School shooting: Parkland, Florida

[CosmicCowboy]

What backdown, got? Just sayin I dont own any.

And its funny how you and Fuzzy obsess on my appearance. You posting pictures of geriatrics, fuzzy calling me fat.

LOL you two pussies are the ones that would be afraid to go to a GTG.

[CosmicCowboy]

Used goods change hands more easily when the market is consistently replenished with those goods. Cut off the supply.

Diminished supply affects price, not availability. Plus 10 million in circulation is hardly a diminished supply.

[spurraider21]

Thats actually true if you were intellectually honest and not just arguing to be a . Used guns change hands all the time either willingly or through theft.

well, if private sales are more heavily regulated or even just made outright illegal, then you'd only have to worry about the "bad guys with guns" breaking the law with illegal sales.

its also why you have the optional buyback system to eat at the supply

[CosmicCowboy]

well, if private sales are more heavily regulated or even just made outright illegal, then you'd only have to worry about the "bad guys with guns" breaking the law with illegal sales.

its also why you have the optional buyback system to eat at the supply

If bullets turned to daisies when fired it would solve the problem too.

Both have about equal chances of happening.

[spurraider21]

If bullets turned to daisies when fired it would solve the problem too.

Both have about equal chances of happening.

you are conflating the effect/success of the suggested regulation with the probability that said regulation could be enacted

it represents a pivot from "there's nothing we can do about gun control" to "there's nothing we will do about gun control"

[Spurminator]

Diminished supply affects price, not availability.

Right, and price affects access. A buyback affects price and access even further.

Plus 10 million in circulation is hardly a diminished supply.

It's still a limit and will still impact price drastically.

[Chucho]

If the government gives a 2 for 1 buyback value, I'm going on a HiPoint shopping spree.

[SpursforSix]

Restrict new purchases. Buy back existing firearms at $10k per gun. Watch the numbers shrink significantly. Gather the data and draw conclusions.

And before "10 grand per gun. Thats going to be an outrageous outlay!"

Probably 3% of the bank/financial bailout.

What numbers are you using? That doesn't sound right.

Or are you talking about a particular type of gun?

[RandomGuy]

Respectfully, that horse is out of the barn. With up to 10 million out there they will never be hard for a whacko to get without confiscation.

"It would be hard"

That does not mean we shouldn't try. We are made of sterner stuff than that, I hope.

[RandomGuy]

Thats actually true if you were intellectually honest and not just arguing to be a . Used guns change hands all the time either willingly or through theft.

$10000 per AR15, no questions asked, would put thieves to work for us. Melt the ers at every chance, make sure replacement parts can't be manufactured legally, and it takes care of itself over time.

We spend trillions of dollars on a military to "keep us safe". This seems like a bargain.

[RandomGuy]

What numbers are you using? That doesn't sound right.

Or are you talking about a particular type of gun?

Dunno. We put up hundreds of billions in bailouts. $10000 per gun times ten thousands of guns is on the order of about a hundred million dollars, a fraction of the cost of a new warship or bomber.

[Blake]

What backdown, got? Just sayin I dont own any.

And its funny how you and Fuzzy obsess on my appearance. You posting pictures of geriatrics, fuzzy calling me fat.

LOL you two pussies are the ones that would be afraid to go to a GTG.

Lol angry

[spurraider21]

Dunno. We put up hundreds of billions in bailouts. $10000 per gun times ten thousands of guns is on the order of about a hundred million dollars, a fraction of the cost of a new warship or bomber.

there are hundreds of millions of guns.

dont know any ballpark numbers for semi-auto rifles

[SpursforSix]

Dunno. We put up hundreds of billions in bailouts. $10000 per gun times ten thousands of guns is on the order of about a hundred million dollars, a fraction of the cost of a new warship or bomber.

Yeah...I didn't know what the thought was for how many guns this would pull in. My guess is that it's much higher than "tens of thousands" assuming there is no scale for type of gun. I would think millions of low end guns would be turned in at that price.

The 3% of the bailout just sounds very low.

[CosmicCowboy]

you are conflating the effect/success of the suggested regulation with the probability that said regulation could be enacted

it represents a pivot from "there's nothing we can do about gun control" to "there's nothing we will do about gun control"

Meh. Guess I'm the forum cynic but I still say this will have all blown over in three months.



















Guess all the lights are back on in Puerto Rico, right? Sure dont hear about it.

[spurraider21]

Meh. Guess I'm the forum cynic but I still say this will have all blown over in three months.



















Guess all the lights are back on in Puerto Rico, right? Sure dont hear about it.

ok. once again, your point is not "we can't do anything about it" but "we won't do anything about it." thanks for the clarification

[boutons_deux]

buyback at current gun retail is only one incentive. buy backs are destroyed

the avg gun nut owns 9 guns

Each gun must (retroactively) give a GIN (gun ID number), like cars

A FEDERAL database of all guns, GIN, details of last seller and current owner

on demand, the owner must show purchase receipt which has full details of the seller

owner must pay, for EACH gun, $100K? liability insurance, and take EACH gun to an inspection annually (
just like with a car) with proof of insurance and registration, and personal photo ID. $1000 fine per gun if not re-registered (or can't find the ing gun)

And lots of ways to confiscate guns

-- DWI

-- domestic abuse

-- entering drug/alcohol rehab

-- losing gun or gun stolen (automatic $5K fine, per gun)

-- death or injury by the gun lost or stolen (owner is a de facto shooting accomplice)

I can dream up more...

You ers can have you ing guns, "FREEDOM!!!!", but society ain't paying for the death and destruction, you ers are.

[TeyshaBlue]

What numbers are you using? That doesn't sound right.

Or are you talking about a particular type of gun?

Tarp alone was 700 billion dollars. 3% equals 21 billion dollars. That ought to cover a healthy turn in

[TeyshaBlue]

I own three shotguns and a handgun. Three of which I never use. I'll keep my Remington over and under 20 gauge for trap shoots and make 30 Grand off the rest. I'm sure I'm not the only one that would jump at the opportunity to score 30 grand

[SpursforSix]

Tarp alone was 700 billion dollars. 3% equals 21 billion dollars. That ought to cover my healthy turn in

I think you're underestimating how many guns would get turned in at $10,000 per.

[TeyshaBlue]

1 million guns at $10,000 each is only 10 billion half, of my estimate

[SpursforSix]

1 million guns at $10,000 each is only 10 billion half, of my estimate

I think you'd have 20,000,000 guns turned in.

[Chucho]

I think you're underestimating how many guns would get turned in at $10,000 per.

Indeed. I'd start buying as many cheap HiPoints as my savings would allocate and cash them in at a $50 to $1 return, that's the smartest, safest greatest investment of all time.

[SpursforSix]

Indeed. I'd start buying as many cheap HiPoints as my savings would allocate and cash them in at a $50 to $1 return, that's the smartest, safest greatest investment of all time.

Word. And I'd expect to see a short term drastic increase in violent gun thefts.

[TeyshaBlue]

I think you'd have 20,000,000 guns turned in.

200 billion. If it works it's a freaking bargain that's less than a third of tarp