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    Well, even his seasoned MVP peer chose him in the Allstar draft. So take it for what its worth.

    He may not be top 5 yet, but he is top 10.

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    In OP's defense he's simply parroting a terrible take from a ty article.. saw the same proposal come up on my Flipboard feed

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    Jordan got to the league at age 21, he got the Bulls to the playoffs in all his seasons, got a better record each year and by season 4 he already had made the ECF. Giannis is on season 5 and he has yet to learn to shoot or make it past the first round in the only two times he got there.
    last year they lost games 5 and 6 to Toronto in games where he shot 12-18 for 30 points, and 13-23 for 34 points. his scoring ability was never the problem, so its re ed to point to his jump shooting ability is such a big factor for their team success. he shot 53.6% from the field in that whole series and even hit 40% of his threes

    Nobody was proclaiming Jordan to be a top 5 player in the World when he was losing on the first round, tbh.
    he had been named to 4 straight all-nba first teams, won 4 straight scoring les, been named DPOY, and had won a league mvp in the seasons preceding his first chip. so, i mean, yeah, he was already considered one of the greats

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    the hatred in Giannis is absolutely meaningless, I could understand if it was about the coward Durant who destroyed the balance of the league for at least 4 seasons, but that Greek is just amazing to watch

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    Jordan got to the league at age 21, he got the Bulls to the playoffs in all his seasons, got a better record each year and by season 4 he already had made the ECF. Giannis is on season 5 and he has yet to learn to shoot or make it past the first round in the only two times he got there.

    Nobody was proclaiming Jordan to be a top 5 player in the World when he was losing on the first round, tbh.
    what?

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    to be fair, really, how many people actually consider all-nba first team, scoring champion, DPOY, MVP players to be top 5?

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    last year they lost games 5 and 6 to Toronto in games where he shot 12-18 for 30 points, and 13-23 for 34 points. his scoring ability was never the problem, so its re ed to point to his jump shooting ability is such a big factor for their team success. he shot 53.6% from the field in that whole series and even hit 40% of his threes


    he had been named to 4 straight all-nba first teams, won 4 straight scoring les, been named DPOY, and had won a league mvp in the seasons preceding his first chip. so, i mean, yeah, he was already considered one of the greats
    Sneakely trying to change the conversation from "getting past the first round" to "winning your first championship".

    Well son, when Giannis does all the things you listed there that MJ did, we can start calling him a top 5 player. You happy?

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    the hatred in Giannis is absolutely meaningless, I could understand if it was about the coward Durant who destroyed the balance of the league for at least 4 seasons, but that Greek is just amazing to watch
    So now saying that Giannis isn't top 5 = hating the guy?

    " How can you not consider the player I like a top 5 player? You're such a hater "

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    Sneakely trying to change the conversation from "getting past the first round" to "winning your first championship".

    Well son, when Giannis does all the things you listed there that MJ did, we can start calling him a top 5 player. You happy?
    that's a ridiculous standard ... if giannis doesn't match jordan's accomplishments, he can't be a top 5 player in today's nba

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    So now saying that Giannis isn't top 5 = hating the guy?

    " How can you not consider the player I like a top 5 player? You're such a hater "
    because you just dismiss everything about him because "he cant make a jump shot"

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    to be fair, really, how many people actually consider all-nba first team, scoring champion, DPOY, MVP players to be top 5?
    Again, being purposely dishonest because he can't win an argument. Sad, tbh.

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    because you just dismiss everything about him because "he cant make a jump shot"
    I didn't dismiss anything. I just said that until he shows me more I can't place him over guys like Lebron, Durant, Kawhi, Curry, Harden, Westbrook and some others. So, no in the top 5.

    BTW, where do you rank Giannis, or are you arguing for the sake of arguing?

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    I didn't dismiss anything. I just said that until he shows me more I can't place him over guys like Lebron, Durant, Kawhi, Curry, Harden, Westbrook and some others. So, no in the top 5.

    BTW, where do you rank Giannis, or are you arguing for the sake of arguing?
    i have in comfortably in the top 10. i dont have him above lebron, kawhi, curry, durant. i think he's right there in the next tier with harden/westbrook, so somewhere between 5-7

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    Seriously sons, is such a crime to wait for the kid to start winning with some kind of consistency before proclaiming him the greatest thing since sliced bread?

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    i have in comfortably in the top 10. i dont have him above lebron, kawhi, curry, durant. i think he's right there in the next tier with harden/westbrook, so somewhere between 5-7
    Then what the are you arguing?

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    that's a ridiculous standard ... if giannis doesn't match jordan's accomplishments, he can't be a top 5 player in today's nba
    No, but he can start by at least getting one of those, tbh.

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    Then what the are you arguing?
    that your "he cant hit a jumpshot so i cant take him seriously" take is re ed

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    that your "he cant hit a jumpshot so i cant take him seriously" take is re ed
    I don't think I have said that, but anyways I have spent the last 10 to 15 posts on this thread making my point clear yet you continue to argue something you agree with.

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    Top 5 best Players right now. "I'm Starting a Team" Players:

    Top 4 no order, Kawhi, Lebron, Durant, Steph.

    Then we got 2 other MVP caliber players Russ and Harden.

    I don't see Giannis in the top 5.

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    I take that back. My top 6 can all lead a team.

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    I take that back. My top 6 can all lead a team.
    Frauden hasn't led . Morey would trade him for Giannis right now if he could.

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    Frauden hasn't led . Morey would trade him for Giannis right now if he could.
    Been in the top 3 conversation 3 years running. I still got to give him the nod over someone who hasn't don't jack.

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    All I know? When I saw him play the Spurs he looked on a whole nother level than anyone else on the floor. Even my wife said that guy is doing everything during that game. He plays that way regularly. I have him above Harden personally. Harden plays no D. Giannis will block your shot into the 3rd row.

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    Look, he's a top 10 player, but he's definitely not top 5 yet. Doesn't mean he won't be, or won't be soon, but I wouldn't take him if I could choose 5 players to take into the playoffs with me this season, he wouldn't be on my list. There's easily 5 players I'd take ahead of him, maybe more. He'd probably be in the 7-10 range for me.

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