School shooting: Parkland, Florida

[DarrinS]

Walk me through how a 19 year old makes a Paris type truck bomb.

Accelerator pedal

[Chris]

[Pavlov]

Accelerator pedal

Ah. That one.

So because he can drive, we should do nothing about guns.

Even more solid.

[Pavlov]

Why is everyone so afraid to talk about guns?

[DarrinS]

Ah. That one.

So because he can drive, we should do nothing about guns.

Even more solid.

What should be done about guns? Be specific

[Chris]

Why is everyone so afraid to talk about guns?

I'm not afraid, let's talk about guns. Darrin's question would be a good start^

[Spurminator]

Meanwhile, in Austria, Australia, and Germany, they've banned anti-depressants, banned violent entertainment, banned social media and enforced traditional family laws.

[Proxy]

antifa shirt!

Lol, that shirt has been around for over a decade

[Pavlov]

What should be done about guns? Be specific

It would probably have to start with talking about them.

But "it's not the time for that."

[midnightpulp]

Nope. You can just run them over.

You're making a false equivalence. An assault weapon is a far more efficient killing machine than a vehicle. Has there ever been a vehicular homicide case that claimed over 20 victims? You're correct about bombs, though. McVeigh. That disgruntled teacher in the 20s that blew up his school. And yeah, civilians shouldn't have easy access to bomb making materials and equipment, either.

[Spurminator]

It would probably have to start with talking about them.

But "it's not the time for that."

Never the time for that, according to The ey Amendment.

[Pavlov]

What should be done about guns? Be specific

Background checks for every purchase and computerized records would be a good start. Don't know if it would've stopped this shooting but you gotta start somewhere.

[DarrinS]

Background checks for every purchase and computerized records would be a good start. Don't know if it would've stopped this shooting but you gotta start somewhere.

I noticed that you edited your hyper-partisan snarky answer.

[Pavlov]

I noticed that you edited your hyper-partisan snarky answer.

What did I say before, Darrin?

And lol you calling anyone hyper-partisan snarky.

But now is not the time to talk about guns.

[Spurminator]

Every time an illegal immigrant commits a violent crime we have 150 congressmen and every Fox News viewer in the country screaming about immigration reform. But those same people don't ever want to talk about guns after a mass shooting.

[TSA]

You're making a false equivalence. An assault weapon is a far more efficient killing machine than a vehicle. Has there ever been a vehicular homicide case that claimed over 20 victims? You're correct about bombs, though. McVeigh. That disgruntled teacher in the 20s that blew up his school. And yeah, civilians shouldn't have easy access to bomb making materials and equipment, either.

Seriously? Nice, France. 86 dead 400+ wounded.

[Chris]

uh oh Chelsea decided to open his/her big yapper

[midnightpulp]

That's a lot of reform and government regulation tbh

While I agree illicit drugs and gun violence are mostly intertwined, I think it's more important to go to the source of the madness. Who flooded the streets and the projects with crack cocaine in the 80's? Who's flooding the streets with heroin now utilizing Afghanistan's abundant poppy fields? If you dig into it, it always comes back to the CIA, and it doesn't require a tin foil hat. If we are being undermined from the top, any kind of multi-fold solution will prove fruitless. Until the Deep State is purged, the only solution is a well armed and informed public. Armed security at schools is a great start imo.

Not really. I have a Libertarian position toward prohibition (which as an anti-statist, I'm sure you'll agree with). It's "criminal" to fill our prisons with non-violent drug offenders and addicts just so the Prison Industrial Complex can make a profit (from your tax dollars. It costs 40K per year to house an inmate). Mental health reform will indeed have to be introduced by the government via a tax funded social program, because otherwise, who is going to pay for it? Charities?

My gun control solution is a little intervention-y, but I think the right and privilege to own a killing machine needs to come with an increased responsibility level on part of the owner. How in the holy are obviously mentally troubled individuals like Paddock, Cho, Lanza, Holmes getting access to LEGAL guns? That's where routine mental health checkups every few months make logical sense. The Lanza case, for instance. Both him and his mother were obviously mentally unstable, but she owned a safe full of legal firearms Adam had easy access to. A "responsible" gun owner should never let someone like an Adam Lanza have access to a weapon.

[DMX7]

uh oh Chelsea decided to open his/her big yapper

Why does Fox News care so much about what Chelsea Handler has to say?

The answer is because they know how stupid and triggered clowns like you get anytime a celebrity decides to drop some truth bombs on the subject.

[boutons_deux]

But those same people don't ever want to talk about guns after a mass shooting.

... by all-American white guys.

[Pavlov]

Fox News and it's viewers are so easily triggered.

[Chucho]

Probably chuchus relative

It sucks because he is.

[Chris]

Not really. I have a Libertarian position toward prohibition (which as an anti-statist, I'm sure you'll agree with). It's "criminal" to fill our prisons with non-violent drug offenders and addicts just so the Prison Industrial Complex can make a profit (from your tax dollars. It costs 40K per year to house an inmate). Mental health reform will indeed have to be introduced by the government via a tax funded social program, because otherwise, who is going to pay for it? Charities?

I wanted to mention the corrupt prison system as well, but I figured it was redundant and common knowledge at this point. Colorado set the blueprint by eliminating cannabis prohibition, although it still remains illegal on the Federal level. Texas is seeking to issue tickets instead of jail time/probation(another money making scheme) for minor cannabis offenders. This will clean up the overcrowded jails and eliminate risks for understaffed prisons. (a major problem in the U.S.) Appropriation of funds for the services you mentioned would be easy if we ever decided to pull out of the Middle East. Dinosaurs like Jeff Sessions with antiquated views on these kinds of issues has me concerned.

[Chris]

MSNBC and it's viewers are so easily triggered.

fify

[Will Hunting]

I’m sure your prayer is making a ton of difference right now