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    RELAX! Some people want to cry over everything; let the story unfold properly. Some of you speak so reckless and will probably have to end up eating crow........
    Let’s hope so! There is only one good ending here!

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    Which one of you posters is this guy


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    The poor bas cant even wipe his own ass much less have an uncle that wants him in LA

    Fake news

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    I know this may sound crazy, but there's some people here that are more than just message board posters.
    No, you'd still just be a ing message board poster. Quit acting uppity.

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    f he wants to have a career with the stats, endorsements, and fame, he should leave. He shouldnt stay just to keep popovich wining 50+ games ever year only to get to the playoffs and Pop still experimenting with lineups. I don't blame him. This is 2018,

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    Leonard is not a guy who is going to get endorsements in LA to overtake tax loss unless his character changes.

    This endorsement bull ... wtf, you can only get those in LA, NY, or Miami??
    any superstar in LA would fall backwards into massive endorsements
    Lakers/Clips are non playoffs teams, they will suck for the next 5-6 years or more since their rebuilding processes don't look well at all. No one gets endorsements just for playing for them now.

    Also, people act here like Kawhi couldn't sell a playing for Spurs.

    Last season, he was top 6th on selling NBA jerseys over guys like Harden Porzingis Butler Klay playing in bigger markets...
    http://www.nba.com/article/2017/04/1...gular-season#/

    He had a Jordan National commercial on Christams day even when he played only 9 games this season.

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    Fair enough. Just find it funny that a source would talk to a message board poster but not anyone else in the media. Just seems weird, that's all.
    Spurs have been irritated and would rather him sit out until he either gets traded or til he's mentally committed to the Spurs again.... He's more healthy now than he was when he first came back.
    I wouldn't buy a story where a winning franchise and HOF coach wouldn't play a "healthy" player just because he's disconnected with the team...

    They put at risk +50 wins streak and 2018 playoffs performances just because they want to send a message to their best player...?

    I thought Pop was smarter than that.

    Sorry, but this sounds so incoherent that makes me hard

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    I wouldn't buy a story where a winning franchise and HOF coach wouldn't play a "healthy" player just because he's disconnected with the team...

    They put at risk +50 wins streak and 2018 playoffs performances just because they want to send a message to their best player...?

    I thought Pop was smarter than that.

    Sorry, but this sounds so incoherent that makes me hard
    I mean they played Aldridge when he clearly wanted out last season. I guess anything's possible, but def seems a bit crazy to think they're sitting him

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    I wouldn't buy a story where a winning franchise and HOF coach wouldn't play a "healthy" player just because he's disconnected with the team...

    They put at risk +50 wins streak and 2018 playoffs performances just because they want to send a message to their best player...?

    I thought Pop was smarter than that.

    Sorry, but this sounds so incoherent that makes me hard
    I don't think anyone is asking you to buy anything.

    I know you're still a 24 yr old kid, and I know you're a Kawhi fan boy that can't believe anything negative that is said about Kawhi and the Spurs. So I'm not surprised at your defensive comments and personal biased beliefs -- implying nothing is wrong and I'm here just to tell stories.

    Both sides have issues with eachother. And Kawhi is more healthy now than he was when he first came back. He actually was cleared and healthy enough to keep playing according to the doctors the Spurs brought in from all over the world.

    Can the issues be fixed? There's still time for that to possibly be the case, but Kawhi's Uncle is not helping anything between Kawhi and the Spurs, and he has been in his ear about playing in LA his next contract.

    This is from someone I acknowledge as pretty damn credible.
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    They can go over the cap to re-sign him I believe. They would just have to sign the help before Kawhi signs his contract. Hopefully we get an agreement right away in July so we don't have to fret about this anymore.
    Even if Kawhi was healthy, playing at MVP level and the Spurs making WCF again this season, I guess they would be reluctant to give Kawhi the supermax too.

    Not sure if they financial able to go over the cap for 2 seasons after 2020 which means Kawhi supermax +LMA extension + some role players deals.

    Also, Holt isn't the only owner but has 40% of the team...Owner's divorces always cause panic among investors in every city.

    Pop isn't getting young...Why would they give a supermax contract if they would start a rebuilding process when Pop retires?

    Sadly, there are many non-basketball related factors that could make owners not to approve a super-max deal this next offseason.

    And like I've said before this is the only scenario where I can see Kawhi being traded, if the Spurs don't want to give him that deal.

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    Why wouldn't they give Kawhi a Supermax deal. If he's healthy, surely he could be traded easily for cost effective pieces if the club was to ever get in financial trouble?
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    Why wouldn't they give Kawhi a Supermax deal. If he's healthy, surely he could be traded easily for cost effective pieces?
    If they can make amends (like Aldridge and the Spurs did) -- Spurs would be beyond dumb to not offer the max.

    Giving Pau and Patty 98 million but then not offering the max to Kawhi the following summer? Yeah that makes a lot of sense....

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    I know you're still a 24 yr old kid
    23.

    I know you're a Kawhi fan boy that can't believe anything negative that is said about your Kawhi and the Spurs.
    Kawhi is my favorite player and the Spurs are my team. Unlike other people here, all things are clear with me, I'm transparent.

    I've said the people I trust are convinced that Kawhi is the best for the Spurs' future, that's why I believe the same.

