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    Like I’ve said before I’m fine with Murray starting. AT some point Pop had to do it since the offense never improved enough with Mills/TP.

    But people acting like this is some automatic good thing are crazy to me. Is there potential? Of course. But Murray being better than tp/mills does not mean he’s been good. He hasn’t. He’s graded out as a non-starter level player so far.

    Let’s hope it works and Murray makes some serious gains on offense.
    he has elite defensive potential, is good on fast breaks, especially as a result of elite guard rebounding...he just needs to open up his scoring more to become a threat...this will make things easier for him when it comes to passing the ball

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    what's funny is that NO ONE would have said Vic Oladipo should be a starting PG for ANY team...the arguments against Murray sound like the same ones ppl had for Oladipo...ppl laughed at the Paul George trade...sometimes when you show confidence in a person and put them in the right environment, they show who they are meant to be...Murrray is much younger than Vic, so he has time to grow, but we havent been treating him right as a franchise...benched last year to end the season even after coming back from injury (didnt play a single game to finish the season)...thrust into the playoff lions den after a rookie season where he had VERY inconsistent minutes...benched during summer league...benched couple games into the season, and got less minutes than other players who played worse, or had horrendous stretches in games, yet gon consistent roles and minutes...we have shown a lot of disrespect and inconsistent roles to a 20/21 year old pg...of COURSE he is gonna have inconsistent performances...hopefully Pop isnt wishy washy and leaves him as the starter...we KNOW we wont win with Tony starting this year, so why not make a change and live with the results?

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    My dude Brazil warming up that sig.
    u should have yours already tbh...

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    Check out what he does here in Europe, he's the best player and his passing is amazing.

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    You have a very good point with Denver. They are desperate and possibly worse when it comes to PG play. They got Millsap over the summer so one knows that the FO is at least serious about trying to improve their roster and I also read at some point they wanted to take advantage of Jokic's last few cheap season (or seasons?)... anyways, I would not rule them out. They have assets and have pulled off some weird deals for Lyles and Plumlee.
    Upon review, Walker and Williams for Faried, Chandler, Barton, Mudiay doesn't work. Swap Batum for Williams and it does.

    Don't know if Nuggets would take the Batum albatross, but they could use an SF, especially if Chandler is being traded. Even if they would, the sticking point could be their wanting another asset to do so and Hornets balking.

    On the one hand, Nuggets are struggling and straddling a playoff spot. On the other hand, Murray is starting to "pop". Granted, he's more SG than PG, but with Harris entrenched at SG, do they want to turn him into a 6th man? Rockets make it work with Gordon, but he's not an upcoming player, Paul requires minute management at this point and Harden, unlike Harris, has enough size to guard plenty of SF's.

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    The starter

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    That's a good one.

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    Always on point.

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    of a game, but he also had a great game against Cleveland last year. He's gotta continue this, and the Spurs have to figure out their guard rotation going forward. Even if Pop is content with Parker/Mills/Manu off the bench, it still leaves a question of what to do with Forbes.

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    of a game, but he also had a great game against Cleveland last year. He's gotta continue this, and the Spurs have to figure out their guard rotation going forward. Even if Pop is content with Parker/Mills/Manu off the bench, it still leaves a question of what to do with Forbes.
    Agreed and the Cavs are one of the worst defensive teams in the league. Hopefully he can build off of this game.

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    Liked what I saw from Tony and Dejounte tonight

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    OP one of the most knowledgeable posters in this site, tbh...

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    Had a great game against Cleveland last year, and Isaiah Thomas ing sucks right now. Murray still has a long way to go, but he looks much more under control than he did earlier in the season.

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    OP one of the most knowledgeable posters in this site, tbh...
    It's hard being at the top.

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    It's hard being at the top.
    Pg w more tos than assists against one of the worst defensive teams in the league... wow

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    of a game, but he also had a great game against Cleveland last year. He's gotta continue this, and the Spurs have to figure out their guard rotation going forward. Even if Pop is content with Parker/Mills/Manu off the bench, it still leaves a question of what to do with Forbes.
    and Kyle...

    Dejounte is going to keep his spot. His upside is tantalizing, can't be ignored. They really should trade Mills tbh. I know some fans don't want to hear it and are tired of it. Doubt he's traded unless they really need to at some point like they traded Diaw and Tiago at some point, bc Spurs moved on.

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    and Kyle...

    Dejounte is going to keep his spot. His upside is tantalizing, can't be ignored. They really should trade Mills tbh. I know some fans don't want to hear it and are tired of it. Doubt he's traded unless they really need to at some point like they traded Diaw and Tiago at some point, bc Spurs moved on.
    Remember I told you long time ago that you can ask for basketball tips.

    Patty isn't getting traded.

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    It should be highlighted the Cavs are horrible, all of Danny, Kyle and Davis had dunks tonight... most of Dejounte's buckets were hustle plays ... took advantage of I.Thomas in every way. just some perspective

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    It should be highlighted the Cavs are horrible, all of Danny, Kyle and Davis had dunks tonight... most of Dejounte's buckets were hustle plays ... took advantage of I.Thomas in every way. just some perspective
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    of a game, but he also had a great game against Cleveland last year. He's gotta continue this, and the Spurs have to figure out their guard rotation going forward. Even if Pop is content with Parker/Mills/Manu off the bench, it still leaves a question of what to do with Forbes.

    Don't forget Kyle and Rudy when Kawhi gets back.

    Do you sit Mills to play Rudy at 4, Kyle at the back up 3, Manu at back up 2?

    If so, why not just have Forbes, Paul play the insurance role for pennies, instead of paying 11-12 mil for it?

    Moving forward, since TP probably getting 1+1 deal, and with White ready for a role as the back up SG, why allocate that much $ to an expendable piece? Not to mention, say DeJounte starts earning 30-33 minutes a night by next year? Then the back up minutes decrease even more. Sure it's nice to have depth, but spending 12 million on 3rd string depth is kind of ridiculous.

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    Trade Forbes... He is a dime a dozen and isn't a game changer for us

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    He didn't have 7 assists.

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