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    Still would rather have Kawhi play and lose him for nothing than do any of these deals.
    Prepare to be disappointed homie. I'm with you though.

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    Still would rather have Kawhi play and lose him for nothing than do any of these deals.
    If you can get a 4X AS, 2X All NBA guy, and a development project like Anunoby and another piece or two, and maybe offload a contract, you do it. DD doesn't have to be the guy here. I don't think you can get a better 'win now' deal than TOR.

    LA, Phi, and Bos deals are all . I would let him walk in lieu of any of those three.

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    spurs shouldn't trade him before the team usa minicamp.

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    spurs shouldn't trade him before the team usa minicamp.
    Why? He ain't showing.

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    spurs shouldn't trade him before the team usa minicamp.
    Why not?

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    If you can get a 4X AS, 2X All NBA guy, and a development project like Anunoby and another piece or two, and maybe offload a contract, you do it. DD doesn't have to be the guy here. I don't think you can get a better 'win now' deal than TOR.

    LA, Phi, and Bos deals are all . I would let him walk in lieu of any of those three.
    Toronto's deal is OK if it includes the right young players. I still wouldn't mind a Laker deal with Ingram, but I have a higher opinion of him that many here.

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    Lol... we both gave two sides of the coin with the simplest of questions.
    Nice.

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    Toronto's deal would be A1 if you replace that scrub Poelti with Siakam. Philly's trade scenarios are just terrible. And the Lakers can't be serious not including Ingram.

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    Toronto's deal is OK if it includes the right young players. I still wouldn't mind a Laker deal with Ingram, but I have a higher opinion of him that many here.
    Yeah, except Ingram isn't on the table. It's Hart and maybe Kuzma. deal.

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    Why? He ain't showing.
    if kawhi goes and is healthy his abilities will be on full display and his trade value will rise.

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    Yeah, except Ingram isn't on the table. It's Hart and maybe Kuzma. deal.
    Yep. So thumbs down.

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    if kawhi goes and is healthy his abilities will be on full display and his trade value will rise.
    But he's not going. He's only been to what? One practice his entire career? He's turned down invites before he became "disgruntled".
    He's not showing up.

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    But he's not going. He's only been to what? One practice his entire career? He's turned down invites before he became "disgruntled".
    He's not showing up.
    if he doesn't show up then the spurs are in the same spot they already are. it's worth waiting.

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    if he doesn't show up then the spurs are in the same spot they already are. it's worth waiting.
    Or it further degrades his value to everybody in a position to negotiate's eyes...

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    Ingram will be a fringe all star to me at best. I don’t see him being any better than Derozan to be honest. Lakers deal with Ingram is terrible.

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    Too bad he didn't wig out last summer, we could have gotten Oladipo and Sabonis. I always liked Dipo. I can't remember which dumb here laughed when I said Dipo was an All-Star. He would have been an awesome Spur.

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    Toronto's deal would be A1 if you replace that scrub Poelti with Siakam. Philly's trade scenarios are just terrible. And the Lakers can't be serious not including Ingram.
    Poeltl is athletic, younger, has size, and can hit the three, which is what you are looking for in the modern center. Sialam is nice, but may be nothing more than a situational PF.

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    I would guess the Spurs-Raptors deal is being held up over Raptors prospects. Toronto probably wants to hold onto OG in case Kawhi bolts.

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    Or it further degrades his value to everybody in a position to negotiate's eyes...
    the only way kawhi's trade value would be hurt by not going is if his injury is still lingering. if that's the case then it would be an issue anyways.

    low risk, potentially high reward.

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    Poeltl is athletic, younger, has size, and can hit the three, which is what you are looking for in the modern center. Sialam is nice, but may be nothing more than a situational PF.
    Poeltl does not hit the 3.

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    Ingram will be a fringe all star to me at best. I don’t see him being any better than Derozan to be honest. Lakers deal with Ingram is terrible.
    I disagree plus DeRozen costs way more ...
    But freely admit he is more about potential/upside over anything Ingram has proven.

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    Toronto's deal is OK if it includes the right young players. I still wouldn't mind a Laker deal with Ingram, but I have a higher opinion of him that many here.
    I'm with you. I like ingram getting him would be great. I also really like OG. And consider him 1b from ingram 1a.

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    I would guess the Spurs-Raptors deal is being held up over Raptors prospects. Toronto probably wants to hold onto OG in case Kawhi bolts.
    Supposedly, they're trying to work something with a third team, but also, supposedly, there is a framework in place for a straight up two team trade if that falls through.

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