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You just compared DeRozan to LeBron. Really? Do you honestly, in your heart of hearts, think that the Spurs are in a better position going forward than the Lakers are?
Not looking for anything to be honest. Just sharing info I receive. I'm not trying to troll or whatever. I'm a Spurs fan who just wants this dude gone. The sooner the better.
You just compared DeRozan to LeBron. Really? Do you honestly, in your heart of hearts, think that the Spurs are in a better position going forward than the Lakers are?
Maybe I'm smoking hopium but I think White, Murray (Murray is a better passer than he's gotten to show in SA) and Beli could bring back a bit of the Beautiful Game, just need someone to pass out of the post.
Of course they are, the Lakers are a joke. And they'll be an even bigger joke if they fail to land Kawhi in free agency.
Maybe, but I'm sure his uncle will attempt to brainwash him into thinking it was the big, bad Spurs who were unwilling to play ball with the Lakers.
Actually, it does. I think Ujiri prefers to blow it up, but because DeRozan and Lowry have among the least trade value of any stars in the league, they're better off retaining them, churning out 50+ win seasons and continuing to probably do well financially . . . until this came up.
It's such a rare opportunity, especially for a team like them. They're uniquely positioned to take the risk, because how else do they get a top 5 player (other than fluking out picking in the he 20s)? If he leaves, they'll at least have lost DeRozan and by extension entered into a re-build by taking that chance, as opposed to trading him for the unimpressive package he'd otherwise garner.
Last edited by TD 21; 07-17-2018 at 06:04 PM.
Either way its not going to be cheap.
I got confused. Johnny cochran's wookie defense is predicated on the wookie not being from endor. Thats why it didnt make sense and you must acquit. I stand corrected.
Thanks to rd and the south park johnny cochran
I really don't get it from the Raptors perspective. They've literally waited this entire time, kept the group together through some ass whuppings, and then the minute LeBron leaves -- "Let's blow it up!". I'm not saying I doubt it but this seems like the exact time for them to run it back. Yeah they got swept but it's LeBron in James and he's gone now. This is their chance and they're going to blow it up for a rental? Seems odd.
Glad you're not taking anything personally. This thing is a cluster and I doubt anybody has any real insider info when the parties involved probably don't know what they're doing.
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They got swept by. Cavs squad that took 7 games to beat a bunch of 2nd year and rookie players the very next series. Toronto has 65M tied up in DeRozan and Lowry. Plus another 25 or so for Ibaka. Its definitely time to blow it up. Here they at least have an outside shot to get a legit generational player in Kawhi. If he walks, they start the rebuild. Makes great sense. Boston and Philly both stronger than last year and will likely beat the current Toronto squad.
Landing Kawhi isn't blowing up. Kawhi easily gets them to the ECF and maybe even the finals.
Yes, the Lakers are a joke, despite having the best player in the game, a lot of young talent, and the cap space to be able to add another max player next season. What an awful position to be in. The Lakers are 10-1 to win the NBA le this season, while the Spurs are 100-1.
As for Kawhi--the same guy that virtually this entire site has trashed--if the Lakers don't get him, they'll get another All-Star. You can't begrudge the Lakers for a failure to get Kawhi (if that happens) while y'all have trashed this very same guy for all the he's brought to the Spurs in the past year. Can't have that both ways.
Lol at gambling odds to help your self esteem.
With LeBron, I think you're looking at the last years of Kobe's career once again. Good job, there.
The Lakers are going to be a 5th or 6th seed at best. Your young players are trash. You know it and I know it.
Yes. Next year they are better but if he leaves, very real risk, they have to blow it up. Which for the Raptors I think they are fine with. Trade makes sense for both parties. It's about whether they can sell that to the Raptors owners and fans. If Kawhi leaves they see this as a clear loss when in reality it was a rebuild with a shot at Kawhi.
