Gun Control

[TSA]

K

What guns would you use?
I don't know guns well enough but I've got opinions of two people who have shot ar-15 and all kinds of other weapons. Said it was a blast. One even put some sort of fire explosive in a old car on his ranch and took video of it as they all fired at it. It worked. I do have suggestions on a better fire "ball" though after watching the video.

If forced to choose a gun an M4 would do just fine. Truck is still cheaper and easier to obtain.

[pgardn]

Under 50 yards probably cant beat an AK variant for reliability. Cheap and efficient, never jam.

Is this the gun with the bullet that "tumbles"?

[TSA]

K

What guns would you use?
I don't know guns well enough but I've got opinions of two people who have shot ar-15 and all kinds of other weapons. Said it was a blast. One even put some sort of fire explosive in a old car on his ranch and took video of it as they all fired at it. It worked. I do have suggestions on a better fire "ball" though after watching the video.

Instead of asking here you should do a bunch of google searches on what guns kill people at venues most effectively.

[pgardn]

If forced to choose a gun an M4 would do just fine. Truck is still cheaper and easier to obtain.

The burning man festival says no driving allowed?
How do they all get there?
And Is this rule only when one starts to illustrate one's unique abilities?

[TSA]

The burning man festival says no driving allowed?
How do they all get there?
And Is this rule only when one starts to illustrate one's unique abilities?

I’m sure the Vegas concert said no shooting people dead allowed too.

[pgardn]

Instead of asking here you should do a bunch of google searches on what guns kill people at venues most effectively.

Any place where people are dense. Easier Church, bar, ....

Difficult: airports, sports events, concerts,

I kinda got that. With a variant of an AK.

So do we ban AKs; and large trucks at the burning man festival?
Bump stock, what? How do we handle the most efficient kill-awhole-lotta-peeps-quickly guns?
Leave em alone?

[pgardn]

I’m sure the Vegas concert said no shooting people dead allowed too.

Actually it did not.
The driving thing was enacted because oddly, people were run over... Go figure out in that flat sand. All those people. Spring break they don't allow driving on some beaches for the same thing. Which could be a really bad spot for 2 paired wolves, one driving and crushing, and one AK shooting. But I'm thinking the guy shooting does a "better" job. Low tide would be preferable as well. Or maybe not... high tide might smash more beach goers together.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

There's actually no cons utional impediment to regulating weapons, as long as it doesn't deprive the individual from personal protection (according to the SCOTUS).

The SCOTUS specifically singled out certain shotguns that are popular for personal protection, but that was the bar they set.

That's why nukes are indeed banned.

Just like any other cons utional right, they're not absolute (something I discussed with DMC, IIRC). Even the 1st amendment has certain regulations applied to it.

SCOTUS was also quite clear on confiscating someone's legally obtained weapon.

[KenMcCoy]

"According to its website,*Home Depot requires*that truck renters be at least 21 years old, possess a current American or Canadian driver's license and leave a $50 deposit. Additionally, proof of automobile insurance is required for*Home Depot's "Load 'N Go" rentals........"

https://www.wcpo.com/news/national/h...in-many-states

If you're under 21 you could buy a cheap truck off of Craigslist or at a used car lot. No restrictions on that.

[DMC]

So you understood what you were proposing was ridiculously inefficient.

What type of gun?

Ar-15 or something else? And I suppose more than in case of jamming?

What did I propose that included a gun?

Nothing.

And none of them come close to a gun.

[DMC]

Actually it did not.
The driving thing was enacted because oddly, people were run over... Go figure out in that flat sand. All those people. Spring break they don't allow driving on some beaches for the same thing. Which could be a really bad spot for 2 paired wolves, one driving and crushing, and one AK shooting. But I'm thinking the guy shooting does a "better" job. Low tide would be preferable as well. Or maybe not... high tide might smash more beach goers together.

You really are a weird mother er

[pgardn]

You really are a weird mother er

And you.... You... overstarch your shirts.

[pgardn]

Lighten up Francis.

- Seargeant Hulka

[Blake]

did you quote the wrong person? None of this refutes my statement.

Other than "cheaper", the le of the article very literally refutes your statement almost word for word.

[Blake]

If you're under 21 you could buy a cheap truck off of Craigslist or at a used car lot. No restrictions on that.

How do you kill the kids inside the school building with your truck

[DMC]

And you.... You... overstarch your shirts.

No, I just have them pressed, light starch.

[DMC]

How do you kill the kids inside the school building with your truck

Don't they ever come outside?

[TSA]

Other than "cheaper", the le of the article very literally refutes your statement almost word for word.

Yes because Home Depot is the only place to rent a truck in the USA.

[DMC]

With full options available.
Guns work inside as well. Lots o people go inside. And you probably don't best Vegas Dude. You try. I think a gun gets you closer than a truck for the spontaneous type of maniac. And it seems they are used more in the US. It's our preferred method because of options.

So what kind of gun(s). Anything better than an ar-15? And why did these guys also carry other arms as well. Smaller arms when the ar-15 gives out and easy to transport? What would the preferred smaller gun be?

Stop pretending you know about any of it. You're just pulling guesses out of your ass.

[DMC]

Lol that was a waste of time. I see zero "well regulated" militias of private citizens in the us. Try and pretend you know of any now.

I see a bunch of kooks with guns tho

The 2nd Amendment isn't about militias. It's about the pre-existing right to keep and bear arms. It simply stated a condition for making that statement, it didn't say the right hinged on needing a militia. The 2nd Amendment didn't grant the right to bear arms. It existed already.

[pgardn]

Stop pretending you know about any of it. You're just pulling guesses out of your ass.

These are not guesses starch fella, they are questions because I don't know guns. Your F'N rigid brain... You think cars and trucks work well indoors to kill people? I did not think you were a monster truck kinda guy that went to the Alamodome and got sprayed with dirt. Do they even do this anymore?

[pgardn]

Don't they ever come outside?

Yes.

And surprisingly, they disperse. Especially after school.
Im an expert.
This was a tough one.

[Isitjustme?]

If you're under 21 you could buy a cheap truck off of Craigslist or at a used car lot. No restrictions on that.

Wanna compare international murders by vehicle versus intentional murders by firearms worldwide?

I wanna.

[ElNono]

https://www.lectlaw.com/files/gun01.htm

It's a weak argument, IMO. Just like "militia" at the time of the founder's has little resemblance to militia today.

[AaronY]

The 2nd Amendment isn't about militias.

Except for the part where it explicitly mentions militias right in the first half of the first sentence!

C'mon bro I mean seriously. It even says regulated right there! not "A nutty group of disparate gun nut kooks, being necessary for the security of a free state the right of the kooks with firearm fetishes to have home arsenals.."