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    I didn't specify Trump and clearly said all of this surveillance. You are almost there try again.

    During the campaign and post election do you think the FBI/DOJ did all of this surveillance by the books yes or no?
    I specified trump. Chris posted a meme about Trump being tapped.

    i then responded with

    and you immediately butted in and suggested the le I warrant would allow them to do just that. it's completely understandable if you want to walk that claim back, though.

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    could trump be wiretapped because of a le I FISA warrant on Carter Page yes or no
    Not directly.

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    Not directly.
    could trump be wiretapped because of a le I FISA warrant on Carter Page yes or no

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    Not directly.
    Where are all the records of the Trump monitoring?

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    I specified trump. Chris posted a meme about Trump being tapped.

    i then responded with



    and you immediately butted in and suggested the le I warrant would allow them to do just that. it's completely understandable if you want to walk that claim back, though.
    I did not suggest a le I would allow them to wiretap Trump I said it would allow surveillance of Page's contacts.

    I asked you a broad question about surveillance and you continue to try and deflect.

    Try again. During the campaign and post election do you think the FBI/DOJ did all of this surveillance by the books yes or no?

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    could trump be wiretapped because of a le I FISA warrant on Carter Page yes or no
    No, not directly.

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    Where are all the records of the Trump monitoring?
    Horowitz

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    where were they before then?

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    I did not suggest a le I would allow them to wiretap Trump I said it would allow surveillance of Page's contacts.
    Great!

    1) so was i justified in laughing at the notion of them being allowed to wiretap Trump?
    2) what exactly do you mean by "surveillance of Page's contacts?"

    do you mean it in the context of them getting "swept up?" if somebody wiretaps my cousin's cell phone and i proceed to call his cell phone and chat with him, that doesn't mean i was wiretapped.

    I asked you a broad question about surveillance and you continue to try and deflect.

    Try again. During the campaign and post election do you think the FBI/DOJ did all of this surveillance by the books yes or no?
    asked and answered. i have no personal knowledge outside of what's been reported. given that, no, i dont have much reason to think otherwise. they had all the right people sign off on the right do ents/applications. unless i'm missing some critical component.

    are you alleging that they tapped devices other than which they were authorized to?

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    No, not directly.
    i dont know what that means

    if somebody wiretaps my cousin's cell phone and i proceed to call his cell phone and chat with him, that doesn't mean i was wiretapped.

    given that standard, could trump be wiretapped because of a le I FISA warrant on Carter Page yes or no

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    is he even looking into FISA stuff? my understanding is he's investigating the handling of the clinton email investigation/matter

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    is he even looking into FISA stuff? my understanding is he's investigating the handling of the clinton email investigation/matter
    Well he is the guy who totally exonerated Holder for fast and furious, so you can see why TSA is so excited.

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    How do you plan on seeing the FISA application?

    I don't think the actions from the house and senate are an end game at all but rather the start of getting the public primed for all of the abuses uncovered in the upcoming OIG investigation report.
    Judiciary chairman wants FISA judge to reveal more info on Page surveillance

    http://www.cnn.com/2018/02/07/politi...ge0602PMVODtop

    “Judge Rosemary Collyer was the FISC Justice who wrote the extensive 99-page opinion (based on the reporting by NSA Director Mike Rogers and the admissions from the Department of Justice) that outlined the intentional abuse and misrepresentations to the FISA Court within the FISA-702 process.”

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    Johnson also released 502 pages of Strzok/Page text messages

    https://t.co/9FuCt3guDt
    Poor TSA. Ron Jonhnson's conspiracy already dead within minutes.



    You will never learn

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    i dont know what that means

    if somebody wiretaps my cousin's cell phone and i proceed to call his cell phone and chat with him, that doesn't mean i was wiretapped.

    given that standard, could trump be wiretapped because of a le I FISA warrant on Carter Page yes or no
    No, not directly.

    When you were chatting with your cousin were you also being listened to?

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    No, not directly.

    When you were chatting with your cousin were you also being listened to?
    do you know how phone calls work?

    again, if my cousin has been wiretapped, and i call him and chat with him, it would be inaccurate to say i was wiretapped.

    given that standard, could trump be wiretapped because of a le I FISA warrant on Carter Page yes or no

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    Poor TSA. Ron Jonhnson's conspiracy already dead within minutes.



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    lol

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    Poor TSA. Ron Jonhnson's conspiracy already dead within minutes.



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    “What exactly the text refers to isn’t specified in the exchange. Associates of the FBI employees said it refers to preparation to brief Mr. Obama about Russian interference in that year’s election.”

    Associates of the FBI employees most likely mean Page/Strzok themselves

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    do you know how phone calls work?

    again, if my cousin has been wiretapped, and i call him and chat with him, it would be inaccurate to say i was wiretapped.

    given that standard, could trump be wiretapped because of a le I FISA warrant on Carter Page yes or no
    How many times must I answer no? Are you too stupid to realize Trump does not need to be directly wiretapped to still be under surveillance?

    When you were chatting with your cousin were you also being listened to?

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    is he even looking into FISA stuff? my understanding is he's investigating the handling of the clinton email investigation/matter
    There’s overlap because of Strzok and McCabe working on both Clinton email and Russia investigation.

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    There’s overlap because of Strzok and McCabe working on both Clinton email and Russia investigation.
    there's overlap because they're both FBI investigations

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    How many times must I answer no?
    Great! So I was justified to laugh here.

    and you brought this up for no good reason except to make the BOMBS revelation that people can get swept up in targetted surveillance?

    A le I FISA warrant would include surveillance of any contact of Page past and present...would that include Trump yes or no?
    is that what you meant by "surveillance of any contact"... getting swept up?

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    and if that IS all you meant... that contacts could get "swept up" as part of the surveillance, why the whole dog and pony show about le I vs le VII? that's why i think you're disingenuous

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    I hope you were laughing at Reck

    The text messages between Strzok/Page were from September 2016, when did the investigation into Russian interference begin?

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    and if that IS all you meant... that contacts could get "swept up" as part of the surveillance, why the whole dog and pony show about le I vs le VII? that's why i think you're disingenuous
    Targeting person A for surveillance knowing you will also get person B is not the same as incidental collection

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