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    It could be that or it could be that if he’s in NY under the guise of rehab, that there will be no expectation of him showing up to games, etc..

    So far he’s had a sick daughter, now a trip to NY to rehab, etc..Could all be coincidence but harder to believe at this point. Seems like some excuses to stay away from the team after being called out for doing so and understanding the optics are bad.
    I would hope if that was the case, PATFO would have some idea then. This and the last piece about him being in NYC both stated the Spurs had personnel there with him to monitor the situation and observe him. If he wasn't serious about rehabbing and actually attempting a comeback, I would like to think they'd relay that back to PATFO.

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    Yes they have been conservative with injuries for 20 years, but that doesn't mean they can't change pop and the FO had made decisions recently that they wouldn't have ten years ago...

    Secondly, it's no secret that Pop, Manu, and Tony have a bond that is super strong... Their desire to send them out with a fighting chance may be affecting their decisions
    They still haven't. I mean they kept Kawhi out Game 6 in the Rockets game. They kept him out in the WCF when he likely could have played. They kept out Gay a little longer with his recent injury, TP wasn't playing b2b's and they were conservative with his return. They literally have sacrificed games to keep guys healthy.

    The only thing affecting their decision is the fact that their doctors cleared Kawhi. It may be unfair because perhaps Kawhi feels something that the docs can't see/detect. But i mean those guys are compe ors, of course they want their best player out there with them

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    Except that San Antonio is not OKC or CLE.

    Russ and Lebron both had the freedom to do whatever they want which made them very marketbale. Just look at Duncan, for a player lf his caliber he never reach Russ or heck even Kyrie level endorsment.

    Its the San Antonio narrative "boring". He gets away from it and you can bet he is going to make more.
    Nah. Tim easily could have made more in SA. He chose not to pursue that. Same with Kawhi. The reason others make more is not because SA is boring; it’s because Kawhi does not want the franchise leader responsibility off the court (interviews, marketing yourself a lot).

    That may be changing, but has nothing to do with SA.

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    I would hope if that was the case, PATFO would have some idea then. This and the last piece about him being in NYC both stated the Spurs had personnel there with him to monitor the situation and observe him. If he wasn't serious about rehabbing and actually attempting a comeback, I would like to think they'd relay that back to PATFO.
    I’m not saying he’s not rehabbing; I’m saying that it’s also a nice built in reason to not attend games/team events etc..

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    Nah. Tim easily could have made more in SA. He chose not to pursue that. Same with Kawhi. The reason others make more is not because SA is boring; it’s because Kawhi does not want the franchise leader responsibility off the court (interviews, marketing yourself a lot).

    That may be changing, but has nothing to do with SA.
    Even Manu who is labled as exciting tend to have very little drama around him.

    SA doesnt like drama.

    People do and that tramslates to money.

    Tim duncan accepted endorsements. But he wasnt in any ones top list because to be a top dog in San Antonio requires a narrative..a narrarive that doesnt translate to cash

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    I’m not saying he’s not rehabbing; I’m saying that it’s also a nice built in reason to not attend games/team events etc..
    Yea.. If it means there's a slim chance he can still return, then so be it. We already played NY and Brooklyn, otherwise it'd be interesting to see if he would show up there lol

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    Carter seems to think there is some big announcement coming, but not until the end of the season. He was really ing smug in that video. I didn't like it at all.



    I remember you posting this before. I really do hope he's not as clued in as he thinks and that he's wrong. I don't know, though. His smugness at the end of the video was really annoying. It really disgusted me.
    The announcement might be a trade demand that Kawhi can't do now since the trade deadline has passed and it s better PR to just sit injured until then. But who knows really....

    HATE CC's smugness. It's like he is or pretends to be 1) completely in Kawhi's camp and 2) completely on Kawhi's side with no journalistic objectivity.

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    Try to get Porzinigis or Simmons and a nice draft pick or Walker or Wiggins and several nice draft picks and close this distraction in June/July.

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    The Suns have a load of first round picks not sure they have any player we would want

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    Nah. Tim easily could have made more in SA. He chose not to pursue that. Same with Kawhi. The reason others make more is not because SA is boring; it’s because Kawhi does not want the franchise leader responsibility off the court (interviews, marketing yourself a lot).

