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  1. #26
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    If you win the last game of the series, no one remembers how ty you played the games prior.

  2. #27
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    Nope. 3 of the greatest Spurs of all time were on that 2001 team. Didn't matter. Kobe mopped the floor with their ing ass.

    Kobe

    You'd know about mopping floors, eh squidmo?

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    You'd know about mopping floors, eh squidmo?

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    Narratives suck. Loser of this series is going to be labelled chokers. We're watching 2 historically great teams duel it out.
    With Paul out, Rockets are off the hook for the choker label.
    But it does increase the choke factor should GSW lose.

  5. #30
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    Sometimes it's addition by subtraction. You noticed they had a worse record last year after finishing 73-9, right?

    Perhaps Durant disrupts their flow of chemistry. He's good for bailing them out if they have a cold shooting night but is a ball stopper in a more free flowing offense, taking shots away from the other stars.
    That's re ed. You don't add a player of Durbeta's caliber and get worse. He's a but he's far from a cancer. Coasting/injuries is why their regular season record wasn't as good not because they got worse.

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    to CN, there is no way a team can lose this series without choking.

  7. #32
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    to CN, there is no way a team can lose this series without choking.
    So if both teams play to their potential, we could have 3 or 4 teams in the Finals.

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    So if both teams play to their potential, we could have 3 or 4 teams in the Finals.
    thats the only logical outcome of his position

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    Not a CP3 fan, but the Rockets don't win game 5 without his contributions, obviously.
    If the Warriors can't beat the Rockets without CP3, that's a huge choke but there's only one team in NBA history that's choked away a 3-1 finals lead. That's a singular event that can't be topped, until someone blows a 3-0 lead I reckon.

    Unfortunately, the Warriors ain't losing, since I can't imagine how the Rockets compensate for CP3's loss.

    Warriors get the benefit of an injury AGAIN.

    Just once, I'd like to see one of their starters go down.

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    It just isnt a historical choke losing to a 65 win team with 2 top 10 players.

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    It just isnt a historical choke losing to a 65 win team with 2 top 10 players.
    When you have two prime MVPs, two All-Stars, and a Finals MVP coming off the bench, losing any series to any team is a choke.

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    True... but this isnt as big a choke as 2016 IMO tbh fwiw we staaaaacked

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    FkLA, post 30.

    I'm talking about disrupting chemistry. Just because you have a team full of all-stars doesn't mean you always win, look at Team USA after 1992.
    Last edited by Caltex2; 05-25-2018 at 08:47 PM.

  14. #39
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    When you have two prime MVPs, two All-Stars, and a Finals MVP coming off the bench, losing any series to any team is a choke.
    If the Rockets lose, they choked because they are the 1st seed.
    If the Warriors lose, they choked because they are better than that.

    The truth is when a series goes 6 or more games, especially the conference finals, no one chokes unless they are up 25 in the 4th and lose. Both teams have moments of brilliance and ball movement and both teams have longer moments of chaotic, ready to go home, YMCA level play. Even the worst of that is better than the 1st round losing team (cough SPURS cough)

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    FkLA, post 30.

    I'm talking about disrupting chemistry. Just because you have a team full of all-stars doesn't mean you always win, look at Team USA after 1992.
    They won last year, in KD's first year. So magically in his 2nd year he's a chemistry killer?

    lol no

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    They won last year, in KD's first year. So magically in his 2nd year he's a chemistry killer?

    lol no
    Actually, yes. I wouldn't say he's a "chemistry killer," but he's certainly making it worse.

    Last year, Durbeta fit in more to the team concept and they won. Since winning a cheap ring didn't end up changing anyone's opinion of him, Durbeta has now gone full iso-chucker like the OKC days in a desperate attempt to convince everyone that he's carrying the team. However, all his isoball has accomplished is exposing his lack of truly elite playmaking skills and underwhelming BBIQ, preventing his teammates from getting in rhythm and hurting their chances of winning.

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    Eric Gordon and Capella are good. Donkey is overrated.

    No need to exaggerate the potential choke. 73-9 team adding an in his prime, once in a lifetime talent is enough to make them the biggest chokers ever if they manage to lose.
    The 73-9 was more a reflection on the lack of decent teams in the NBA, tbh.

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    They won last year, in KD's first year. So magically in his 2nd year he's a chemistry killer?

    lol no
    They could win this year and he could still be considered one. Their choke in 2016 aside, the Warriors have been the best team each of the last three years but have gotten progressively worse since Durant came on board. It's fair to speculate that he has hurt the flow of their offense and is good for bailing them out against above average or worse teams when the sharpshooters are having an off game.

    There's no way the Warriors should be trailing this series, granted, they were lucky to beat the Rockets in 5 three years ago.

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    They could win this year and he could still be considered one. Their choke in 2016 aside, the Warriors have been the best team each of the last three years but have gotten progressively worse since Durant came on board. It's fair to speculate that he has hurt the flow of their offense and is good for bailing them out against above average or worse teams when the sharpshooters are having an off game.

    There's no way the Warriors should be trailing this series, granted, they were lucky to beat the Rockets in 5 three years ago.
    They're still a basketball team, not gods. They can be beaten just like Miami could be beaten by a team of mostly D league players. All it takes is to find their Achilles heel. Easier said than done, but the Rockets have gone after Steph relentlessly to the point where he's even lost some of his swag until he gets back home and even then only after he hits a few long range shots. KD probably feels like it's on him. Steph isn't 100%, his shooting is still off just a bit and he's hesitant (did you see him pass up that wide open look last game on that steal?, never happens otherwise). So outside of the big 3, they have no real offense other than Iggy. He's injured.

  20. #45
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    Actually, yes. I wouldn't say he's a "chemistry killer," but he's certainly making it worse.

    Last year, Durbeta fit in more to the team concept and they won.
    Phucking asterisk with the Zaza takeout of Kwa.

    He looked full on OKC Durant up to that point.

  21. #46
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    Top3 NBA Choke Jobs IMO:

    1. 2016 Finals: Historical great Warriors team losing despite being up 3:1. This one is on Donkey.

    2. 2007 First Round: Dallas losing to the Warrior in the first round (well Denver beating Seattle in '94 was good too but that was a 5 game series).

    3. 2013 Finals Game 6: It hurts but the final seconds of regulation need to be mentioned...But it doesn't hurt anymore as this got us 2014 (I believe, we ain't winning this one, if we win in 2013).

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    (I believe, we ain't winning this one, if we win in 2013).
    Wade and Bosh were so washed by 2014 that the Spurs had a repeat on lock if 6 didn't happen.

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    Wade and Bosh were so washed by 2014 that the Spurs had a repeat on lock if 6 didn't happen.
    I think what happened 2013 gave the Spurs the motivation to go all the way again. They don't get past OKC in the WCF without that.

    Also, if they win the prior year that again puts the bullseye on them, which they never liked.

    I may be wrong with all of this, but in my book, it wasn't a wasted championship but only a perfect revenge story.

  24. #49
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    As time passes by the 2007 Mavs choke doesnt fee that bad. That tram won 67 games but wasnt historic ir special at all, metrics wise... Warriors flat outplayed us.

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    The Mavs would have just choked against Utah instead if they got past GSW.

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