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    And yet, fresh sanctions will be implemented in January.
    as if Trump has a ing say in the matter

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    as if Trump has a ing say in the matter
    Yeah, it’s not like he signed it or anything.

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    Yeah, it’s not like he signed it or anything.
    What the does it matter if he signs it when the vote was 98-2 in the senate and 419-3 in the house?

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    Yeah, it’s not like he signed it or anything.
    as if refusing to sign it would change anything.

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    TSAbot is back!

    Why won't you name the source of your theory?

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    Darrins getting on per par. TSA melting down after he didn't get what he was looking for.

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    And yet, fresh sanctions will be implemented in January.
    Didn't read the signing statements, did you?

    Basically:

    "these sanctions are uncons utional, and the executive branch will drag its feet as much as possible". Written in such a way as to maximize wriggle room to ignore them as much as possible.

    I would provide links, but we all know you won't read them.

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    Yeah, it’s not like he signed it or anything.
    Sanctions bill passed with veto-proof majorities. Vetoing it, and having that veto overridden would make him look weak, something he does not want to do.

    Do you want the vote counts? Do you want statements by Trump saying that looking weak is bad? Do you understand what I posted here?

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    What the does it matter if he signs it when the vote was 98-2 in the senate and 419-3 in the house?
    Maybe Darrin needs a link to the cons ution.

    2: Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the United States; If he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his Objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such Reconsideration two thirds of that House shall agree to pass the Bill, it shall be sent, together with the Objections, to the other House, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and if approved by two thirds of that House, it shall become a Law.
    Maybe he doesn't understand the math.

    DarrinS, you do understand that 98-2 is more than two thirds right? So is 419-3.

    https://www.online-calculator.com/

    There is a link to an online calculator. You want to divide 98 by 100 to get the decimal. If it is greater than .67 (which is what you get when you divide 2 by 3 to find out what the decimal is for two thirds), then Congress can override the president's veto.

    DarrinS, if you need help with decimals, let me know, and I can post a link to some basic math tutorial websites.
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    Here's why Deutsche Bank may be such a big deal.



    Stephanie Ruhle knows of what she speaks, in full self disclosure she stated that she worked for Deutsche Bank for 8 years.

    She pointed out that after the Russian ruble collapse in 1998, most major banks flew the Russian coop, they wanted nothing more to do with the place.

    Deutsche Bank stayed, and played heavily.

    Stephanie also stated that the bank is less averse to taking a risk than some other major banks.

    Deutsche Bank has been and still is a major player in Russia, and does business with other Russian banks.

    What Ruhle thinks that Mueller may be looking for is this. Trump has $300M in outstanding loans with Deutsche Bank.

    Deutsche bank regularly deals with Russian banks, including VEB, which is under EU and US sanctions.

    Did Deutsche Bank, for either nefarious or completely innocent reasons transfer anhy of Trump's business debt over to any Russian bank, including banks currently under US sanctions?

    But it does place Trump in jeopardy on two fronts.

    The first, lesser one is this. Having a bank owned or controlled by a foreign government, in this case Russia holding paper on him could place him in violation of the emoluments clause of the US cons ution. It is possible that he may be forced to liquidate any assets that the paper touches. But that's the least of his worries.

    Much more importantly, if a Russian state owned bank holds a good chunk of Trump debt, he and or Jared Kushner are compromised.

    The Trump campaign would not have to offer the Russian government a quid pro quo for their assistance in the election, the Russians already have it.

    They could tell Trump, "We'll get you in. Once we do,

    you either do as we say, or we'll call in your notes, and maybe be just careless enough about it so that the press learns of it."

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/12/5/1721494/-Here-s-why-Deutsche-Bank-may-be-such-a-big-deal

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    Yeah, it’s not like he signed it or anything.
    Haha, exactly! He should just rip it up in front of the cameras! in Russia conspiri s!

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    Haha, exactly! He should just rip it up in front of the cameras! in Russia conspiri s!

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    Time to throw Hope Hicks under the bus.

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    TSAbot is back!

    Why won't you name the source of your theory?
    I enjoy your lazy, pathetic begging.

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    I enjoy your lazy, pathetic begging.
    What is the source of your theory?

    Simple question.

    Nothing fancy.

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    What is the source of your theory?

    Simple question.

    Nothing fancy.
    If you really cared you’d stop being lazy and look through your own post history and find it. But no, you’ll just continue your pathetic begging.

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    The cartoon boutons posted actually shows the stupidity of the Russia collusion conspiracy.

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    If you really cared you’d stop being lazy and look through your own post history and find it. But no, you’ll just continue your pathetic begging.
    I'll just ask you a simple question you are dodging for some reason. It's easier and you will definitely answer promptly and accurately as always.

    What is the source of your theory?

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    The cartoon boutons posted actually shows the stupidity of the Russia collusion conspiracy.
    Explain.

    I think the cartoon is faily straight forward in showing the naivete' and stupidity that is Trump and his minions.

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    Explain.

    I think the cartoon is faily straight forward in showing the naivete' and stupidity that is Trump and his minions.
    “Russia, if you’re listening...”

    Exactly what someone would do who had Russian back channels.

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    “Russia, if you’re listening...”

    Exactly what someone would do who had Russian back channels.
    Poor Darrins is so lost.

    Thinking Trump is smart in any capacity.

    Same guy who admitted to obstruction of justice twice. Once on TV and the second time not 4 days ago on twitter of all places. Darrins

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    “Russia, if you’re listening...”

    Exactly what someone would do who had Russian back channels.
    A back channel like a secret adoption meeting?

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    I'll just ask you a simple question you are dodging for some reason. It's easier and you will definitely answer promptly and accurately as always.

    What is the source of your theory?
    So. ing. Lazy.

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    So. ing. Lazy.
    I don't want to get it wrong. It's much easier to just ask you since you have never dodged and questions and are not currently dodging this simple question I have asked you several times.

    Maybe I just worded it wrong.

    Are you having problems understanding my question to you?

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