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    "Gobbleeygook", when it's literally better than a Minny team with three max guys.

    What a article and thread. Makes me feel bad for critiquing Pop and RC
    Lol

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    Patfo fulffers are disgusting

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    Which back of the draft prospects did we wiff on? DJ is a pretty good steal tbh.

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    They won a le in 2014 and went to the conference finals last year. What a load of horse .

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    1. No new gimmick from Pop this year with regard to coaching. Among his recent brilliant ideas were shifting from team ball to iso for Kawhi, settling for midrange jumpers to accommodate Aldridge, and starting two bigs in the pace and space era.
    2. They’re right, after 2011 there really wasn’t anyone solid. We’ve gotten solid bench pieces which is good value for 29 but it doesn’t solve the problem of being a small market team and failing to recruit stars.

    Year in and year out, we see SA fail at recruiting bigger names and they end up settling for decent value players who play better than their contracts. Prior to the Superteam era that would’ve been great, but winning another championship requires more than loyalty contracts. I keep remembering the missed chances in the 2007-2013 seasons because PATFO was bent on saving dollars or signing washed out veterans (Stoudamire, Kurt Thomas, Finley, etc.). I always posited (to myself, at least) the Spurs could have invested in a nice young player to take over the reins to sustain momentum. It came in 2011 but it might have been a bit too late. Wasted Duncan’s prime either because of penny-pinching or SA just isn’t a top FA destination. I guess it’s the latter and it’s a problem too difficult to solve.

    Another point however is we haven’t seen this roster at full strength in almost a year. Whew.

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    Kawhi ain't comin back until Parker and Ginobili are gone.

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    Year in and year out, we see SA fail at recruiting bigger names and they end up settling for decent value players who play better than their contracts.
    Just out of curiosity, who are these teams getting "the bigger names" to join them?

    Of the 30 NBA teams, how many have signed a bigger FA than LMA in the last five years?

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    Just out of curiosity, who are these teams getting "the bigger names" to join them?

    Of the 30 NBA teams, how many have signed a bigger FA than LMA in the last five years?
    Correct me if I’m wrong but the Spurs tried to get Chris Paul through FA, Kyrie through trade, none of which panned out.

    2017
    Hayward to Boston
    Millsap to Nuggets

    2016
    Durant to GS
    Horford to BOS

    2015
    Monroe to MIL

    Of all these players, arguably only Durant is better than LMA. If your point is that SA does not have a hard time attracting huge names, take note Aldridge heavily considered SA not only because of the talent but because it’s closer to home.

    Bigger cities always have leverage over the smaller markets, except for the Lakers who are understandably being refused for good reason.

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    Just out of curiosity, who are these teams getting "the bigger names" to join them?

    Of the 30 NBA teams, how many have signed a bigger FA than LMA in the last five years?
    And which of them are in big markets?

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    Kawhi ain't comin back until Parker and Ginobili are gone.
    Most likely Kawhi to be traded while Parker gets a new loyalty contract.

    That's how things work. If you don't like..there's the door, Dewayne Dedmon.

    For a reason Parker brought Joff and we missed Dedmon.

    What's about Parker as Spurs' GM after RC gone?
    https://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/...-a-7957851.php

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    I saw Yahoo and didn't even bother clicking. ing horse

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    And which of them are in big markets?
    To backtrack a bit:

    2010
    James, Bosh to MIA

    2012
    Caron Butler (Spurs courted him) bolted to LAC
    Chandler to NYK
    Billups to LAC

    2013
    Ray Allen to MIA
    Jamal Crawford to LAC
    Steve Nash to LAL
    Elton Brand to DAL

    2015
    Pau Gasol to CHI

    *may have gotten my dates wrong

    May I just note that desirability isn’t just measured by stars coming to your team, but even scrubs. I recall having Danny Granger spurn the Spurs for Miami (though he wasn’t really playable), Caron Butler refuse the Spurs multiple times. Remember that time practically every big man save for Francisco Elson said no to the Spurs.

