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    Spurs are beginning to fire up trade talks with the Raptors again. This time the deal looks more likely to happen since they were very close to making a deal last week. Actually they had an agreement last week, but Toronto backed out. Hopefully we hear something soon. I was told last week the talks fell apart because of concerns over Kawhi's health. The Spurs believed the Raptors would comeback after thinking more on it. However, they had potential deals with the Clippers and The Suns, but felt Toronto would more likely be the team he would be traded to.

    Again something might happen today. I really hope so, so that Cris Carter can eat his words. I would love to hear what he has to say if this deal goes down.

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    Not that Jabari knows anything but I tend to agree with him that Kawhi is in this team until December at least

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    Kawhi can’t stop being a rental. Such stupidity. Idiot co-host didn’t ask the obvious follow up question whether Kawhi will sit out or refuse to report.

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    Spurs are beginning to fire up trade talks with the Raptors again. This time the deal looks more likely to happen since they were very close to making a deal last week. Actually they had an agreement last week, but Toronto backed out. Hopefully we hear something soon. I was told last week the talks fell apart because of concerns over Kawhi's health. The Spurs believed the Raptors would comeback after thinking more on it. However, they had potential deals with the Clippers and The Suns, but felt Toronto would more likely be the team he would be traded to.

    Again something might happen today. I really hope so, so that Cris Carter can eat his words. I would love to hear what he has to say if this deal goes down.


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    Kawhi and Pau for Middleton, Henson, Brogdan, and a first
    Yes.

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    Not sure if they really tried to play games to get the supermax because they knew they wouldn't get it since last season and more...It wasn't new.

    But they definitely tried to play hardball with PATFO in the trade talks...when it didn't work, they panicked and talks broke down roughly
    I do think the Spurs were going to undersell Kawhi with his contract. They've done it with all their stars. Kawhi's too stupid to look around and see how these guys are taken care of on the back end.

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    Spurs are beginning to fire up trade talks with the Raptors again. This time the deal looks more likely to happen since they were very close to making a deal last week. Actually they had an agreement last week, but Toronto backed out. Hopefully we hear something soon. I was told last week the talks fell apart because of concerns over Kawhi's health. The Spurs believed the Raptors would comeback after thinking more on it. However, they had potential deals with the Clippers and The Suns, but felt Toronto would more likely be the team he would be traded to.

    Again something might happen today. I really hope so, so that Cris Carter can eat his words. I would love to hear what he has to say if this deal goes down.

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    This ENTIRE thing is about getting the Super Max offer on the table....

    Don’t let anyone else try to tell you otherwise

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    This ENTIRE thing is about getting the Super Max offer on the table....

    Don’t let anyone else try to tell you otherwise
    Plus going to LA... they would be able to stage another crazy holdout next year. Might come up with another mystery injury and at $45M - $50 M/yr this time. Might make his trade value go down. Who knows...

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    “Still, the bidding war among Boston, Philadelphia and Los Angeles Lakers never materialized. The Los Angeles Clippers, Denver, Phoenix, Portland, Toronto and Washington are among teams who've talked with San Antonio, league sources said.

    As examples, no Blazers' package includes Damian Lillard or CJ McCollum, league sources said. For a player who teams fear could be a one-year rental, many offers are modified.

    So far, the Sixers have held out three players -- Joel Embiid, Ben Simmons and Markelle Fultz - in talks. Boston hasn't included five players, including Jayson Tatum, Jalen Brown, Kyrie Irving, Gordon Hayward and Al Horford. The Celtics and Sixers have offered pick-heavy packages that haven't moved the Spurs, league sources said.”

    horrible

    I wonder what crap Denver, Phoenix and Portland offered.

    You know Washington is offering Otto Porter and his horrible contract.
    This forum believes you guys have more leverage than you actually do. Been trying to say it but get shot down. You'll be disappointed with eventual package i'm certain

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    Thats a man baby

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    Jabari Young podcast notes:

    — How have things been with Spurs over last 2 weeks besides Kawhi and Tony? Jabari says everybody is on Kawhi-watch. Doesn’t really answer the question. Says if he had to guess he thinks Kawhi is in training camp. Everything has quieted down because Spurs demands are too high.

    — Host steers back to original question. Jabari mentions losing KA and TP. Gives KA credit for finding a good offer sheet. Says it’s popular to knock KA but can’t discount last season’s development. Compares him to Jonathan Simmons in that as soon as he figured things out, he left the team. Says Spurs will miss KA because he’s a playmaker and it’s a huge blow. Mentions Belinelli, Bertans, Forbes as guys that need to step up.

    — Expects a Ginobili decision in the next week.

    — Host brings up TP. Jabari says TP comments re: Kawhi were taken out of context and it was nonsense that he caught so much flak for it. Jabari says you got the feeling that if any of Big 3 were to ever leave, it might be Parker. Had a sense that TP had to prove himself to Spurs throughout his career. Says TP felt it was time to move on and his idolizing Jordan was a big factor. Batum and Borrego also helped. Tony did it his way and you have to respect that.

