Astonishing FAILURE: Patty Mills first 8 games of the 17-18 season

[vy65]

Spurs fans keep saying Pau and Patty won’t finish out their contracts in SA. I’d love to hear the details of the trades that are sending those two assholes out of town.

[MaNu4Tres]

Beyond frustrating.

It was an easy decision to let him walk.. smh.

[ElNono]

great post by OP, tbh... thanks

[MaNu4Tres]

Our best hope is Patty keeps sucking so Pop has no choice but to sit him. If Patty improves his play to a small degree, Pop will still play him -- even though he's fools gold.

I hope he keeps sucking ass tbh..

[dabom]

Our best hope is Patty keeps sucking so Pop has no choice but to sit him. If Patty improves his play to a small degree, Pop will still play him -- even though he's fools gold.

I hope he keeps sucking ass tbh..

What do you think the pg rotation will look towards the end of the season?

[MaNu4Tres]

What do you think the pg rotation will look towards the end of the season?

Who knows?

Probably TP and Mills because Pop is Pop and both will probably show flashes once every 5 games and that's okay because they are elite in corporate knowledge and culture -- those two attributes rank #1 and #2 in Pops head.

[dabom]

Who knows?

Probably TP and Mills because Pop is Pop and both will probably show flashes once every 5 games and that's okay because they are elite in corporate knowledge and culture -- those two attributes rank #1 and #2 in Pops head.

It doesn't end with porker starting.

[MaNu4Tres]

If it were me, I'd ship Patty asap and free up minutes for Paul, Murray, Forbes. Then see which players make progress from now til May and stick with that player or player(s).

[hater]

Our best hope is Patty keeps sucking so Pop has no choice but to sit him. If Patty improves his play to a small degree, Pop will still play him -- even though he's fools gold.

I hope he keeps sucking ass tbh..

Mills in 2014 and even 2013 was ing great

Too bad this mills is nothungry because he ate hamburgers all summer

[MaNu4Tres]

It doesn't end with porker starting.

There's too many unknown variables and too much inconsistency right now at the position to make a solid guess. Knowing Pop though, TP and Patty are the favorites regardless of their play.

[daslicer]

The I told you so's are annoying. We aren't the ones who gave Patty the contract, that's on the front office. Some of us just choose to support the team regardless and not about it. It's sports, and it's intended to be entertainment. If you're a fan and you're getting legitimately upset because the team you support handed out a bad contract than maybe you should reevaluate why it has such a major impact on your life. I get it, Patty Mills sucks and he has a terrible contract, now can we stop ing about it and just see what happens?

It's ST these fans need a whipping boy for the Spurs failures. Granted Mills has been terrible and the contract was bad I do find it funny how they are now bashing him when a lot of these clowns were screaming a year ago that he needs to start over Parker. It's comical overall to see ST not only going crazy over Mills, but Gasol,LMA, and Gay. I have never seen that much overload of hatred and venom on ST for multiple players. Usually it's reserved for 1 player every year.

[tholdren]

Back on July 1, I posted this:



So 10% into the season, what has happened so far in this small but disturbing sample size?

Well, statistically, this is by far the worst season of his career (qualifying minimum of 40 minutes total in a season, cutting out his briefly played rookie year).

career low fg% of 31%

career low 3pt % of 26.7%

career low 2pt % of 35.5%

career low rebounds per 36 of 1.8, same per 100 possessions at 2.4. I would argue this reflects his fatness and loss of speed hurting his hustle to grab and go. His career high unsurprisingly was 13-14.

tied for career low in steals per 36 in 1.2, and per 100 possessions career low by itself at 1.6 Same with the rebounds I suspect, and again his career high was in 13-14.

career low in points per 36, BY FAR, with 9.5.. Next lowest was 14.9 in 15-16. Also lowest by far by 100 possessions

career lows in PER (4.4), true shooting (39.3%), win shares (-0.2), and BPM box plus minus (-6.4)

But don't worry, he says "There’s no pressure to perform".

League wide he's doing awful things. Going by ESPN's Hollinger advanced stats:

12th worst of 315 qualified players in PER

3rd worst of 315 qualified players in VALUE ADDED

Tied for 3rd worst of 315 qualified players in ESTIMATED WINS ADDED

Does that sound like a player who should be made what might be the highest paid back-up point guard in the league for 4 years?

And I don't have much hope that he'll get much better. Sure, he might raise his shooting percentages. , against the Warriors he shot 2-6 from 3 and raised his yearly average.

But the reason I fear he won't improve in a meaningful way, besides his weight, at ude, bad defensive tools and age, is the reason I outlined in my post from July.

And that is Manu Ginobili.

Manu is also having the worst year of his career, and in some categories only worse in his rookie year.

Worst PER, Worst True Shooting, Worst win share, Worst BPM, Worst VORP.

Worst 3pt %, Worst 2pt %, Worst rebounds/36, 2nd Worst after rookie in Assists per 36, 2nd Worst after rookie points per 36, 2nd Worst steals per 36

Manu, understandably, is just about done. He'll have some ups, lots of downs, but he's not really a good impact player anymore, not like he was even 3 years ago. He's not a 6th man candidate. He can't do Patty's job anymore, not well enough to help anyway. He's coming off a playoff run that he began with four straight scoreless games and shot a Mills-esque 22% from 3 for the postseason.

