today that has her baggage. 5 Fed Investigations is hard to top. Trump might by the time he's done in office, but doubtful.

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    with all her corruption out in the open, and a bunch still hidden, you would vote for her again? you're what's wrong with this nation!
    Meh. The Clinton foundation spends the vast majority of its funds on actual charity work. If "corruption" is large donations to vaccinations and clean water, I am fine with that.

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    I think the OP had it as a what if type of question if in some bizzaro type of nightmare scenario it came down to Hillary and Trump again.
    Ah.

    Talk about a no-brainer.

    I have had it up to here with the cheeto-faced buffoonery of the last few months. Shame on the Republican party. My only comfort is the knowledge that they are strapping themselves to the flaming sack of they picked.

    Good riddance, IMO.

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    The democrat establishment is short on contenders. Shes old but Trump is the same age and Bernies even older. I voted Bernie and Trump this cycle based solely on TPP, and I will vote Bernie again but in a general election mirroring 2016 I would probably vote Hillary this time around.

    Do any Hillary voters see themselves supporting Hillary in 2020 if she once again becomes the de facto Democrat candidate?
    Biden, Hillary, Warren, a Castro, whoever the Clinton/Heinz cabal props up this time or any number people are possibilities. Remember Obama came out from nowhere and won twice easily.

    The Dems basically told anyone who was paying attention that Clinton was going to be the next nominee when she was appointed SoS. The incessant GOP attacks for 8 years worked. You hear a lot of people parroting them in this thread. They aren't showing their hand nor should they considering it is the people that are supposed to choose not them. They ran the most undemocratic primary I can recall last year.

    We should have had President Sanders now.

    Anywho, Texas takes meaning out of a POTUS vote. Most of the time it is pointless to dem primary too. I have not in my lifetime. As such I will likely do as I have done for the same period of time: vote third party.

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    lmao delusional.... you libs play make believe way too much. before trump ran he was a successful biz man and growing up i must've heard his name a million times as if he was the "american dream". then he ran for office and he became a know nothing hack who's racist, etc by the left and some on the right. what changed?

    your hate for him is hilarious considering he hasn't done much yet except quite a bit of success and very little failure up to this point but your hatred is so blind you can't even see an inkling of good in him. it's the same for those who support him and what they're labeled by the left just for supporting him. it's ridiculous! as well, the left wants no debate and just wants to "shame! shame! shame!", "racist nazi!", etc... your side sucks and the other side is mostly two face because we really are in a drama played out by one side(right & left together).

    with all known about hrc up to this point it cracks me up to think people still take none of her corruption in consideration. it's, "anyone but trump but mainly just want hrc!". leftists are loser lemmings and i hope they all walk off a cliff.

    as for the right, screw them too.

    btw, you choose marxism and when the next election rolls around.... i will vote and it won't be for your sore loser!

    PS: dems are investigating the bs RUSSIA crap... dems! now tell me if that's not one sided. hrc, podestas pedo ass, and the like have ties to the ukraine, russia, saudi arabia, qatar, etc... where's that investigation at?
    The saddest part of the Las Vegas tragedy is that you weren’t in it.

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    So if a Dem centrist and a progressive run against each other in the primary, who will the Dem establishment support? Doesn't the same problem with the super-delegates still exist? Who exactly runs the Democratic party - is it Schumer, Pelosi, Obama in the background or do the Clintons still have major influence?

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    lmao delusional.... you libs play make believe way too much. before trump ran he was a successful biz man and growing up i must've heard his name a million times as if he was the "american dream". then he ran for office and he became a know nothing hack who's racist, etc by the left and some on the right. what changed?

    your hate for him is hilarious considering he hasn't done much yet except quite a bit of success and very little failure up to this point but your hatred is so blind you can't even see an inkling of good in him. it's the same for those who support him and what they're labeled by the left just for supporting him. it's ridiculous! as well, the left wants no debate and just wants to "shame! shame! shame!", "racist nazi!", etc... your side sucks and the other side is mostly two face because we really are in a drama played out by one side(right & left together).

    with all known about hrc up to this point it cracks me up to think people still take none of her corruption in consideration. it's, "anyone but trump but mainly just want hrc!". leftists are loser lemmings and i hope they all walk off a cliff.

    as for the right, screw them too.

    btw, you choose marxism and when the next election rolls around.... i will vote and it won't be for your sore loser!