This is just so ridiculous and I don't even know why I bother to respond to you. Kobe was done the moment he snapped his Achilles. He was still great right up until that very moment. He didn't have it after that, was never the same. LeBron is still the best player in the game as we speak right now. Will he decline? Eventually, of course. But he isn't coming off of a devastating injury when the Lakers signed him, last time I checked.
They have to know he's not signing long term. The only way this makes sense (in my amateur ass opinion) is if they manage to keep DeRozan and Lowry and form a temporary big three with Leonard. That would truly be the only combination to make Boston or Philly say .. "Welp, ." Everything I see includes DeRozan though -- maybe I just don't get it. Kawhi, Lowry, and pieces don't scare me if I'm Boston or Philly.
What has M4T called before the national media was on it? He just seems like a good tea leaf reader. I made a lot posts throughout the year (Gordon in NO type holdout, Jordan shoe deal, wanting to be in LA, uncle is Lavar Ball, etc) that ended up being right, the only difference is I worded them as an opinion not as info I got from an "insider".
As far as Mo goes, I dont think TOR was even on anyone's radar until it was brought up by him out of nowhere in this thread so there's a chance his info is legit, imo.
I think that your point of giving it less than a year when SA is reasonably as good as everyone but GS in the West is silly was the point.
I’m not comparing DeRozan to Lebron. I’m comparing SA with DeRozan to LA with Lebron and year, in my heart of hearts think that SA would be better this year.
Would I say going forward? No. LA has more flexibility as of now, potential for young guys to grow and add more talent in free agency. But they thought they would get all that this year and it didn’t happen.
But without Lebron last year LA’s core won 35 games. They lost Brook Lopez and Randle and replaced them with Rondo/Lance/McGee essentially. So at best let’s call their team a wash. Then you add Lebron.
SA without Kawhi last year won 47 games. They lost TP, Kyle & Joff and replaced them with Beli, White & Cunningham. I think that is slightly worse, but we can call that a wash too. Then you add DeRozan and maybe OG.
So yes, I think if you look at both cores and adding Bron to LA this year and DeRozan to SA this year, that SA is a better team.
That, and his aggregated approval rating is 42% with 53% disapproval.
Simply put, he just isn't popular.
Theoretically if the Lakers have another losing season whom do you think gets blamed? The coach? Lack of star power? Or inexperience? Walton coached the Warriors to a 39-4 start in Kerr’s absence but he seems like a scrubby coach. Brad Stevens turned it around in Year 3 so if Walton fails to make anything out of a squad with LeBron what do you think happens?Just messing witcha. Agreed.
I love our kids, even though most of ST be hating.
I want a star, but I am genuinely curious to see the growth our kids will have playing with the best player in the game. I think we are gonna shock some people. Peep these interesting stats from our 47 losses last year:
- 26 losses by < 10 points
- 13 losses by < 7 points
- 7 losses by < 4 points
- 4 losses by < 3 points
All this without a star who could close for us. Now the kids have a year under their belt and in Luke's offense. Like Tatum and Brown, now Kuz and Ingram get to play off of a star. All that attention LBJ will get? Our young guns have an opportunity to make strides.
We beat several playoff teams last year with the youngest roster in the league. Maginka is wise to not give up the farm (yet). Trade deadline might be another matter tho
What? We trashed Kawhi for the off court stuff. The on court stuff even if we hate him is lauded. La wouldn’t have the off court stuff becaue he wants to be there.
And yes, La can get an all-star besides Kawhi (we assume), but there is no one better than Kawhi and LA would be worse with PG, Butler, Klay vs Kawhi
Well it's clearly an upgrade over DeRozan. Personally when healthy, Kawhi is the best player in the NBA imo. If it doesn't workout next rebuild. Toronto has terrible contracts.
Toronto does have a pretty big market with a small town vibe I've heard. Drake alone I'm sure would work with Kawh in and his group on bringing endorsements. It would really help Kawhi's mgmt to stick with a team and appear more loyal at this point.
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