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    We ascending, y'all descending.

    this Lakers team will be better than Last year's cavs. Record may not show that because its the west.
    But funny how it was Lebron carried a piss poor roster to the Finals ... until he signed with Lakers.
    Now we are worse than the cavs ...GTFO.

    since regular season matters we swept yall last year i think once without Lonzo and once without Ingram ...
    Now we got Bron.
    I'd say you're not ascending. You were, but you traded that for a static position of hype, smoke and mirrors. Most LA fans will fall for it, but at least a few know it's a fugazi. As good as Lebron is, and he's ing good, he's not better in LA than in Cleveland and he got swept like a by a team that the Rockets took to 7 games.

    2 - He's got a 1st year team with the next 2 best players being Lance Stephenson and Rajon Rondo. BI and LB might be salvageable and we know Kuzma is good, but he's not "play alongside Lebron" good. I don't know if Luke will last long enough to realize he has to duplicate the dynamic they had in Cleveland.

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    Yeah mother er it's calle the eastern conference. Did the Lakers magically switch coasts?
    Cursing ... Look above your bold font I acknowledged it's the west.
    Sig or Avvy bet Lakers make playoffs?
    Double that if Lakers /spurs meet in playoffs?

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    We got rid of Kyle Anderson and Danny Green. How is that descending?
    challenged on offense two of your better defenders that played and lost a 2x DPOTY
    YOu may win similar amount of games or even more and still not be as good as you were with Kawhi.

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    Cursing ... Look above your bold font I acknowledged it's the west.
    Sig or Avvy bet Lakers make playoffs?
    Double that if Lakers /spurs meet in playoffs?
    Sure dude, what the do I care? I have Landon ing Donovan in my Avatar and I have no sig.

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    challenged on offense two of your better defenders that played and lost a 2x DPOTY
    YOu may win similar amount of games or even more and still not be as good as you were with Kawhi.
    We've already gone a season without Kawhi. That is baked in.

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    Cursing ... Look above your bold font I acknowledged it's the west.
    Sig or Avvy bet Lakers make playoffs?
    Double that if Lakers /spurs meet in playoffs?
    Ok, well . Now we know how high you've set the bar. Why are we even discussing it. Everyone here knows the Lakers will make the playoffs.

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    challenged on offense two of your better defenders that played and lost a 2x DPOTY
    YOu may win similar amount of games or even more and still not be as good as you were with Kawhi.
    You mean pre-quad Kawhi.

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    Losing Parker was probably worth about 5 more wins for the Spurs

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    We've already gone a season without Kawhi. That is baked in.
    Done and Done.

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    I heard Khris Middleton is available. Something like that would be incredible.
    I would really like Khris Middleton! That would definitely put the Spurs in contention (yeah I know the Warriors will be almost impossible to beat barring injury). If Spurs can do that without giving up much youth then I’m all for it.

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    This what I was saying: (courtesy ESPN)

    1. DeRozan will keep the Spurs relevant in the playoff race. They won 47 games last year without Leonard, juggling a hodgepodge roster. You know they will find a way to at least approach 50 this season, even if DeRozan and LaMarcus Aldridge jack 40 midrange jumpers per game between them. Those guys grind out regular-season wins. Pair them with good coaching and smart team defense, and the Spurs will be in almost every game.

    2. But this is a blah long-term play -- one of the first times having a coach installed as the top decision-maker might have hurt San Antonio. Without Leonard, a rebuild is coming. This move only delays it. DeRozan is an All-Star, but not a franchise star who alone forestalls a downslope.

    3. It's tempting to suggest the Spurs could eventually flip DeRozan for the sorts of assets that would trigger a proper rebuild, but he doesn't carry that sort of trade value. (DeRozan's role in this trade does not indicate much about his league-wide trade cachet. This is a unique set of cir stances involving a seller with zero leverage.)

    Like I said numerous picks, Deeps?! For Derozan? IF Spus are able to improve him enough to warrant that, you might as well keep him for yourselves he will never get that on open market as is.

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    Maybe Gasol/Mills +Spurs 2019 1st +Tor 2019 1st +Spurs 2020 1st for Butler??
    You can’t trade consecutive first round picks.

    And to those saying the Toronto pick is “worthless”, it’ll likely fall in the same range where the Spurs have gotten the Andersons, Murrays, CoJos, etc. of the world recently. It’s going to be fine.

    Just hope it doesn’t turn into two second rounders. That would totally suck. I’m surprised the Spurs didn’t also get a pick swap sometime in the future. But Masai wanted to maintain flexibility for a full rebuild.

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    It’s funny that the Lakers have these young studs and Bron but the goal is just the playoffs. SA is this terrible old team and medicore when they are expected to beat LA’s records.

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    This what I was saying: (courtesy ESPN)

    1. DeRozan will keep the Spurs relevant in the playoff race. They won 47 games last year without Leonard, juggling a hodgepodge roster. You know they will find a way to at least approach 50 this season, even if DeRozan and LaMarcus Aldridge jack 40 midrange jumpers per game between them. Those guys grind out regular-season wins. Pair them with good coaching and smart team defense, and the Spurs will be in almost every game.

