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    I think they’re done trade wise unless they include a first plus a young guy. Mills isn’t tradeable. Gasoline could be shipped out, but I doubt that as well

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    I think they’re done trade wise unless they include a first plus a young guy. Mills isn’t tradeable. Gasoline could be shipped out, but I doubt that as well
    See edit above. It makes more sense for the TPUPS this way.

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    Multiple league sources said the three-team trade is not expected to be completed in the coming days. One of the sources said that’s because the #Sixers are working on another move.

    maybe something with the spurs??

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    OKC just got a lot better by removing Carmelo and adding a nice scoring punch to be their 6th man. Gonna be strong defensively. Spurs definitely need a real 3&D SF..

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    Multiple league sources said the three-team trade is not expected to be completed in the coming days. One of the sources said that’s because the #Sixers are working on another move.

    maybe something with the spurs??
    I really hope so.. Covington. I’d take Chandler as a last resort but he doesn’t play any defense.

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    Would Sixers do.. Covington and Bayless for Gasol +1st?

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    Would Sixers do.. Covington and Bayless for Gasol +1st?
    I hope so.. I’d want it to be Mills. But then if it’s Gasol I’d hope Spurs would pick up someone like Okafor for cheap in FA. Or a stretch 5.

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    I hope so.. I’d want it to be Mills. But then if it’s Gasol I’d hope Spurs would pick up someone like Okafor for cheap in FA. Or a stretch 5.
    Gasol worked on trade machine, mills didn’t and I think mills can be good of the bench playing with a lot of ball movement

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    Gasol worked on trade machine, mills didn’t and I think mills can be good of the bench playing with a lot of ball movement
    I understand. And yeah true I guess I just dislike smaller players who are a liability on defense. It’s gonna suck when Pop has him switched on Lebron, KD and Paul George!

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    Would Sixers do.. Covington and Bayless for Gasol +1st?
    I think they'd want a little more from us than a geriatric Gasol and a (not very good) pick. Maybe throw in one (or two) of our more worthless young guards. Sixers need shooting BADLY.

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    I think they'd want a little more from us than a geriatric Gasol and a (not very good) pick. Maybe throw in one (or two) of our more worthless young guards. Sixers need shooting BADLY.
    , taking back Bayless’s contract should be good enough Probably not but i’d hope.

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    I think they'd want a little more from us than a geriatric Gasol and a (not very good) pick. Maybe throw in one (or two) of our more worthless young guards. Sixers need shooting BADLY.
    Forbes may actually be good for them. He can make some 3’s in limited minutes

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    Forbes may actually be good for them. He can make some 3’s in limited minutes
    Yep, I was thinking Forbes as well. We need to thin out some of these small guards that we have. That's why I'd be VERY happy to package two (or three) of them in a deal to get a legit wing

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    I wonder how far off the team would be in trading for a guy like Conley. It's a huge game with that salary, but the guy went for 23/4/7 per 36 on a TS% of 60.4 in his most recent healthy season. No question in my mind that a Conley who could replicate those numbers would vault SA into contending status if DeRozan and LMA can have years like last season. But of course, $100 Million is a prohibitive amount to spend on a guy who hasn't been healthy. The only reason why SA could even entertain this is because they no longer have to pay the DPE to Leonard. They can get and keep Conley for his contract while avoiding the tax. If he's cheap enough (like Mills, Gasol and the Toronto first), I'd go for it. Go big or go home, and they'd get to keep all their young prospects anyway.

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    I wonder how far off the team would be in trading for a guy like Conley. It's a huge game with that salary, but the guy went for 23/4/7 per 36 on a TS% of 60.4 in his most recent healthy season. No question in my mind that a Conley who could replicate those numbers would vault SA into contending status if DeRozan and LMA can have years like last season. But of course, $100 Million is a prohibitive amount to spend on a guy who hasn't been healthy. The only reason why SA could even entertain this is because they no longer have to pay the DPE to Leonard. They can get and keep Conley for his contract while avoiding the tax. If he's cheap enough (like Mills, Gasol and the Toronto first), I'd go for it. Go big or go home, and they'd get to keep all their young prospects anyway.
    I would be fine doing something like that for sure - anyone that has 2-3 years left is a target. I don’t think MEM would do it now though. They seem to be trying to be a playoff team and just received a huge shot in the arm with JJJ.

    If they falter badly to start, he might be able to be had then (assuming he does not look busted).

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    After looking at the list of high-salaried players, higher than $20M, it looks like only Otto Porter and Bradley Beal could be had as salary dumps (outside of Conley himself), and that's only if the Wizards can be convinced to take a step back this coming season, a hard sell given LeBron's departure. Porter fits the lineup much better (44.1% 3FG on 4 attempts per game last season and is actually a SF), but I'm not sure how WAS values those players compared to each other.