Manu won't be doing much better the rest of the way, he's on his way out. And Simmons could have been that guy. He's been that guy for Orlando, they run through him on second units. He showed with the Spurs that he could beat his own man off the dribble, get to the rim, finish, pass, use a pick, pass, penetrate, pull up, shoot ... Not as well as 6th man Manu, but better than any other Spur currently playing.

Without that player next to him, Mills is ... well ... a highly paid 6 foot fat aging shooting guard who can't run an offense, can't penetrate, can't defend, can't make plays, and now can't shoot.

Good news though. His contract reportedly had 2 million in unlikely incentives. So his 4/50 deal is probably only 4/48.

No . You lose your 2 best offensive players, and the only 2 that take it to the rim. What do you expect from a 40 year old and a role player, who went from 3rd or 4th and 6th option to the perimeter option? Dont be so dumb. Additionally its 8 games. Re evaluate in 2 months

[SAGirl]

He needs to get in shape. If he gains 15 more pounds then he is going to look like the old version of anthony anderson.

The blackish version of anthony anderson is slimmer than patty.

I had to look up who you meant...

[MaNu4Tres]

Mills in 2014 and even 2013 was ing great

Too bad this mills is nothungry because he ate hamburgers all summer

Patty was behind Cojo AND NEAL in 2013.

Patty in 2014 was fine at the small niche he played -- padding leads with spurts of great shooting. In 2014, outside of OKC, the games were so lopsided that Spurs didn't really feel his ineffectiveness on defense because they had huge leads and he just added to those with streak shooting.

[dabom]

There's too many unknown variables and too much inconsistency right now at the position to make a solid guess. Knowing Pop though, TP and Patty are the favorites regardless of their play.

Well no . Patty rang us in 2014. Tony's body can't handle a starting position. That's fact. Unless Pop tries again and he gets hurt again, and we never ing improve as a team cohesion wise. You don't wing it in the NBA. A lot of ya need to understand that. It's a job and they need to know who they are playing with and what times they're gonna be playing. Shifting all the players all the time isn't good. Ever. People need to stop thinking like that. Makes me think ya don't know enough basketball to understand that simple idea.

[hater]

[MaNu4Tres]

Well no . Patty rang us in 2014. Tony's body can't handle a starting position. That's fact. Unless Pop tries again and he gets hurt again, and we never ing improve as a team cohesion wise. You don't wing it in the NBA. A lot of ya need to understand that. It's a job and they need to know who they are playing with and what times they're gonna be playing. Shifting all the players all the time isn't good. Ever. People need to stop thinking like that. Makes me think ya don't know enough basketball to understand that simple idea.

2014 will be 4 years ago now. DIaw and Splitter were more important that run anyway. By your logic, what the lets bring them back because knowledge and culture and 2014!

Trading a small niche role player won't change a damn thing. Spurs wouldn't skip a beat. Duncan retired and Spurs didn't blink... the foundation is too strong.

[tholdren]

That looks.like pacman

[dabom]

2014 will be 4 years ago now. DIaw and Splitter were more important that run anyway, by your logic -- what the lets bring them back because knowledge and culture and 2014.

Trading a small niche role player won't change a damn thing. Spurs wouldn't skip a beat. Duncan retired and Spurs didn't blink... the foundation is too strong.

Those guys are injury prone pussies. What does that have to do with a player in his prime? Are you dumb brah?

That small niche role player is the best player for Kawhi. Whether you like to admit or not. Facts are facts. And he gets paid 1/11 of the cap.

You are not getting anything for that ing price you dumb .

[vy65]

Those guys are injury prone pussies. What does that have to do with a player in his prime? Are you dumb brah?

That small niche role player is the best player for Kawhi. Whether you like to admit or not. Facts are facts. And he gets paid 1/11 of the cap.

You are not getting anything for that ing price you dumb .

The only thing “prime” about 50 is his PER of 3.

[dabom]

The only thing “prime” about 50 is his PER of 3.

Ok, beta cuck, you got my attention. What do you want pussy ?

[vy65]

Ok, beta cuck, you got my attention. What do you want pussy ?

Dgaf about your “attention,” but while you’re here, maybe you could tell us why you suck the of literally one of the worst basketball players in the L.

[dabom]

Dgaf about your “attention,” but while you’re here, maybe you could tell us why you suck the of literally one of the worst basketball players in the L.

So nothing?

Keep stalking me. I got a lot of fans.

[coachmac87]

2014 will be 4 years ago now. DIaw and Splitter were more important that run anyway. By your logic, what the lets bring them back because knowledge and culture and 2014!

Trading a small niche role player won't change a damn thing. Spurs wouldn't skip a beat. Duncan retired and Spurs didn't blink... the foundation is too strong.

The foundation that you and others have been ing about lately

[vy65]

So nothing?

Keep stalking me. I got a lot of fans.

No there was something, you just missed it per/par