Danny Green on ESPN2: "Kawhi has told me verbally he wants to stay here"

[SAGirl]

I doubt Green opts in tbh. He fired his agent and his new agent only gets paid when he has a new deal that he helped negotiate. Green probably takes a 3 or 4 year deal, for less than $10 million per year. Thing is, the teams that will have cap space are generally bad and probably aren't going to want him because of his age and they don't need a veteran for more than the minimum the playoff teams that would want him won't have the cap space- or even the full MLE (Cleveland, Washington, OKC, GSW, Portland, etc.)

I could see him re-signing for 3 years, $27 million or 4 years, $36 million-that's more than what the MLE would be, even though he probably wouldn't even get that on the open market.

As what he said about Kawhi, I don't buy it. Him and Kawhi seem close and he's probably doing him a solid because Kawhi is getting killed for peacing-out on the Spurs this season. That doesn't mean that he won't be back but if the Spurs decide that he isn't worth the supermax then they'll trade him-hopefully they'll come to a conclusion by the draft though.

hhhhmmm
Thanks for highlighting the bolded portion.
I had forgotten about that and thus I was thinking opting in was at least a 50% probability. He could have announced it already if that was the case (players like Cory Joseph and others that already know they will opt in, have already announced it).

I now tend to think that he is waiting out to see what happens with Kawhi, what the Spurs are offering, (are they retooling vs rebuilding, or are they dumping contracts to make space for a Lebron---unlikely IMO). Anyways, he will see what happens and go from there.

[SAGirl]

He said as much with his "Spur for life" comment to the media.. He didn't say it w/ much confidence directly, so I'm not gonna get too excited over Danny's claim.

The entire sentence is very true.


He already said it to the media, succintly and unconvincingly but he said something... He could easily have said something to Danny as well.

But Danny also had reservations, the same as all of us still have them. In the same breath he said Kawhi wants to be back, he also said that it's still up in the air.

There is a difference between what one man says and what he does. Until he's signed to a long-term deal, anything said doesn't have more weight than acts and things done.

I'd like Kiwi back if he's going to be healthy and committed to the team going forward. This interview from Danny doesn't really give insight to answer those two questions...

[exstatic]

So we officially don't believe what anybody has to say about the matter now?

Okay.

What's funny is that DG said "there" not "here" as if he too has already checked out.

[SAGirl]

What's funny is that DG said "there" not "here" as if he too has already checked out.

I missed that. I have to look at it again...

Edit: you are right... the subconscious mind breaks through.

[exstatic]

hhhhmmm
Thanks for highlighting the bolded portion.
I had forgotten about that and thus I was thinking opting in was at least a 50% probability. He could have announced it already if that was the case (players like Cory Joseph and others that already know they will opt in, have already announced it).

I now tend to think that he is waiting out to see what happens with Kawhi, what the Spurs are offering, (are they retooling vs rebuilding, or are they dumping contracts to make space for a Lebron---unlikely IMO). Anyways, he will see what happens and go from there.

He'll be able to see the draft, and any trades that happen during that night, but he has to opt in or out by June 29.

June 29

Last day for decisions on player, team and early termination options, unless individual contracts specify otherwise.

[Chinook]

What's funny is that DG said "there" not "here" as if he too has already checked out.

Danny wasn't in SA during that interview, right? Why would he say here?

[YGWHI]

While Danny says Kawhi wants to stay...Who knows if Parker and Manu want him in SA.

I just said Parker/Manu didnt see Kawhi as MVP candidate/top player...

If both players think he's expendable -in a sense they trust in Pop finding a good/better replacement- this could be a good reason for saying what they said.

A month ago I said that Parker/Manu don't see Kawhi as a top 5 player...People called me crazy...Well, I wasn't wrong.

I guess his tweet is very telling...Plus, Manu didn't answer his followers asking why he didn't mention Kawhi.

[exstatic]

While Danny says Kawhi wants to stay...Who knows if Parker and Manu want him in SA.



A month ago I said that Parker/Manu don't see Kawhi as a top 5 player...People called me crazy...Well, I wasn't wrong.

I guess his tweet is very telling...Plus, Manu didn't answer his followers asking why he didn't mention Kawhi.

This is why I think he's gone. His 'group' has done their spin and said the right things, and now the Spurs are doing the same. They'll 'talk', nothing will be resolved, and both sides will move on.

[JPB]

While Danny says Kawhi wants to stay...Who knows if Parker and Manu want him in SA.



A month ago I said that Parker/Manu don't see Kawhi as a top 5 player...People called me crazy...Well, I wasn't wrong.

I guess his tweet is very telling...Plus, Manu didn't answer his followers asking why he didn't mention Kawhi.

Can't dominate from your couch.

[bklynspursfan]

While Danny says Kawhi wants to stay...Who knows if Parker and Manu want him in SA.



A month ago I said that Parker/Manu don't see Kawhi as a top 5 player...People called me crazy...Well, I wasn't wrong.

I guess his tweet is very telling...Plus, Manu didn't answer his followers asking why he didn't mention Kawhi.

It could also be people reading too much into stuff now. I mean he didn't mention Anthony Davis, or Giannis. Both have a legit case to be higher than WB. Who knows what he was thinking. Kawhi just missed basically an entire year of one of his prime years.

