Thoughts on Spurs Trading Danny Green For DeMar DeRozan and Jakob Poeltl

[Pavlov]

CIA Pop won't say what he wanted from Maginka. But yall wanted the whole farm and future picks from what I read. Boiled down: your hatred for the Lakers netted you 40 cents on the dollar. DeFrozen might not even make the Western Conference all star team, yet you traded your franchise player for him

You lied about what was offered.

lol

[SpursWoman]

Timvp analysis is why I came back to ST.

GOOD STUFF

Oh, my ...

[LkrFan]

Shaq didn't sit out the season and say he was only going to one place.

Shaq "healed on company time" and derailed our 2003 season. Same diff.

[Cry Havoc]

At least that will be covered now that he's in a nation with a real healthcare system.

Ooof, fam. Right in the feels.

And Texas healthcare is awful.

[SpursDynasty85]

Ingram is the one that needs to break out and be a "star".
Kyle just beeds to be a reliable shooter and scorer off the bench.
We did not alienate Kawhi yall FO did.
Hence why you accepted DD and his crappy contract for him.

For some reason I see him signing with the Clippers. If not, oh well. Lebron is getting old and he is definitely on the decline. Kuzma, Ingram, and Hart look good but can they coexist with Lebron? We will see.

[objective]

Yeah, OG on top of this trade would have made it much easier to swallow. Without him, it feels light.

But, yeah, with the Lakers refusing to give up anything, the Clippers having nothing, and only Masai having the testicular for ude to put actual assets on the table, the Spurs didn't have much choice other than to take this deal or let it get extremely messy.

Personally, I would have voted for messy but there's a lot more to the picture than people outside of Pop, RC and Uncle know about.



For the Spurs to be elite, they need Murray to take a huge step. In addition to that, they probably need White to turn into a valuable reserve. If Ginobili retires, then they definitely need White to produce.



So if Kawhi couldn't pass a physical for the USA camp, his value would have gone down to nothing. If Kawhi fails a physical or goes out there hobbling, the Raptors at the very least take Poeltl and the pick out of the trade.

Maybe the Spurs caved. Maybe Kawhi is broken. It's too early to tell at this point. The timing of the trade has me doubting Kawhi's health (or at least the Spurs' belief in his health) but I could be wrong.

I don't think he would have failed a physical, only refused to take one

And if value went down even more, so what? So instead of a depressed Max player who doesn't play defense, a number 28-30 pick, and a back up center that was abused by the Cavs ... They get nothing? Sounds good to me.

Kawhi isn't hurt, he's healed. None of his actions scream that he's really hurt.

"But, he's sitting out because if he plays and gets hurt he'll cost himself the supermax!" ----. Nope, he demanded a trade away from the team that could give him the supermax

"He's really hurt and that's why he doesn't trust the Spurs medical staff". ---- then why demand a trade to the Lakers, who have screwed up 20 year old Lonzo's knee, instead of demanding a trade to the Suns who are famous for having the best staff in the league?

He's fine. If his health was anything degenerative or performance threatening for the long term, his team of leaches would have taken the Nike, deal, taken the supermax or sought any trade to keep bird rights to lock in that big payday bird max.

The Spurs caved because they're nice guys, way too nice.

Look at what treating Simmons will got them. Morey would have forced him into the Qualifying Offer, so would most GMs. But the Spurs being so nice let him it so he could go get paid. Even now, he has a bum wrist still not healed, and had he entered this market instead he'd be begging for a bi-annual.

But the Spurs were nice, let him go increase his career earnings from what was shaping up to be 5 million to 20 million and live a good lifestyle for him and his 4+ kids.

And how does Simmons treat them now? By ting on the Spurs with his Kawhi tweets.

That bum was on his way to China and a life of debt and broken dreams without the Spurs' kindness, and he just spit in their face.

That's why they gave in, they're too soft.

[Mugen]

At least Methlahoma is in the states. Kiwi now needs a passport to attend his autism classes after practice. That's some bull son

Not sure if you're serious or not and this has nothing to do with anything Kawhi related....but Toronto is a significantly better city than Oklahoma City...

Have you even been outside the US since entering it?

[LkrFan]

You lied about what was offered.

lol

I didn't lie

Truth be told, we'll never know what was offered. All I know is today's trade seems like a lateral move for the Spurs and strengthened Toronto's grip on the East's top seed. And the fact that Kiwi hates winters gives my boys the chance to battle test our kids then possibly sign Kiwi next summer anyway.

[LkrFan]

Not sure if you're serious or not and this has nothing to do with anything Kawhi related....but Toronto is a significantly better city than Oklahoma City...

Have you even been outside the US since entering it?

[timvp]

Does derozan make the all star team in the west?

