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    cp3 hasn't resigned with the rockets.

    mavs should see about moving barnes, matthews in the offseason... carlisle, high draft pick, cp3, lebron, dirk.

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    But if that is the only thing they are basing it on then they haven't been paying attention to what Pop and the Spurs have been saying.
    Let's revisit what they've been saying after the season.

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    Again, just speculation. People (not you, but others) are acting like his year and career are in jeopardy based just on speculation.

    And if he rehabs properly, it won't be something that he has to deal with his entire career.
    How many mysterious injuries has he had? Does he have a genetic disorder?

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    cp3 hasn't resigned with the rockets.

    mavs should see about moving barnes, matthews in the offseason... carlisle, high draft pick, cp3, lebron, dirk.
    Mavs has a ton of cap room coming. They just need to fire Carlisle and hire Fisdale. LBJ don’t want to play for Jim Carrey.

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    did you read the article or no?
    to create the space. you have to renounce all of your RFA, retire manu and stretch him, let all of your players with options opt out and leave and that still leaves with you with


    Here is what you propose:



    Even if you trade out a package of Gasol and Murray to some team that has the capspace to take him in, you still need to renounce all your RFA and have everyone opt out. That is the way I understood that article. I only quoted what' relevant to your specific point, but it's tough to understand without reading the article with the breakdown he gives.

    Edit: I understood the remaining 4 players in the roster to be: Kawhi, Lamarcus, Mills and Derrick White.

    That article sucks

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    When he said that tho, their record was 8-5. He returned when they were 19-8. Let's just hope it isn't too long this go around for him. He started to look better the more he played (naturally) so lets just hope that pain level gets to manageable level
    I am only concerned about how long it has really taken Kawhi to heal.

    He took months, let's say 4 months if you take September when training camp started, to play 15 minutes in a game for the first time this season... and I am taking September, but it's likely that it took him longer, since we don't know when exactly he started to feel pain, but he said it was in the summer, so his rehab might have been a lot longer than we know (and he didn't train with Dejounte and Kyle like he said he would, so we know he altered his summer training plans at some point).

    But, let's say September he was very injured. His teammates hadn't seen him at the training facility and he wasn't scrimmaging. He was not well at all. In November, he was seen with a very noticeable and heavy limp with difficulty even going up some stairs since it looked like he couldn't bend his leg. He was at least traveling with the team and it was obvious he was eager to return to play...

    He came back to play in December, with the 15 minutes stints... After 9 appearances, in a one month period, when they expected that he should start resuming a normal playing schedule including eliminating the 2 days rest in between games, he couldn't do it. Not only that, his pain was increasing. So, basically it's been 5 months (since September, but as I said it might be more) of rehab (that we know of).

    His protocol to come back was to slowly increase the workload and see how he handled it. I expect when he comes back it will be on a similar protocol. If that date is too close to the playoffs he won't have time to go through that protocol. Maybe he can do it, but based on what I have seen, it's also a possibility that he can't come back in time. He has been healing extremely slowly.

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    Now, I am no assuming Grant Hill or Penny or stuff like that. I am optimistic he will be back to himself... what I have doubts really is that his slow healing process will allow him to come back in time to be impactful this season.
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    I hope to be wrong... it's possible that he can come back with sufficient time to handle a full workload in time for the playoffs. We will just have to see how he recovers.

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    That article sucks
    it's the best explanation I have found of cap situations next summer.... if you don't like it, find me one better.

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    maybe he’d go to the knicks? i don’t see him going to the lakers. maybe jerry west could help clippers’ chances...

    he’s not going to golden state or boston. who else is there... sa/hou/okc. he wants to win imo. especially after he gets beat in the finals again.
    Somehow I don't see him coming west to battle 3/4 times a season with GSW, SA (with a healthy Kawhi next season), HOU, OKC and you can add Minnesota for his former nemesis Jimmy Butler who is balling this year.

    I am very bad on speculations that don't involve the Spurs, but I think he stays east... Philly? NYC? It has to be some east team IMO.

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    I don't see two control freaks like Lebron and Pop ever working together.
    People think the Dubs and Rockettes have volatile locker rooms.

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    How many mysterious injuries has he had? Does he have a genetic disorder?
    It's not a mysterious injury

    Its quadriceps Tendinopathy. That's been reported already.

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    he is coming to spurs, book it.
    and btw, I see so many spurs fan disliking the idea of LeBron coming here, lmao who you kidding? don't lie to yourself, you know you want him here too.
    If he comes here, then he's really gonna end up being remembered as one of the greats. He's gonna catch up to MJ..
    He is gonna win so many championships here in san Antonio. Just imagine, bringing the spurs to the finals, year after year...after year. ( That's what he does, he wills his team all the way to the finals.)
    AND, having a solid reliable bench and role players ( which he knows he will have with the spurs), I just don't see any of them letting him down in crunch time.
    Oh and yea, he'll be having a legit coach ( about damn time), and he can say good bye to that piece of , pathetic excuse for a coach tyronn lue.
    His legacy would be cemented. Think about it. And also, he's only 33 years old. Let say he plays till 40 like Duncan. That's another 7 possible years of getting a ring.. ample of time.
    And for once, us die hard fan of spurs... we'll be feared again for our dominance, and wont be the underdog anymore. Nice time to be a spurs fan imo

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    I am only concerned about how long it has really taken Kawhi to heal.