    If I would see Kawhi in other jersey I wouldn't say I would jump off the 1604 and 281 intersection but... I would be IMMENSELY sad.

    I want the best for the Spurs, Kawhi is the best for them...It's pretty clear that I want him as a Spur for life, but his personal best friends, too. So I don't see why this is bad.

    Both sides have issues with eachother.
    I don't doubt it. All things related to the injury were like a boom for both parts.

    He actually was cleared and healthy enough to keep playing according to the doctors the Spurs brought in from all over the world.
    And Pop don't let him play until Kawhi "gets traded" next season "or til he's mentally committed to the Spurs again"

    Do you think a coach of Pop's caliber would sit his best player whole season and playoffs just because the player isn't committed to the team?? I don't.
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    If they can make amends (like Aldridge and the Spurs did) -- Spurs would be beyond dumb to not offer the max.

    Giving Pau and Patty 98 million but then not offering the max to Kawhi the following summer? Yeah that makes a lot of sense....
    Pau and Patty were signed in 2017. What if they aren't financial able to offer 217M deal this offseason?

    I don't hear this from anyone. It's just my doubt.

    I was thinking about some financial issues after Holt's divorce. It seem like these aren't the best times for Spurs owners to sign super-max deals

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    So if he wants out, how does not playing help achieve that goal? If its a trade he seeks, then diminishing his value by not playing doesn't seem logical. While he may actually want out of San Antonio, its probably not even part of the reason he isn't playing. I'm more inclined to take it at face value- he's not right physically. Ultimately, he wants to be paid as much $ as possible long term. Not one part of this current situation helps that. This reminds me of when Hakeem was with the Rockets and team doctors cleared him to play but he said he wasn't ready-eventually they made amends and won 2 championships. But it was ugly at the time.

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    I mean they played Aldridge when he clearly wanted out last season. I guess anything's possible, but def seems a bit crazy to think they're sitting him

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    I mean they played Aldridge when he clearly wanted out last season. I guess anything's possible, but def seems a bit crazy to think they're sitting him
    They didn't know Aldridge wanted out til the summer when Aldridge told Pop he wanted to be traded. Two entirely different situations.

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    Why wouldn't they give Kawhi a Supermax deal. If he's healthy, surely he could be traded easily for cost effective pieces if the club was to ever get in financial trouble?
    Don't worry. OP says Pop wouldn't play Kawhi until he gets traded...That means the team know what pieces they will get for him. After all, a player like Kawhi's so easily to replace.

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    They didn't know Aldridge wanted out til the summer when Aldridge told Pop he wanted to be traded. Two entirely different situations.
    We read "rumors" about LMA being unhappy on media after 2015-16 season. Jabari Young wrote an article about it

    I guess you posted about it during 2016-17 season, too.

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    They didn't know Aldridge wanted out til the summer when Aldridge told Pop he wanted to be traded. Two entirely different situations.
    It came out tho before the summer, the Jackie MacMullan piece in particular stating things weren't going as planned between he and the Spurs. There were definitely rumblings of some stuff going on prior to it being made official/public by Pop.

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    Sam Amick mentioned early on Kawhi & his group were on board with how the Spurs handled certain things in the media and their culture and what not, but over time they haven't always been on the same page. Sounded like he was holding back a little and was vague, but does make some sense I guess. It was in this podcast from a month ago. Maybe his uncle does want him in LA so he can get more recognition and spotlight. Don't know what Kawhi wants tho.

    http://hoopshype.com/rumor/1158649/


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    Maybe his uncle does want him in LA so he can get more recognition and spotlight.
    For what every Spurs fan have seen during his years in SA, Kawhi doesn't exactly love media and interviews...

    Spurs-Kawhi's camp have issues but I doubt the reason is Kawhi wanting more media attention..If he would seek for it I guess we should have heard him talking about his injury or whatever last weeks.

    Being a Wall of Silence like Matt Moore called Kawhi...Being inaccessible to any reporter like he has been all these years, doesn't seem the type of player that wants spotlight.

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    For what every Spurs fan have seen during his years in SA, Kawhi doesn't exactly love media and interviews...

    Spurs-Kawhi's camp have issues but I doubt the reason is Kawhi wanting more media attention..If he would seek for it I guess we should have heard him talking about his injury or whatever last weeks.

    Being a Wall of silence like Matt Moore called Kawhi...Being inaccessible to any reporter like he has been all these years, doesn't seem the type of player that wants more spotlight.
    I agree, that doesn't seem to be what Kawhi wants, personality wise. ( tho who knows how he really feels) I'm just saying maybe that's part of the problem is people from his entourage want that for him.

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    Don't worry. OP says Pop wouldn't play Kawhi until he gets traded...That means the team know what pieces they will get for him. After all, a player like Kawhi's so easily to replace.
    Kl has never won a damn thing as the man. The end

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    I agree, that doesn't seem to be what Kawhi wants, personality wise. ( tho who knows how he really feels) I'm just saying maybe that's part of the problem is people from his entourage want that for him.
    I doubt it.

    But if true it's not a good enough reason for Pop not to play like OP said.

    I can't imagine Pop telling RC "His uncle wants what??? Spotlight? WTF?? Kawhi won't play until I trade him or he's committed to this team again."


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