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    We courted for Greg Oden, which was for the best. We did get Finley way back though. Bret Barry to a lesser extent but that was a match made in heaven. LMA was huge though.

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    To backtrack a bit:

    2010
    James, Bosh to MIA

    2012
    Caron Butler (Spurs courted him) bolted to LAC
    Chandler to NYK
    Billups to LAC

    2013
    Ray Allen to MIA
    Jamal Crawford to LAC
    Steve Nash to LAL
    Elton Brand to DAL

    2015
    Pau Gasol to CHI

    *may have gotten my dates wrong

    May I just note that desirability isn’t just measured by stars coming to your team, but even scrubs. I recall having Danny Granger spurn the Spurs for Miami (though he wasn’t really playable), Caron Butler refuse the Spurs multiple times. Remember that time practically every big man save for Francisco Elson said no to the Spurs.
    Your research is commendable.

    My point is only that all fan bases think that their team should get most of the big FAs. It's logistically impossible so most fans feel like their team is uniquely unable to get their fair share of great players.

    In fact, most teams get no big-name FAs. Even the Lakers have signed no one of note in years.

    If Spurs fans feel slighted, trust me, Laker fans are still pining over Aldridge and complaining about how they blew that awkward seduction.

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    They won a le in 2014 and went to the conference finals last year. What a load of horse .
    Exactly. And they're in the playoffs this year. Outside of the Leonard thing they still are ridiculously successful over the last 20 years.

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    Correct me if I’m wrong but the Spurs tried to get Chris Paul through FA, Kyrie through trade, none of which panned out.

    2017
    Hayward to Boston
    Millsap to Nuggets

    2016
    Durant to GS
    Horford to BOS

    2015
    Monroe to MIL

    Of all these players, arguably only Durant is better than LMA. If your point is that SA does not have a hard time attracting huge names, take note Aldridge heavily considered SA not only because of the talent but because it’s closer to home.

    Bigger cities always have leverage over the smaller markets, except for the Lakers who are understandably being refused for good reason.
    I mean Hayward only went to Boston cause his college coach is there, tbh.

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    "Gobbleeygook"...
    When these two realize Jabari Young RT this article..I can hear them "Kawhi, take your Jabari guy and go away"


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    The only part I took umbrage with was the Zaza reference. He’s basically saying SA pushed Kawhi to play against his best interest and that directly led to Zaza being able to deliver the “knockout blow”.

    What? First of all, SA sat Kawhi in a MUST WIN PLAYOFF game vs Houston the round before so that doesn’t make sense. Also, almost all players play unless its a terrible injury in the playoffs. How on Earth could you imply that SA didn’t protect Kawhi by letting him play vs GS (after they already sat him before in a playoff game just a week before) and then say that setup Kawhi for a bad injury?

    Ridiculous
    While I agree with u... The game against Houston WASN'T a must-win

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    When these two realize Jabari Young RT this article..I can hear them "Kawhi, take your Jabari guy and go away"

    I interact with Jabari all the time - I have no issues with him at all even though, like you, I don’t agree with a lot of his Kawhi takes

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    op-ed makes it seem so easy to duplicate and yet hardly anyone has duplicated.
    Right? Just add three parts European, add 1 part floor spacing, bake at 200 minutes of rest, and enjoy 5 rings.

    That author is clearly harboring angst.

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    Kawhi ain't comin back until Parker and Ginobili are gone.
    I have a feeling you may be right on that. Even if the Spurs and PATFO want him back, and Kawhi was willing to come back, I have a feeling that he would only sign under the condition they retire.

    All of which just makes me think the Spurs are likely to trade him this offseason.

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    Manu type players are dime a dozen. Lou Williams, Jamal Crawford, Eric Gordon, etc

    Tony Parker is a Top 5 PG of all time. Never forget that son
    top 5 pg all time? according to whom other than his family members?

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    Manu type players are dime a dozen. Lou Williams, Jamal Crawford, Eric Gordon, etc

    Tony Parker is a Top 5 PG of all time. Never forget that son
    Parker isn't even top 5 PG he met on the floor duing his career

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    Horrible takes in a horribly written article tbh.

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