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    Wizards probably just stretch waive Mahinmi next summer, they might not need to salary dump

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    Pau for Bazemore would make some sense. Would give us one true SF and clear minutes for Poeltl. Bazemore's contract is fully guaranteed in 2019, so the Spurs would be forgoing any hope of clearing cap room next season. That said, they're unlikely to have meaningful space even if they waive Pau & stretch his $6.7M guarantee this summer.

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    I know he’s another guard but id much rather have beal than porter, the wizards shoulnt have matched (Brooklyn) I think to keep him, big mistake

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    I wonder how far off the team would be in trading for a guy like Conley. It's a huge game with that salary, but the guy went for 23/4/7 per 36 on a TS% of 60.4 in his most recent healthy season. No question in my mind that a Conley who could replicate those numbers would vault SA into contending status if DeRozan and LMA can have years like last season. But of course, $100 Million is a prohibitive amount to spend on a guy who hasn't been healthy. The only reason why SA could even entertain this is because they no longer have to pay the DPE to Leonard. They can get and keep Conley for his contract while avoiding the tax. If he's cheap enough (like Mills, Gasol and the Toronto first), I'd go for it. Go big or go home, and they'd get to keep all their young prospects anyway.
    With the path we're on now a move like this would be fine, IMO. I think this might be possible if Memphis is still as toxic as they were last year early on. The motivation to blow that team up will have to grow pretty high pretty early on in the year if they struggle. I don't think they'll do it before then, though.

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    Pau for Bazemore would make some sense. Would give us one true SF and clear minutes for Poeltl. Bazemore's contract is fully guaranteed in 2019, so the Spurs would be forgoing any hope of clearing cap room next season. That said, they're unlikely to have meaningful space even if they waive Pau & stretch his $6.7M guarantee this summer.
    Bazemore is not a true SF. Despite his 6'11.5'' wingspan, he's only 6'5'' 201. James, Antetokounmpo, Leonard, Butler, etc. would bulldoze him, while Durant, George, etc. would shoot up over the top.

    Even Carroll (6'7'' 215, 6'10'' wingspan) isn't big/strong/long enough to guard most of them. I know James is a near impossible standard, but he's destroyed him with ease multiple times in the playoffs.

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    I think this is the time of year that teams talk themselves into believing they're going to be compe ive. I think there are a lot of teams out there that may or may not be good, and the ones that aren't good might look to blow it up. Teams like Milwaukee, Memphis, Washington, Minnesota all come to mind as places where trades might be had if they don't succeed in the first third of the season.

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    Bazemore is not a true SF. Despite his 6'11.5'' wingspan, he's only 6'5'' 201. James, Antetokounmpo, Leonard, Butler, etc. would bulldoze him, while Durant, George, etc. would shoot up over the top.

    Even Carroll (6'7'' 215, 6'10'' wingspan) isn't big/strong/long enough to guard most of them. I know James is a near impossible standard, but he's destroyed him with ease multiple times in the playoffs.
    This is why they may as well run with DeRozan. There are a few players who can physically match up with those guys, and most of them are either superstars or have so many issues of their own that they really don't fit on a winning team. Covington and Ariza are notable exceptions, and they've had their own defensive issues and aren't for sale in any event. In some ways, if they get another wing, it makes sense to go for an offensive two-guard like Fournier. Like sure, Evan isn't shutting down anyone, but he's not an embarrassment on that end, and he adds another "live" player to the starting lineup to hurt opposing defenses.

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    This is why they may as well run with DeRozan. There are a few players who can physically match up with those guys, and most of them are either superstars or have so many issues of their own that they really don't fit on a winning team. Covington and Ariza are notable exceptions, and they've had their own defensive issues and aren't for sale in any event. In some ways, if they get another wing, it makes sense to go for an offensive two-guard like Fournier. Like sure, Evan isn't shutting down anyone, but he's not an embarrassment on that end, and he adds another "live" player to the starting lineup to hurt opposing defenses.
    It doesn't make sense to burden your go to offensive creator like that, when he's a terrible defender to begin with.

    Even an all-time great defender like Leonard benefitted from having another very good defender in Green, who could swap many assignments.

    Ariza may come available at the trade deadline or after in the buyout window. If the Spurs are a fringe playoff team at that point, a pick that could be mid 40s, along with Gasol, could have appeal to the Suns. Same with the Nets and Carroll (he's still better than nothing).

    It's all dependant on Ginobili retiring though because otherwise there's no room in the rotation.

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    Wizards probably just stretch waive Mahinmi next summer, they might not need to salary dump
    But they are over the tax now and we could alleviate their problem this summer.

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