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    Bringing the Manu/Pau comparisson when one makes 7 times more money per year than the other.

    If Pau's salaray wasn't such a handicap on the team's offseason aspirations nobody would give a about Pau. He's fine as the backup center. Just not at that price.
    I disagree - I think money definitely plays a role, but preception is the bigger deal. Manu compared to Pau, if asked by 100 people regardless of money, who was much better in the season/playoffs statistically 100 would say Manu

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    I disagree - I think money definitely plays a role, but preception is the bigger deal. Manu compared to Pau, if asked by 100 people regardless of money, who was much better in the season/playoffs statistically 100 would say Manu
    And they wouldn't be wrong, tbh. Sometimes you need to put stats into context. There's a reason Manu was out there with the season on the line QBing the offense while Pau could barely see playing time.

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    And they wouldn't be wrong, tbh. Sometimes you need to put stats into context. There's a reason Manu was out there with the season on the line QBing the offense while Pau could barely see playing time.
    Manu threw the ball away in the biggest moment of the game Maybe Pau should have been in tbh..

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    Manu threw the ball away in the biggest moment of the game Maybe Pau should have been in tbh..
    Without Manu out there running the offense the game would have been out of reach by that point. But whatever, keep trolling just because you are mad I called you out.

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    Without Manu out there running the offense the game would have been out of reach by that point. But whatever, keep trolling just because you are mad I called you out.
    I just provided facts and stats. Please feel free to develop a counter argument to what I have presented.

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    Manu threw the ball away in the biggest moment of the game Maybe Pau should have been in tbh..
    That turn over.... :/

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    I just provided facts and stats. Please feel free to develop a counter argument to what I have presented.
    I just did. Now you are feel free to disagree but acting as if I haven't brought the points about Pau's salaray and the fact that Manu was out there, with the season on the line, having to act as the only Spurs capable offense initiatior at age 41 is as dishonest as saying Manu has had a full year looking as done as Tony did this season. Apparently dishonesty is your thing.

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    I just did. Now you are feel free to disagree but acting as if I haven't brought the points about Pau's salaray and the fact that Manu was out there, with the season on the line, having to act as the only Spurs capable offense initiatior at age 41 is as dishonest as saying Manu has has a full year looking as done as Tony did this season. Apparently dishonesty is your thing.
    You did? Please show me where you developed a counter argument using stats to back up your perceptions and to counter what I presented.

    You never talk basketball. You talk Manu. Your capitulation is glaring.

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    Manu is making 15 less millions per year. I wouldn't mind Pau for 2.5 millions per year, one bit.
    exactly what i was about to say.

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    exactly what i was about to say.
    What does money have to do with on court performance? Manu was making 14M just last season and had a PER of 13.9.

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    What I did is paint you into a corner intentionally for two reasons:

    You never talk real basketball.

    To make a point that you yourself don’t use context when you do speak.

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    You did? Please show me where you developed a counter argument using stats to back up your perceptions and to counter what I presented.

    You never talk basketball. You talk Manu. Your capitulation is glaring.
    Yeah, I have never talked Kawhi, Aldridge, Tony, Duncan, Gasol, Paul, Lebron, etc. But then again, I know I'm dealing with a dishonest mother er.

    And the stats are the stats you provided (I guess, I didn't even care to check, which knowing you is probably a mistake, but whatever). What other stats do you want me to provide? So instead of stats, I provided some context by coming up with facts, like for example: Manu was the QB of the Spurs with the season on the line, while Pau was sitting on the bench. That's probably why most people think Manu was better than Pau this season. Because when it was winning time you could count on Manu and not so much on Pau.

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    What does money have to do with on court performance? Manu was making 14M just last season and had a PER of 13.9.
    Manu didn't have another 14 millions season handicapping the cap space after that one. The money Manu made that season was irrelevant on the Spurs roster aspirations.

    "Paint you into a corner".

    Guy freaking out about Manu saying he was an atheist trying to play the "I'm intelectually superior" card.

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    You did? Please show me where you developed a counter argument using stats to back up your perceptions and to counter what I presented.

    You never talk basketball. You talk Manu. Your capitulation is glaring.

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    Yeah, I have never talked Kawhi, Aldridge, Tony, Duncan, Gasol, Paul, Lebron, etc. But then again, I know I'm dealing with a dishonest mother er.

    And the stats are the stats you provided (I guess, I didn't even care to check, which knowing you is probably a mistake, but whatever). What other stats do you want me to provide? So instead of stats, I provided some context by coming up with facts, like for example: Manu was the QB of the Spurs with the season on the line, while Pau was sitting on the bench. That's probably why most people think Manu was better than Pau this season. Because when it was winning time you could count on Manu and not so much on Pau.
    But the Spurs won one game and Manu turned it over . Could you really count on him if that was the result? Just being in, does not mean he did well.

    When TP was in the game does that mean it was because he was doing well and you couldn’t trust anyone else? Or is that only with Manu regardless of results?

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    Manu didn't have another 14 millions season handicapping the cap space after that one. The money Manu made that season was irrelevant on the Spurs roster aspirations.

    "Paint you into a corner".

    Guy freaking out about Manu saying he was an atheist trying to play the "I'm intelectually superior" card.
    Freaking out? Not at all. But now that you have been exposed and called out by others, the claws come out

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    Freaking out? Not at all. But now that you have been exposed and called out by others, the claws come out
    Please, show me an example of somebody calling me out and exposing me on this matter.

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    Me, Chinook. Been plenty of others. In fact, you played yourself. I said you are incapable of talking basketball, framing a logical argument and presenting your case and what do you do? You try to take the convo from basketball to religion

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    Me, Chinook. Been plenty of others. In fact, you played yourself. I said you are incapable of talking basketball, framing a logical argument and presenting your case and what do you do? You try to take the convo from basketball to religion
    I have talked plenty basketball and I will continue doing so. I just couldn't let a guy, that thinks that someone saying that he doesn't believe in all-mighty being is some super controversial thing to say, talk to me as if he had the intelectual capacity of painting me into any kind of corner, tbh.

    BTW, I guess you realized how easy it was for me to escape from this imaginary corner you had me in, right?

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    I have talked plenty basketball and I will continue doing so. I just couldn't let a guy, that thinks that someone saying that he doesn't believe in all-mighty being is some super controversial thing to say, talk to me as if he had the intelectual capacity of painting me into any kind of corner, tbh.
    Well you did my friend. Sorry Charlie

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    Well you did my friend. Sorry Charlie
    "sorry Charlie"?

    That's some top intelectual, athesit freaking, paint you into the corner, notch right there, tbh.

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    It was a reference to a troll on here because that is exactly what I was doing

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    Top notch trolling reference son.

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    If SA can jettison Pau and Mills and give up just one first that would be big. Hopefully Mills playoffs played him into a value asset which is definitley possible.
    Spurs are keeping both. Don’t delude yourself.
    Davis and Kyle have bigger chances of getting snatched up . Heck Spurs may keep Bryn Forbes since he might come back on a minimum deal. Just the way it is.
    Danny might be gone as we discussed in the other thread though it wouldn’t surprise me to see him back either...

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