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Nothing will beat the hype of Phantom. People waiting a couple decades for that to come out. That's what made it extra sad, that they messed it up so badly. Mistakes would be arguably more understandable now at their current production line pace.
yeah that's pretty bad tbh. i don't even remember much of the prequels, but I'm not a Star wars guy at all
i just remember the insane hype of Episode I and the fight at the end of it was actually awesome at the time, imo. How did the hype of this new one compare to Phantom Menace?
Nothing will beat the hype of Phantom. People waiting a couple decades for that to come out. That's what made it extra sad, that they messed it up so badly. Mistakes would be arguably more understandable now at their current production line pace.
Out of curiousity, what was the general consensus on why it was so bad? I only saw each of the prequels once when I was young and didn't really understand everything. tbh 2, 3 were sorta boring and blurred together. You could post some random YouTube clip from either movie and I wouldn't be able to tell which one it was from (other than when he transforms into Vader of course)
For some reason though, I actually liked 1 a lot. Probably a lot to do with the fact that I was only 9 or 10 and thought it was cool for re ed reasons like the pod race and darth maul
Poe serves a better purpose than Finn. What is Finn's purpose other than shouting "Reyyyyyyy" . Finn had a chance to go out like a pimp and that stupid girl shoved him out the way. Pointless.
Phantom Menace is easily the best of the ty prequels. Had a badass villain and Liam Neeson, and most importantly no Hayden Christiansen. Most people hated it because of Jar Jar Binks, but for me it’s easy to tune out all his scenes.Out of curiousity, what was the general consensus on why it was so bad? I only saw each of the prequels once when I was young and didn't really understand everything. tbh 2, 3 were sorta boring and blurred together. You could post some random YouTube clip from either movie and I wouldn't be able to tell which one it was from (other than when he transforms into Vader of course)
For some reason though, I actually liked 1 a lot. Probably a lot to do with the fact that I was only 9 or 10 and thought it was cool for re ed reasons like the pod race and darth maul
Revenge of the Sith had cool action sequences tbh. Phantom menace had the great ending but he was overall a ty villain who’s character boiled down to “ i look really cool”
Luke said that Kylo Ren burned the Jedi training temple down and killed most of the students, but brought some of them with him.
Where were the ones that he brought with him?
Weren't some of them the royal guards?
So the ones that Rey and him fought after killing the Snoke were them... yeah that makes sense. They were pretty good fighters.
The Knights Of Ren probably
Yeah... oversight on my part.
Then tell us the guards are Knights of Ren. Make that an important part of the story early on so when Kylo takes them on down, it has that much more impact. Make it to where now he's turning on and fighting his own crew. Instead it's just, hey he beat some dudes in red suits.
Just fails all the way around in this movie.
Nobody said the red guards were the Knights Of Ren.
I know they didn't. But that's my point. If they were, it's a waste. If the weren't, then the fight against them was pointless eye candy. If we knew how tough the guards were, if they gave even a couple of lines of dialogue to explain, then it was a chance to show just how powerful Kylo is. Instead, there is Rey, also destroying them, and actually doing better the Kylo because he was in a choke hold.
My biggest problem with this movie, and there is so much wrong with it, is we don't know who's skill level is where. Kylo should be way more powerful than Rey because he was ACTUALLY jedi trained by Luke, and Snoke was also a mentor, which should make him that much more menacing. Rey should be growing to get where Kylo is. Instead, she has yet to be bested in anything. She's just too good at everything with zero training. She's already gone toe to toe twice vs Kylo.
It was somewhat ok in the first movie because it was hinted she has some lineage. Why else would Luke's lightsaber be calling to her? But this movie says she's nothing yet she's so powerful. It doesn't add up. Rian was so concerned with throwing everyone off the trail with every important plot point that it ended have no plot.
Abrams is going to have to pull Reys lineage back into the story to fix that in the next movie. Otherwise, we have no reason to care about Rey because she always win.
Nah. Poe has no point in the story. Finn is used improperly (and especially was in this last movie), but he's still clearly the other main character. The most significant thing Poe does is be that guy that has those awkward romantic moments with Rey.
Why do you want everything explained? It's not like anything was explained at all in the original movies. Luke was a Jedi Knight after a few scenes after carrying Yoda around and getting scared in a cave, force ghosts appeared out of nowhere.
Just go back and watch Phantom. It's hard to sit through ten minutes of any of it. Even most hardcore Stars Wars junkies tend to concede that. Just very poorly done.Out of curiousity, what was the general consensus on why it was so bad? I only saw each of the prequels once when I was young and didn't really understand everything. tbh 2, 3 were sorta boring and blurred together. You could post some random YouTube clip from either movie and I wouldn't be able to tell which one it was from (other than when he transforms into Vader of course)
For some reason though, I actually liked 1 a lot. Probably a lot to do with the fact that I was only 9 or 10 and thought it was cool for re ed reasons like the pod race and darth maul
But I wish George Lucas would have just stuck with his original direction for Jar Jar. He just needed to not make him so down annoying / tone him down in further movies. But instead, he suc bed to all the Jar Jar hate.
Everything? Lets start with some things.
Luke was not a Jedi until he beat Vader at the end of Return of the Jedi. He could barely lift rocks after training with Yoda, he sure a wasnt moving mountains hours later like Rey. So yes, some explaination is warranted.
He wasn't anywhere near as powerful as Rey, but whatever.
The movie was entertaining but a lot of it was stupid. Finn and Rose's sideplot served no purpose whatsoever. Luke didn't teach Rey anything and died for no reason. Poe should be in handcuffs. Leia's Superman moment was embarrassing. Kylo Ren talks about doing away with the past, but then he just keeps doing what past Sith Lords do.
Fine, how is Rey so powerful? Lineage would've been acceptable, but Rian Johnson purposefully on that too. I don't need an explaination for everything. But for the MAIN Hero, you do so you can care enough to go on the journey with them. Its just a problem with alot of movies nowadays.
Take the original Karate Kid for instance. By the time you get to the climax fight with Johnny and the Cobra Kai, you are all in emotionally. You are taking those blows with Daniel. You feel his need to overcome. If Laruso had just run around the whole movie kicking everyones ass, never losing a fight, you wouldn't give two s about his fight with Johnny at the end. But he went through to get to the point at the end and you went through it with him.
JJ Abrams is going to have to walk that "you're a nobody" plot line back, or find a way to give legitimacy to her powers.
Not arguing with you btw, just having a discussion.
She's so powerful because the Force needs balance. You have two pretty powerful Sith/Dark Side users, and one Jedi who has closed himself off from the force, and another untrained Force sensitive in Leia? Maybe she's just an outlier. Personally, I think they had to break away from the everything is about Skywalker lineage at some point, it was getting a bit old. We don't really know anything about where Yoda, Kenobi, or any other Jedi came from lineage wise I don't think so I am not sure lineage needs to mean that much.
Where did Snoke come from and who trained him?
I'd imagine there will be more flashbacks in the next movie, maybe some more info about him.The Last Jedi Visual Dictionary has proved to be full of tantalizing facts about the Supreme Leader, but the latest revelation comes from The Last Jedi Visual Companion Magazine. As seen in a photo posted to Reddit, the first paragraph in Snoke’s entry confirms not only that the Supreme Leader is not of the Sith (which we already knew), but also that he has “at least one other apprentice.”
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