Spurs Need to Go All-In

[vy65]

One would think there's more to the story which will come out soon. It doesn't make sense that after 7 years he wanted out of SA that bad. Absolutely agree, time to flip if so.

This. At the end of the day, the whole situation still makes no sense. Something happened behind closed doors that we still don’t know.

[Robz4000]

Its the wild west for sure but used to be much better ... My goal is to reture from posting here once we are legit contenders. Not there yet but we are taking steops in that direction. IF KD hadnt joined state we would be even closer ...

Let's be real, you're here forever.

[FireMicoHalili]

I meant more recently ...
Not asking for a cookie for riding with the team through 17 wins wsa just advising that Im not one of the "all of a sudden", since Lebron joined posters, since you seemed confused.
My fandom of Lebron has went up and down I was ready to bear witnees in 2007 and I crucified him in 2011. Not because I hated him or even because I preffered Kobe ..I really felt he should have stayed in Cleveland because he was soo great players would join him even in that hole. So watching him lose especially since I just moved to dallas was sun. (NBA les seem to follow me) Obvioulsy it worked out but he himslef felt a need to go back and win a le and he did so against all odds. SO then I creeped back on the train a bit and now that he is a Laker Im all aboard.

That being said he is not as great as Jordan. he may have surpassed Magic Tim etc. But jordan is another bar. But hey if he rings with the Lakers I will be happy to listen to GOAT arguments once again.

All right fair is fair enjoy the season man

[Mugen]

Murray/Pau/Patty/1st for Kemba/Batum.

Staking my claim to it that it's the only trade out there that makes sense for the Spurs. I'd give it a 5% chance of happening but the Spurs take the Warriors to 6 in the WCF if it happens tbh.

[spurraider21]

This. At the end of the day, the whole situation still makes no sense. Something happened behind closed doors that we still don’t know.

Tony back to his old ways?

[marinoman]

I have to give Killa credit Spurraider. He stuck around all the time even with LA sucking. He hated PG before PG spurned LA. He’s many things, but he has been here and sticking to his guns.

Im not going through this thread, what player do you suggest? Getting kemba isn’t going all in

[Pavlov]

I'm here to gloat!

1 - LBJ is minimum +20 wins. Lakers will be at >55 wins.

2 - Spurs are circling the drain. DeRozan is subtraction by addition. Raptors could have kept DD, paired him with KL and sent you promising young uns. On paper that would've made the best team in the East. Instead, they dropped DeRozan like a bad habit. Spurs won 47 w/o KL last year but will struggle to win 45 with DD but minus chemistry guys like TP, Green, etc.

3 - Lakers are not done making moves - they have a roster full of tradable 1-year contracts (Rondo, Stephenson, McGee, Pope, Zubac), 4 million in capspace and a full packet of draft picks. Highly possible they add Kawhi/Butler/someone else before the summer is over.

Spurs have had an incredible run since getting The Admiral and should be proud of their record. Now it's time to reload. It will be a tough couple of seasons, but you'll recover.

Odd screen name for lakerfan tbh.

[DPG21920]

I'm not a championship or bust guy, tbh. I just think there were a lot of better options out there to remain compe ive and still plan for the future at the same time.

I don’t know man. We will see how DeRozan works. I dont like him but even I think you are underselling him. I agree, in theory, that there are other players that could have helped SA be a playoff team still but DeRozan ups that ceiling even if ultimatley it’s not a high ceiling.

I think the point is there really were not the deals we though or hoped would be there. The deals seemed to be either lots of picks (which I get some may have preferred that) or DeRozan.

I don’t think there was an in between with one or two good players (less than DeRozan good, but still good) and picks. The reports flying out are that the main deals discussed never really progressed and it was just picks offered.

Kyrie was and that is debatable, but asset wise? I think getting DeRozan for 2-3 years as a good teammate and Poeltl is better than one year of Kawhi. But it’s debatable.

[SAGirl]

I don't see how the Spurs don't get a 1st. Even if that re ed s bag decides to quite, it would take significant injuries beyond that for them to not finish with a top 10 record.

Even with a mid-late 1st and a late 1st, those can be packaged to move into the late lottery.

I'd also keep an eye on Winslow throughout the season. He made a leap from 3 last season. The Heat have a bloated payroll and low upside. If they sense he's going be too expensive for their taste, would they be willing to get out before having to make that decision?

Good call on Winslow. A true wing defender is something they need to not be such a paper tiger. It's fine that they just got better offensively. But they got much worse on the other end and that matters too especially in the west with so many offensive wings. I was wondering if Walker could help them bc besides being athletic he has strength and wingspan. I don't count on him bc if the rook factor, but maybe Spurs will go after a wing like Winslow.

[spursreport]

I don’t want Murray/White/Lonnie traded, but if SA could get Kemba by giving up Murray? Fine.

Kemba? Stop. Please. A ing point guard as your best player isn’t the answer.

[spurraider21]

Murray/Pau/Patty/1st for Kemba/Batum.

Staking my claim to it that it's the only trade out there that makes sense for the Spurs. I'd give it a 5% chance of happening but the Spurs take the Warriors to 6 in the WCF if it happens tbh.

it does make sense for the spurs.

but why on earth would charlotte take it? they'd ask for a lot more if they're giving us kemba and taking on our 2 worst contracts. would probably need lonnie in there or another first

[mo7888]

Murray/Pau/Patty/1st for Kemba/Batum.