Pretty damn unlikely due to how stacked the West is. If the Spurs have a top two record and DeRozan is playing better than Aldridge, maybe.

Kawhi should be erased from the Spurs history completely IMO. I don’t care what good he did, he’s a ghost in my eyes. He should be hated, booed and run out of town for the rest of his life. It’s scorched earth mother f*cker and I’m leading the pack.

Can't say I disagree with this.

You couldn't write a uglier fall from grace for what appeared to be a Spurs legend in the making.

I mean, the Lakers? The , Nephew.

At least FTL is alive and kicking. I had forgotten they existed after Kobe's pathetic multi-year farewell tour and the subsequent half decade of failed lottery picks.

[Mugen]

Pretty damn unlikely due to how stacked the West is. If the Spurs have a top two record and DeRozan is playing better than Aldridge, maybe.



Can't say I disagree with this.

You couldn't write a uglier fall from grace for what appeared to be a Spurs legend in the making.

I mean, the Lakers? The , Nephew.

At least FTL is alive and kicking. I had forgotten they existed after Kobe's pathetic multi-year farewell tour and the subsequent half decade of failed lottery picks.

I was told that Russell, Lonzo, Ingram, and Randle were better picks than KAT, Simmons, Porzingis and Tatum since they got LeBron.

Are you saying that is NOT the case?

[JPB]

I think a poor man's LMA/Gay/DDR big 3 can work and there's enough food for all three of them to eat. Specially with a non scoring PG like Dijon who (kind of surprisingly) will be the heart of the team now with "Who Shall be Not Named", TP, Danny and possibly Manu gone.

Kid has flaws in his game but got heart, balls and accountabiltiy. And he gets along well with LMA.

Gay is the one who is intriguing me. The second year out of an big injury is always better and he'll have a lot of responsability with WSBNN in Hockeyland now.

Poetl is a welcome addition in a depleted area. When was the last time Spurs had a center that looked like one (boards and blocks) ? We'll see if he can make his place.

As irrational as it can be, I can't analyze the value of this trade without integrating the fact PATFO sent WSBNN and the group in their nightmare destination.

Karma is a bish, and something's telling me they haven't finished realizing how much it can be...

[baseline bum]

Shaq "healed on company time" and derailed our 2003 season. Same diff.

Shaq played 67 games and put up 28 and 11. Leonard went AWOL to New York and hid behind his uncle when the Spurs came to see how the rehab was going.

[MoSpur02]

Props for keeping us informed on the back room stuff!

[LkrFan]

It’s an awful trade in a bubble, but SA had no really good options.

I really hope SA makes other moves. Use your picks (TOR and your own) to get better now. You won’t have cap space anyways unless you trade Pau/Mills but if you don’t care about FA you can maybe use them and picks to get win-now players that fit better.

Kawhi should be erased from the Spurs history completely IMO. I don’t care what good he did, he’s a ghost in my eyes. He should be hated, booed and run out of town for the rest of his life. It’s scorched earth mother f*cker and I’m leading the pack.

In fact, I am planning on quitting my job, leaving my wife and buying tickets to every Raps game this season so I can relentlessly heckle Kawhi until he breaks.

If Kiwi gets erased, so does your 2014 rang. Boiled down: Kobe 5, Duncan 4.

[gambit1990]

Does derozan make the all star team in the west?

yes.

[baseline bum]

Timvp analysis is why I came back to ST.

GOOD STUFF

You be the hotdog

[baseline bum]

Props for keeping us informed on the back room stuff!

Bend over. I'll show you some back room stuff.

[spurs10]

I think the idea of getting an All Star and and a big with potential was as good as they were seeing and it's clear now it was "time" to part with nephew and crew.

[Pavlov]

I didn't lie

Truth be told, we'll never know what was offered.

lol walking back

[polandprzem]

How do you want to hide Derozan bad defense? With Belli, Mills running around? Murray is not that great either to cover for him.

[Killakobe81]

What ? What takes have I missed on?

Josh Jackson will be good for one ... did you see him shoot in SL?!

[timvp]

I was told that Russell, Lonzo, Ingram, and Randle were better picks than KAT, Simmons, Porzingis and Tatum since they got LeBron.

Are you saying that is NOT the case?

Tbh, LeBron saw how the Lakers gleefully bent over to accommodate the extended Kobe farewell tour so he decided to retire to that gig. Can't blame him. He has a lot of miles. He must be tired.

[HarlemHeat37]

What's funny is that the Spurs now have 2 players that finished 4th and 5th in MVP voting last season, yet few are excited about it(and rightfully so)

[ducks]

What's funny is that the Spurs now have 2 players that finished 4th and 5th in MVP voting last season, yet few are excited about it(and rightfully so)

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