    PS: dems are investigating the bs RUSSIA crap... dems! now tell me if that's not one sided. hrc, podestas pedo ass, and the like have ties to the ukraine, russia, saudi arabia, qatar, etc... where's that investigation at?
    5 figure Republican. Marxists caused me to get calf tats!

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    5 figure Republican. Marxists caused me to get calf tats!
    Cubicle boy trying to use the elitist class talk as if he's not a middle class worker.

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    After seeing the GOP's complete and total opposition when Obama implemented Romneycare partisan gridlock would have been an extremely safe bet under a Clinton presidency.
    Eyup.

    Clinton's election would have meant near total paralysis.

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    Seems like what we have anyway. Has a single democrat senator crossed over on a single vote of consequence in the senate?
    Why would they? The GOP has drawn up all of its proposals behind closed doors refusing to take any input from Democrats or transparency as to what the their bills would consist of.

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    The saddest part of the Las Vegas tragedy is that you weren’t in it.

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    And you call me delusional.... ok lol And for the umpteenth time I am not a Hillary supporter by far. She was the nominee, I supported her end of story. I would vote for Bush 2 before I would vote for that idiot we have there now. He is a disgrace to the office and we are literally a laughing stock around the world because of this moron.
    a laughing stock to who exactly? germany, uk, etc??? you mean the open border losers who are destroying their own countries daily? or better yet, the 3rd world countries and the like? wgaf?!

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    Meh. The Clinton foundation spends the vast majority of its funds on actual charity work. If "corruption" is large donations to vaccinations and clean water, I am fine with that.
    you mean like chelsea's wedding and liuke 5% to Haiti? lmao!

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    The saddest part of the Las Vegas tragedy is that you weren’t in it.
    the saddest part of LV and the like is the fact that it's ridiculous and unwarranted. you wishing for my life to be taken is your own loser mentality and the hate you project is sickening. you're an online troll, what's new and what's not to expect from your ilk. keep living that sad existence of a life filled with hate behind your pc screen.

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    5 figure Republican. Marxists caused me to get calf tats!
    you keep throwing this 5 figure bs around... there's plenty of great people in this world that don't scrape past a 5 figure income and yet you think you're holier than thou because you look down on us who struggle and hope for a better tomorrow while working our asses off. not sure what your income is and don't really give a because measuring is lame! let me guess, you're just so important and so wealthy you spend most your time online.

    ps: how am i a republican? if i voted for face obama twice before, how's that make me a republican? back then though, i wasn't following politics and didn't really give a damn who i voted for. now, i won't vote for anyone unless change and hope actually comes with a face i can trust and believe in. our last candidate's didn't prove such things to me so i sat back and watched all you losers vote instead. now i am watching you losers cry daily which brings me nothing but joy.

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    Cubicle boy trying to use the elitist class talk as if he's not a middle class worker.
    indeed he is. no rich assholes would dare waste their lives on ST so that fuzzy loser can keep taking orders from his numerous high ranking managers while i sit at my own business happy with the pay i make as i do what i love to do for work.

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    Why would they? The GOP has drawn up all of its proposals behind closed doors refusing to take any input from Democrats or transparency as to what the their bills would consist of.
    cough cough dreamers lmao so transparent and within the written law.

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    cough cough dreamers lmao so transparent and within the written law.
    So you're not denying that everything I said was true? Got it.

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    We should have had President Sanders now.
    yeah two-face bernie and let's get his corrupt investigated wife in on the admin too! screw bernie!

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    So you're not denying that everything I said was true? Got it.
    i'm denying you know anything at all except the written script by the left. keep acting like you know anything at all. it's quite comical.

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    i'm denying you know anything at all except the written script by the left. keep acting like you know anything at all. it's quite comical.
    So is what I said true or false? It's a simple question.

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    So is what I said true or false? It's a simple question.
    you can keep guessing my answer considering it's pretty clear already. comprehension isn't a skill of yours either huh? chalk that up on the board too for the idiot righty over here.

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