    2. But this is a blah long-term play -- one of the first times having a coach installed as the top decision-maker might have hurt San Antonio. Without Leonard, a rebuild is coming. This move only delays it. DeRozan is an All-Star, but not a franchise star who alone forestalls a downslope.

    3. It's tempting to suggest the Spurs could eventually flip DeRozan for the sorts of assets that would trigger a proper rebuild, but he doesn't carry that sort of trade value. (DeRozan's role in this trade does not indicate much about his league-wide trade cachet. This is a unique set of cir stances involving a seller with zero leverage.)

    Like I said numerous picks, Deeps?! For Derozan? IF Spus are able to improve him enough to warrant that, you might as well keep him for yourselves he will never get that on open market as is.
    Did I say multiple number 1 picks? No. I said multiple picks. Zach Lowe has been wayyyyy off for the past few years as well.

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    It’s funny that the Lakers have these young studs and Bron but the goal is just the playoffs. SA is this terrible old team and medicore when they are expected to beat LA’s records.
    you guys have two all-stars in their "prime" whether or not they are overrated and overpaid.
    You have a coach that has been coaching almost as long as ours has been alive.

    Of course Spurs should win more games than a team with a bunch of 2nd and third year players playing heavy mins ...should i be calling for championship or should I be realistic as I always have?
    Ingram is not a "stud" he is potential one ...more than Josh Jackson for sure ...

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    Did I say multiple number 1 picks? No. I said multiple picks. Zach Lowe has been wayyyyy off for the past few years as well.
    Wasn't Lowe but nice guess ...my bad you were right.

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    So next year it appears after all the moves thus far, that sa will have 12M in cap space (I get to 9M, but I guess if Forbes isn’t guaranteed then it’s 12) assuming they just waive and stretch Pau. If they can trade Pau with no money back that goes to 18M.

    If they can trade Mills as well? That goes to 30M.

    Not a terrible spot to be in either. But I hope they make some moves this year if they present themselves.

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    you guys have two all-stars in their "prime" whether or not they are overrated and overpaid.
    You have a coach that has been coaching almost as long as ours has been alive.

    Of course Spurs should win more games than a team with a bunch of 2nd and third year players playing heavy mins ...should i be calling for championship or should I be realistic as I always have?
    Ingram is not a "stud" he is potential one ...more than Josh Jackson for sure ...
    Is Lebron some young guy? Why is LA ok with being medicore? Why not win now with Lebron?

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    Pop doesn't give a , OP. Once again today he belittled basketball as a little kid's game and meaningless in the grand scheme of things.

    He just wants to be good enough to not suck until he's gone in 2020. He ed everything Duncan built. Two unhappy superstars in 2 years and he just traded for another one. Not to mention he let the greatest PG in franchise history walk away for less than what that scrub Bertans is making. He's lost it.
    He’s a liberal TGY. What do you expect? Tolerance?

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    You can’t trade consecutive first round picks.

    And to those saying the Toronto pick is “worthless”, it’ll likely fall in the same range where the Spurs have gotten the Andersons, Murrays, CoJos, etc. of the world recently. It’s going to be fine.

    Just hope it doesn’t turn into two second rounders. That would totally suck. I’m surprised the Spurs didn’t also get a pick swap sometime in the future. But Masai wanted to maintain flexibility for a full rebuild.
    I don't see how the Spurs don't get a 1st. Even if that re ed s bag decides to quite, it would take significant injuries beyond that for them to not finish with a top 10 record.

    Even with a mid-late 1st and a late 1st, those can be packaged to move into the late lottery.

    I'd also keep an eye on Winslow throughout the season. He made a leap from 3 last season. The Heat have a bloated payroll and low upside. If they sense he's going be too expensive for their taste, would they be willing to get out before having to make that decision?

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    Is Lebron some young guy? Why is LA ok with being medicore? Why not win now with Lebron?
    Goal is a le.
    Rome wasn't built in a day.
    A godfather deal wasnt smart for KL because Lebron/KL and spare parts are not wining a le.
    Our youth has to develop so that we can be a team like state once was that had guys outperforming their contracts.
    That's how you can win in superteam era and why Boston has a bright future (Buck Foston)
    if tatum and Brown develop they can have two of their best players on rookie deals ...and let some of the overpriced vets walk.

    A team of just stars on maxes and roster fodder wont beat State.

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    Man, the hedging. made tbh.

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    Goal is a le.
    Rome wasn't built in a day.
    A godfather deal wasnt smart for KL because Lebron/KL and spare parts are not wining a le.
    Our youth has to develop so that we can be a team like state once was that had guys outperforming their contracts.
    That's how you can win in superteam era and why Boston has a bright future (Buck Foston)
    if tatum and Brown develop they can have two of their best players on rookie deals ...and let some of the overpriced vets walk.

    A team of just stars on maxes and roster fodder wont beat State.
    HOU almost did.

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    Nope. They also had good talented role players on less than max deals like Ariza and Tucker.
    Plus Capela is on a cheap deal too.
    They let their best wing defenders walk and now Capela wants a $100 million and they still haven't won yet.
    Last year was probably their best shot and they failed.

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    Clips will have about $40 million on the books in 2019, a promising young PG and $22 million of Gallanari off the books in 2020. Lakers counting their chickens again.

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