    — Host brings it back to Kawhi. Jabari says the Raptors rumor is ridiculous. Doesn’t make sense from a Toronto perspective because Derozen is no slouch and despite having a bad playoffs he’s been an all star longer than Kawhi. They finished #1 in the East and Lebron left. Jabari understands the appeal of Kawhi as a player but he won’t re-sign, so it amounts to a 1 year gamble. Jabari says if Masai is willing to break it up next year, he should give the current team one more shot because they’re just as good as Phi or Boston. Admits he might have to eat crow but it doesn’t make sense to him from a Toronto perspective. Thinks it’s a great trade from a San Antonio perspective because with Pop at head coach it would keep them near the top of the west.

    — Jabari again says unless something dramatic happens, Kawhi will start the season in SA. If he plays great, then trade offers will go up. It could work best for both sides to get the best trade.

    — Host asks about USA camp. Jabari says from what he’s heard from people behind the scenes, Kawhi will be there next week playing for Pop and you might finally hear from Kawhi himself. You’ll definitely hear Pop address the situation. Alludes to this perhaps being the first step of damage control to smoothing the path for Kawhi to play the first couple of months in SA

    — Host asks why Kawhi wants to leave in the first place? Jabari says he’s tired of talking about it and has reported on it extensively. The only thing left is for Kawhi to say he wants out himself. All eyes should be on Kawhi next week because he has to address why he as a man no longer wants to play on this team. Jabari says he just says what he knows and gets blamed for taking up for Kawhi. Jabari says he’s just reporting what he knows.

    — Any more moves besides Kawhi? Jabari says he can see a couple of vets in training camp. Mentions Gerald Henderson is trying to get back into the league but he doesn’t know of Spurs interest. They’re going to bring in a lot of bodies and make guys compete. Thinks the team has explored trading Pau but doesn’t see any takers. Nonetheless thinks a vet big is a possibility. Right now it seems like they’re full but can see a vet big or a young shooter that people gave up on. But for the most part he expects it to be quiet.
    Wait. Wasn't the Pau contract supposed to be very tradeable? At least that's what the PATFO fluffers have said for a year now to justify that deal. I am so SHOCKED to see no one is interested in Gasol.

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    Per Woj, Kawhi Leonard seriously considering participating at the USA mini-camp next week.
    Actually, he just tweeted an ESPN report by Big Mona.

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    Wait. Wasn't the Pau contract supposed to be very tradeable? At least that's what the PATFO fluffers have said for a year now to justify that deal. I am so SHOCKED to see no one is interested in Gasol.
    Where'd you see that?

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    Spurs are beginning to fire up trade talks with the Raptors again. This time the deal looks more likely to happen since they were very close to making a deal last week. Actually they had an agreement last week, but Toronto backed out. Hopefully we hear something soon. I was told last week the talks fell apart because of concerns over Kawhi's health. The Spurs believed the Raptors would comeback after thinking more on it. However, they had potential deals with the Clippers and The Suns, but felt Toronto would more likely be the team he would be traded to.

    Again something might happen today. I really hope so, so that Cris Carter can eat his words. I would love to hear what he has to say if this deal goes down.

    Hear anything about potential package? OG Anouby? involved?

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    This forum believes you guys have more leverage than you actually do. Been trying to say it but get shot down. You'll be disappointed with eventual package i'm certain
    Bend over, I'll ing show you a disappointing package.

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    Wait. Wasn't the Pau contract supposed to be very tradeable? At least that's what the PATFO fluffers have said for a year now to justify that deal. I am so SHOCKED to see no one is interested in Gasol.
    EVERYONE hated the Pau deal from jumpstreet. No one thought he was tradeable, especially not as anything other than a semi-expiring. SA could still use the team to bring in a better player with them giving other incentive. But trading it for value by itself? Nope. I responded to RealGMers suggesting as much not too long ago.

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    Actually, he just tweeted an ESPN report by Big Mona.
    Actually he co-wrote the article.

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    No. There is no development piece there. The youngest piece is Brogdon, who's already 25, and is what he is. Middleton is 26, and has his own checkered history, playing less than 30 games twice. Henson is 27.

    Very young players, like 19-21, and picks. An All Star, or All NBA player. Nothing else, or you're just taking out some other team's garbage.

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    I can tell you this right now: there will be no DPE offer unless Kawhi and The Group very publicly commit to SA. PATFO will want that on the record in case of future snaking.

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    Wait. Wasn't the Pau contract supposed to be very tradeable? At least that's what the PATFO fluffers have said for a year now to justify that deal. I am so SHOCKED to see no one is interested in Gasol.
    I agree with you but heard the same crap.
    I get it. they are rewarding his loyalty.
    He opted out to allow them flexibilty that IIRC led to them getting Gay or someone else.
    But dont play dumb that it wasn't a bad deal. Some will admit it now but it was bad deal even the day he signed it.
    Pau can still score a bit and pass but he is a slow footed big in pace and space league.

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