Staking my claim to it that it's the only trade out there that makes sense for the Spurs. I'd give it a 5% chance of happening but the Spurs take the Warriors to 6 in the WCF if it happens tbh.

After he resigned for 5 years he'd be 34 on the back end of that deal. Still, is do it if I knew I could get him at around 22M per year.

[DPG21920]

Appreciate you bro and was just saying I think you were spinning a bit positive with teh DD will get numerous picks talk.
Like I said I think yall will win 45-50 games give or take a few.
Just don't see how it will translate to playoff success.
But Pop is my dude.
Good luck I just don't like this trade at all for yall.
But Kawhi screwed yall and tbh that is also giving me a reason to be hesitant about him joining us.
Its not his talent it's his health and mental makeup.

I dont love the trade either, but SA was screwed and it appears to be the best possible even if I think they should have gotten more from TOR.

But I think SA will be better than most. I mean the prevailing thought and discussion around the league/twitter is SA is slated between 39-42 wins right now. It’s not just one person either many people are talking like that.

I know SA does not have a high ceiling and WCF would be huge, but 2nd round team is good for us since winning les are hard. With another move or two this team could be a WCF contender for 2-3 years.

[mo7888]

it does make sense for the spurs.

but why on earth would charlotte take it? they'd ask for a lot more if they're giving us kemba and taking on our 2 worst contracts. would probably need lonnie in there or another first

We'd be taking on their worst contract for 3 years too.

[johnnymoore]

Odd screen name for lakerfan tbh.

I am an old guy (55). Johnny Moore was one of my favorite players in the early 80s and a hugely underrated PG. Also loved Larry Kenon, FWIW.

[Russ]

This. At the end of the day, the whole situation still makes no sense. Something happened behind closed doors that we still don’t know.

I think the real story may be that nothing happened behind closed doors.

No SuperMax.

[DAF86]

I don’t know man. We will see how DeRozan works. I dont like him but even I think you are underselling him. I agree, in theory, that there are other players that could have helped SA be a playoff team still but DeRozan ups that ceiling even if ultimatley it’s not a high ceiling.

I think the point is there really were not the deals we though or hoped would be there. The deals seemed to be either lots of picks (which I get some may have preferred that) or DeRozan.

I don’t think there was an in between with one or two good players (less than DeRozan good, but still good) and picks. The reports flying out are that the main deals discussed never really progressed and it was just picks offered.

Kyrie was and that is debatable, but asset wise? I think getting DeRozan for 2-3 years as a good teammate and Poeltl is better than one year of Kawhi. But it’s debatable.

Don't you think that Covington, Saric and Miami's 2021 was a better option than DeRozan and a late first rounder?

[Mugen]

it does make sense for the spurs.

but why on earth would charlotte take it? they'd ask for a lot more if they're giving us kemba and taking on our 2 worst contracts. would probably need lonnie in there or another first

Kemba has 1yr left . Murray and a 1st isn't a terrible return especially if Borrego is high on him.

Pau/Patty allow the Hornets to move off of Batum's horrible contract tbh.

[cd98]

Looks like the Spurs had 2 options. Trade for a bunch of draft picks over the next few years or trade for the package they got with Toronto. Spurs made the right moves. They convinced a lot of free agent vets to come this year. If they traded Kawhi for draft picks (which would probably be late 1st round), the would essentially tank this year. Keep this thing going so the vets have a chance to fight for the playoffs and see what can happen. Just need to get a SF now.

[spurraider21]

We'd be taking on their worst contract for 3 years too.

would also be funny if charlotte ends up with the point guard rotation of murray/mills/parker

[DPG21920]

Im not going through this thread, what player do you suggest? Getting kemba isn’t going all in

It is if you understand my context. Going all in doesn’t mean getting AD or Harden. It just means that you make moves geared towards winning now vs the future.

Just means don’t be afraid to trade your first rounders for roster upgrades now if the opportunity presents itself.

My target would be a Jimmy Butler (long odds, but at least we know there is tension there) or Khris Middleton. Even those moves would make SA a true 2nd best team in the West. Kemba would too if it meant giving up Mills or Pau and some picks.

But Kemba isn’t on the table IMO. They are seemingly on the same page with coach James and Kemba being happy.

[spurraider21]

Kemba has 1yr left . Murray and a 1st isn't a terrible return especially if Borrego is high on him.

Pau/Patty allow the Hornets to move off of Batum's horrible contract tbh.

would also be funny if charlotte ends up with the point guard rotation of murray/mills/parker

[spursreport]

No one challenges the ing warriors man. That's not the bar.

Good grief more with this re ed saying? They didn’t get better, they were vulnerable last season, 3-peating is ing difficult to do. I swear everyone just giving them the le based on being pussies.

[DPG21920]

it does make sense for the spurs.

but why on earth would charlotte take it? they'd ask for a lot more if they're giving us kemba and taking on our 2 worst contracts. would probably need lonnie in there or another first

Dude Im not saying CHA does it but Pau is basically off the books next season. Batum deal is wayyyyy worse. I bet you if SA offered Mills/Pau for Batum CHA would give US a pick lol

[FireMicoHalili]

Don't you think that Covington, Saric and Miami's 2021 was a better option than DeRozan and a late first rounder?

I wanted this deal. RoCo fills in for Green and Saric - while he isn’t Kawhi - has experience playing overseas and isn’t bad. Had the best frontcourt rating when paired with Embiid. Good passer, adequate shooter, has the height to play the small-ball four and the speed to play the three. Guess Pop really values playoff experience.