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Without Leonard, they couldn’t even win on the ing road to save their lives. Take Duncan off those teams with a prime Ginobili/Parker and they don’t go down in flames like this roster did. I’m sorry, but this roster outstide of Kawhi isn’t promising at all.
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That’s exactly what I thought. Spoken like a coward truly lacking testicular for ude.
This line of thinking boggles me. Gasol and mills contracts is ur only reasonable point. People in here act like it’s so easy to just add stars. You have to either luck out in the draft or sell off your future for today and that second option has paralyzed most teams from being able to do anything.. the two bad contracts are also most likely paybacks for taking less earlier. As hard as that might be to accept, it helps convince future FAs they will be taken care of.. I’ve watched this league for 30 years and if it were as easy as you make it sound, we would all be GMs
so at least give a scenario in which pop adds two all stars in the last year or two.
Pretty much this. I always subtract 1 year from any deal that a player signs since it's easy to trade any player in their final contract year. Gasol's contract after 2019 will become a valuable asset like you said.
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He wasn’t a FA in 2003. That was the summer of Kidd. It was circus enough, but if Tim were a FA, it would have been bedlam.
Perhaps Memphis will take him back for sentimental reasons? We could throw in a future first round draft pick to sweeten the deal.
With Gasol off the books and Green and Gay opting out, the Spurs will have the cap space to make a run at a significant free agent this offseason.
He had an opt out clause and used it in the summer of '03 to help the Spurs clear up cap space to go after Kidd,Jermaine O'neal, and Brand. Spur failed to sign those guys but once they signed Rasho, Tim re-upped and signed another max deal.
I'd be more receptive to this argument had he played and faced a 2001 sweep like the one you described from Timmy D. Since he missed an entire season and teams without their stars playing aren't the same... this is a bleh and stupid point.
And I don't like this roster very much at all... it's just that with him not playing an entire season, that was nothing Timmy D ever did..
SA with no Kawhi may end up putting up just as good of a fight vs GS as a stacked HOU
GS was missing Curry when they played us, remember...
With Fat Gasol and Conley, they have zero cap room.
SA was also missing Kawhi though. HOU is fully healthy and this is it for them.
cant believe we gave the mills and gasol contracts in the same offseason. what a show
there was no universe where having gasol opt out of 1/16 for the spurs to give him 3/48 made literally any sense.
My friend, like it or hate, the logic was already explained. SA miscalculated badly either CP3 or someone else they were targeting. They had to convince Pau to opt out in order to get a chance to sign a big free agent (thought to have been CP3). Pau would have gotten less money had they landed that person which was not possible unless he opted out.
The deal was though, that if Pau did that for SA he would get paid more for doing them a favor if they whiffed which they did.
It sucks, but you can’t go back on deals like that if you are a great organization. Mills deal sucks, but it’s not that bad all things considered. He still played himself into positive value even though I wish they didn’t do it.
holy speculation batman
so the deal was "hey pau, why dont you opt out of one year, and if we dont get the player we want, you can us in the ass for 3 years"
makes no sense. would have made sense if they signed him for less annually, but still above his market value. like 3/36 or somethin. similar to when RJ opted out of 15 to get 4/40 or whatever that was
but yeah, mills showing up for the playoffs was somewhat redeeming, though he is still grossly overpaid for his role
Dude, it’s not speculation. It was reported IIRC (not the specifics of the contract, but why he opted out when he did). Again, SA are not idiots; there is a reason they rewarded Pau with that deal if you just think about it logically.
Also, you said 3/36 which is basically what he got since the last year is only 6M guaranteed. The guaranteed money is 3/38
And don’t get me wrong; Im not defending it. They wildly miscalculated obviously but can’t fault them for being aggressive.
It's almost impossible to convince someone who employs results-based thinking. Especially when many of those same people like to on the FO for standing pat so often. They must think that bold moves are always necessary and they always work out.
let him keep building the timberbulls.
I am very confident in SA’s FO despite some missteps. Kawhi is the one throwing a wrench in things big picture.
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