    He took months, let's say 4 months if you take September when training camp started, to play 15 minutes in a game for the first time this season... and I am taking September, but it's likely that it took him longer, since we don't know when exactly he started to feel pain, but he said it was in the summer, so his rehab might have been a lot longer than we know (and he didn't train with Dejounte and Kyle like he said he would, so we know he altered his summer training plans at some point).

    But, let's say September he was very injured. His teammates hadn't seen him at the training facility and he wasn't scrimmaging. He was not well at all. In November, he was seen with a very noticeable and heavy limp with difficulty even going up some stairs since it looked like he couldn't bend his leg. He was at least traveling with the team and it was obvious he was eager to return to play...

    He came back to play in December, with the 15 minutes stints... After 9 appearances, in a one month period, when they expected that he should start resuming a normal playing schedule including eliminating the 2 days rest in between games, he couldn't do it. Not only that, his pain was increasing. So, basically it's been 5 months (since September, but as I said it might be more) of rehab (that we know of).

    His protocol to come back was to slowly increase the workload and see how he handled it. I expect when he comes back it will be on a similar protocol. If that date is too close to the playoffs he won't have time to go through that protocol. Maybe he can do it, but based on what I have seen, it's also a possibility that he can't come back in time. He has been healing extremely slowly.

    ----------------------------------------------
    Now, I am no assuming Grant Hill or Penny or stuff like that. I am optimistic he will be back to himself... what I have doubts really is that his slow healing process will allow him to come back in time to be impactful this season.
    -----------------------------------------------
    I hope to be wrong... it's possible that he can come back with sufficient time to handle a full workload in time for the playoffs. We will just have to see how he recovers.
    Tendinopathy can be tricky. There is a lot of new information coming out in the past couple years regarding Tentinopathy. You have to be careful with how you treat it and how you load the tendon. Spurs are going the more cautious route to avoid making it a chronic issue. It should't take as long as it took to start the season because he has made significant progress since and hasn't had a set back according to the Spurs. I am hoping/guessing that he will be back sometime near or around the ASG. But we will just have to see. Either way, I care about his long term health over rushing him back too soon.

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    Somehow I don't see him coming west to battle 3/4 times a season with GSW, SA (with a healthy Kawhi next season), HOU, OKC and you can add Minnesota for his former nemesis Jimmy Butler who is balling this year.

    I am very bad on speculations that don't involve the Spurs, but I think he stays east... Philly? NYC? It has to be some east team IMO.
    his whole career i never imaged him coming west. not until now and that's because of the warriors. i can see him making the jump because joining a top tier team in the west would yield a better team than one in the east with him on it.

    i think lebron to ny would be cool but i think he'll wanna join a team that's already almost there.

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    As far as the original subject of this thread goes, I would love to see LeBron sign with the Spurs! If he is willing, you trade whoever it takes not named Kawhi to make room for him to sign. I could see it happen but am not getting my hopes up.

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    That article sucks
    What sucks about it? It's pretty spot on, not that this is the only way to get a max slot, but the differences would be minor.

    Houston would be hard pressed to clear a max slot too, even more difficult than the Spurs.

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    This has a chance of happening because the Spurs are the only safe team for LeBron to bolt from the Cavaliers if he so chooses. Leonard, James, Aldridge he would still have a big 3 in place and it wouldn't look bad in the public eye signing with San Antonio. Not likely but it's possible since he hasn't signed an extension with Cavs.

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    Yes, the Spurs aren't idiots. You take Lebron, even an older Lebron, because he is that good. At the same time, I don't know if the Spurs can handle the type of control over a franchise that Lebron demands. He isn't a Ball-like distraction, but no doubt he and his buddies run the Cavs. Not sure Pop would allow any of that as he is a control freak as well.
    True, but has Lebron ever had a coach/management that he actually respected?

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    True, but has Lebron ever had a coach/management that he actually respected?
    He respects Pop, so...

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    As far as the original subject of this thread goes, I would love to see LeBron sign with the Spurs! If he is willing, you trade whoever it takes not named Kawhi to make room for him to sign. I could see it happen but am not getting my hopes up.
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    anything other than this is bs

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    anything other than this is bs

    Shows how lousy/stupid the average "fan" here has become. The GOAT of this generation matched up with the team of the last 20 years? You do it. All day, every day.

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    He respects Pop, so...
    And Pop would be the only reason why he’d even consider coming here...

    Rockets are extremely appealing with Paul and Harden but if Pop and LeBron joined forces it’d put the fear of God into the league..including the Warriors.

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    But...

    Lebron
    Green
    Kawhi
    Bertans/Gay
    Aldridge

    You forgot Patty.

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    And Pop would be the only reason why he’d even consider coming here...

    Rockets are extremely appealing with Paul and Harden but if Pop and LeBron joined forces it’d put the fear of God into the league..including the Warriors.

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    If for the minimum....why not?

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