Well he also defeated a pretty good Indiana and Utah team as well, and not rookie Tatum and 21 year old Brown. What Jordan did in 98 was just as heroic, at an even older age.
Last edited by endrity; 05-28-2018 at 10:31 AM.
So apparently, Kyrie didn't attend Game 7. He's so salty and butthurt that neither team was missing his chucking and matador defense.
He needs to realize that, just like his idol Kobe, he will never be the alpha on a contender. He's just not good enough for that status.
Last edited by Clipper Nation; 05-28-2018 at 09:40 AM.
Jordan gets the nod for giving a about the regular season. Lebron simply doesn't. He's part of a newer generation of players who believe getting to the playoffs is all that matters. Jordan had/has a massive ego, probably was/is a real prick to live with. I'd bet you cannot even play Monopoly with him without him trying to flex on you. Lebron is less into basketball from an ego standpoint. He's still there, but no one has ever, imo, been as OTT about it as Jordan. So the 72 win season didn't really need to be a 72 win season, and the Warriors won 73 games with no one remotely close to Jordan's abilities. I'd say they didn't even have a Pippen level player. They just had out of this world shooting and good basketball all around.
Also, Jordan's Bulls probably couldn't hang with today's teams that take 40 3pt shots a game. A 20pt deficit in Jordan's day meant you're in garbage time in the middle of the 3rd. Today, you'd need almost 40 to be there because teams can make 20-0 runs in just a couple minutes. This is what Lebron has to contend with yet he plays more to the rim than from the arc.
So it's not really a good comparison between the two, but they definitely stand up there atop the pile.
I will respectfully disagree. The reason why the MJ v. LBJ argument took center stage this season in the media was due to LeBron deciding he wanted to play every game and being the MVP front-runner at 33 for about 2-3 solid months at the beginning of the season. He went through a mini-slump in mid-January to February when I guess he needed to force management to retool the roster. But we'd never be having this argument if LeBron hadn't played much of this season with a focus and determination reminiscent of Jordan.
In addition, LeBron's entire argument on this debate relies on the longevity brought by playing more regular seasons. We know he ain't never breaking the 6 for 6 with 6 Finals MVP peak playoffs argument for MJ or the average per game scoring rates or average PER and WS/48 statistics. He is already behind and those averages will decrease as gets older and the lesser years begin to reduce the numbers. LeBron has to do it through an ac ulation of total statistics that are mostly reliant on the regular season.
So no, I think LeBron both cares and actually needs to care for the regular season to eventually be able to win this argument. 20 spring games every season are too little of a sample to judge and it's not like he will win that argument either.
Just wait till they get smoked by either the Warriors or Rockets. This thread will never die.
just like last year with Kyrie, LMAO
The "Kyrie" (Kobe) stans will bump this thread every time the Cavs lose a game, regardless of whether or not it makes sense.
They got smoked last season with Irving so... yeah, RIP, tbh.
The alt doesn't get it...
BNSF doesn't get it...
Only CN gets it. Lebron can lose the first game of next season and Warriors/Lakers Fans will bump this thread.
Looking forward to see George Hill average 30 PPG and close out the dubsThis thread belongs in the history books
Replaced by George Hill, an average NBA starter, yet the Cavs will finish with the same result as last year..
"Minimal impact" as you described it recently
None of that is relevant, that was an eternity ago, Durant wasn't even on the Warriors rosterLooking forward to see George Hill average 30 PPG and close out the dubs
"Minimal impact" as you described it recently
This thread is finished..the Cavs replaced Irving with George Hill, yet they still reached the Finals..that's all there is to know..he has yet to prove that he has ANY impact on a team without LeBron and he's had plenty of chances to do it..
Killa' Kyrie doesn't miss that second free throw
Exhibit A
Looking forward to see George Hill average 30 PPG and close out the dubs
Hill gots it up in the worse way three days after Harlem talking him up
Game 1 of the 2017 Finals, with Kyrie: Cavs lose by 22 in regulation
Game 1 of the 2018 Finals, without Kyrie: Cavs lose by 10 in OT
Killa' Kyrie doesn't miss that second free throw
Calling him an average NBA starter is talking him up?Hill gots it up in the worse way three days after Harlem talking him up
With that game 1 performance, all Cleveland needs now is a win and they will have surpassed what they did with Irving, last year..
he doesn’t need kyrie. he just needs a guard better than jr smith if you’re facing a stacked team like the warriors
the only difference between kylie and lowry is flashiness .. they're about as good tbh.
Game 2, 2017 Finals, with Kyrie: Cavs lose by 19
Game 2, 2018 Finals, without Kyrie: Cavs lose by 19
That impact
LeBron misses KD in a Thunder uniform.
Klay just ended this discussion forever in favor of killa' Kyrie
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