    That may be changing, but has nothing to do with SA.
    I agree with this. Tim Duncan didn't get a lot of marketing in S.A. mostly by choice and also the fact that he is a 7 footer than is know for having no flash. That isn't the kind of guy that is highly marketable. Kawhi has a more marketable game, but he has no personality. That said, it is possible that the persons who are guiding him (who aren't agents and have no experience) probably just believe that the only way for him to be marketable is to go to LA or NY.

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    Try to get Porzinigis or Simmons and a nice draft pick or Walker or Wiggins and several nice draft picks and close this distraction in June/July.
    Interesting you mentioned Simmons because I've never really consciously thought about getting him, but you've jogged a memory of a dream I had a couple of weeks ago with Ben Simmons being on the court for the Spurs and there was no Kawhi to be found in it.

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    Interesting you mentioned Simmons because I've never really consciously thought about getting him, but you've jogged a memory of a dream I had a couple of weeks ago with Ben Simmons being on the court for the Spurs and there was no Kawhi to be found in it.
    Let's hope it was a premonition my friend.

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    Let's hope it was a premonition my friend.
    Well now that I've thought about, I'd be very interested. Let's see if it turns out to be true. I thought it was a strange dream and fell asleep again. Didn't remember it until you mentioned his name.

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    Well now that I've thought about, I'd be very interested. Let's see if it turns out to be true. I thought it was a strange dream and fell asleep again. Didn't remember it until you mentioned his name.
    Was it in color or just black and silver?

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    I agree with this. Tim Duncan didn't get a lot of marketing in S.A. mostly by choice and also the fact that he is a 7 footer than is know for having no flash. That isn't the kind of guy that is highly marketable. Kawhi has a more marketable game, but he has no personality. That said, it is possible that the persons who are guiding him (who aren't agents and have no experience) probably just believe that the only way for him to be marketable is to go to LA or NY.
    Agreed. Tim didn't actively seek out endorsements. I remember hearing several years ago when the Mavs won the le that Dirk got tons of endorsement offers but rejected a ton of them simply because he didn't really care about the extra money and just valued his time. I put Tim in the same mold as Dirk when it came to not actively seeking endorsements. You can still get tons of endorsements in small markets as Lebron and Kevin Garnett have proven in the past but you have to have a personality to get them which Kawhi doesn't have.
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    Exactly what i said would happen. Ghetto going ghetto on class. Trade this bum

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    The Suns have a load of first round picks not sure they have any player we would want
    The Suns have a legit shot at the #1 pick this year. If they get it (and win the Deandre Ayton sweepstakes), pairing him with Booker, Josh Jackson, Chriss, Peyton, etc. They could be damn good in 2-3 years.

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    The Suns have a legit shot at the #1 pick this year. If they get it (and win the Deandre Ayton sweepstakes), pairing him with Booker, Josh Jackson, Chriss, Peyton, etc. They could be damn good in 2-3 years.
    det core

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    Brian thinks there is hope.

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    Even Manu who is labled as exciting tend to have very little drama around him.

    SA doesnt like drama.

    People do and that tramslates to money.

    Tim duncan accepted endorsements. But he wasnt in any ones top list because to be a top dog in San Antonio requires a narrative..a narrarive that doesnt translate to cash
    New spurs fans dont understand the drama free thing. Nba equals classless. But what do you expect? Its why posters like timdumbken keep posting sarcastically about culture. This is what happens when you dont get culture right. Bunch of stupidity.

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    they do not, because that does not make any sense
    They could have told him that they would not discuss it till the end of season though. Neither yes or no. This would make perfect sense to me. KL's management then would've said (or acted) if you can't tell us now, we will look at options.

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    In one breath Sean says he doesn't know, in another he says Kawhi is happy here. Who knows....

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    That's a nice clip from Sean. He makes a distinction between giving you his opinion and being an insider and knowing what is going on with Kiwi's group.

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    That's a nice clip from Sean. He makes a distinction between giving you his opinion and being an insider and knowing what is going on with Kiwi's group.
    Good point. Wish many of the other talking heads would do this. Especially Chris Carter and Jalen Rose.

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