Manu has definitely talked about Kawhi being one of the greats and being "the guy" in previous seasons. He knows how dominant he is

[Killakobe81]

Why would he leave? He would need a damn good reason
He can get supermax in SA ...
I think the smoke was real (smoldering) but not a fire that can not be put out with a $200 million fire extinguisher

[DPG21920]

What Danny’s comments did do is discredit everyone who said Kawhi communicated with his teammates. Danny shed more light on that and admitted that no one including himself knew more than the media which was nothing. He pretty clearly stated he was not in the know during the season.

[Killakobe81]

What Danny’s comments did do is discredit everyone who said Kawhi communicated with his teammates. Danny shed more light on that and admitted that no one including himself knew more than the media which was nothing. He pretty clearly stated he was not in the know during the season.

Makes sense and i get the panic/frustration ...
But until he walks I don't believe the hype ...

Lakers FO better not plan on havimng a legit shot at KL ...

[DPG21920]

Makes sense and i get the panic/frustration ...
But until he walks I don't believe the hype ...

Lakers FO better not plan on havimng a legit shot at KL ...

I’m 50/50. I think there is a legit shot he’s gone but I’m with you that nothing is done yet. There are reasons to make it work even if it’s only temporary.

[exstatic]

I’m 50/50. I think there is a legit shot he’s gone but I’m with you that nothing is done yet. There are reasons to make it work even if it’s only temporary.

That could be what goes down. They may sign him, even to a SuperMax, only to flip him next summer with 5 years remaining on his contract. There would be MANY suitors then, with him all locked in until 2024.

[DPG21920]

Yup. Kawhi gets his money but loses some control over where he goes.

[SAGirl]

Why would he leave? He would need a damn good reason
He can get supermax in SA ...
I think the smoke was real (smoldering) but not a fire that can not be put out with a $200 million fire extinguisher

I am not sure what the issues are, but I suspect he's really been injured and the Spurs have reservations on that supermax... imagine he gets it and seasons like the one he just had is going to be the new normal... He might not really be worth that huge contract. I am speculating, but I have all along been worried about his injury.

[Chinook]

That could be what goes down. They may sign him, even to a SuperMax, only to flip him next summer with 5 years remaining on his contract. There would be MANY suitors then, with him all locked in until 2024.

Issue is, if you have Kawhi next season, even if you think you're going to trade him, you have to go all-in. That means trading prospects and picks to try to improves the back court and solidify the front court. Then, even if you get a decent haul for Leonard, you still are farther back in terms of rebuilding that you would have been had you traded him for somewhat less now. I think if you sign him, you have to go into it assuming it can work out long-term. Leonard, Aldridge and a good third option can win a le if things break right. If you can get that together (and you can if you sell the immediate future), you do it.

[DPG21920]

Issue is, if you have Kawhi next season, even if you think you're going to trade him, you have to go all-in. That means trading prospects and picks to try to improves the back court and solidify the front court. Then, even if you get a decent haul for Leonard, you still are farther back in terms of rebuilding that you would have been had you traded him for somewhat less now. I think if you sign him, you have to go into it assuming it can work out long-term. Leonard, Aldridge and a good third option can win a le if things break right. If you can get that together (and you can if you sell the immediate future), you do it.

I agree, but I think the fact that this core without Kawhi made it to the playoffs would give SA enough reason to just sign Kawhi and give it a run without facing too much backlash.

[YGWHI]

Can't dominate from your couch.

I mean he didn't mention Anthony Davis, or Giannis. Both have a legit case to be higher than WB.

Kawhi was MVP runner in 2016 and MVP top 3 candidate in 2017..KD missed a whole season in OKC and people still talked about him as elite.

Giannis doesn't reach his prime yet and this was best AD's season of his career. Kawhi had more better seasons and awards.

Manu has definitely talked about Kawhi being one of the greats and being "the guy" in previous seasons. He knows how dominant he is

I've said before that I never heard Manu talking about Kawhi as MVP or that type of player in his last two seasons.

[YGWHI]

What Danny’s comments did do is discredit everyone who said Kawhi communicated with his teammates. Danny shed more light on that and admitted that no one including himself knew more than the media which was nothing. He pretty clearly stated he was not in the know during the season.

Not really. If we believe Danny in previous interviews and other guys like Rudy Gay, they were talking all season about his injury...The same Danny talked about Kawhi's setbacks before media and how his injury got "worse in the summer" in Chris Broussard podcast.

[DPG21920]

Not really. If we believe Danny in previous interviews and other guys like Rudy Gay, they were talking all season about his injury...The same Danny talked about Kawhi's setbacks before media and how his injury got "worse in the summer" in Chris Broussard podcast.

I believe after the season, most recent Danny. Do you just dismiss what he said in this interview completely?

[ducks]

DOES DANNY WIPE HIS ASS
IS THAT WHY DANNY SUCKED THIS YEAR NO LEONARD TO SUCK ON

[duncan2k5]

Ginobili not handling this well at all... If it were anyone else we would torch them... Imagine if Westbrook tweeted this when he and KD were on the same team, and left KD out the top 5

[tholdren]

Ginobili not handling this well at all... If it were anyone else we would torch them... Imagine if Westbrook tweeted this when he and KD were on the same team, and left KD out the top 5

Lol