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    Dems can't win outside of urban areas because rurals are confused to think that Repugs give a (financial) about them. Repugs and their social issues play the rurals like ignorant rubes.

    ACA succeeded in its primary objective of expanding access to Ms of people, 30M+ of them Repugs now want to deny them health care.

    If you were middle class before ACA, you were ed, not ACA's problem or priority.

    Perhaps it could be fixed for those people, but Repugs will hurt them more, very soon, if not already.

    Take it up with BigInsurance and the corrupt, greedy, closed-guild medical profession.
    Bou talking theory again. Has no interest in the situation as long as it involves rural folk.

    Big insurance is like you describe when the government says you have to have insurance. You ever think the dog will catch his tail? You seen rather casual to the fact that my kids and I aren't able to justify prescriptions, doctor visits and surgeries yet are adamant about the ones that are heavily subsidised that now have access to all the things my family does not.

    Please explain why your not championing that fight instead telling me to take it up with someone else, not your problem.

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    The country went right and right and right.

    I don't think I have really gone anywhere.
    You said it.

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    Here you go. The corrupt POS she replaced was the start. All the Democrats I know are enormously happy about that.

    Let's get rid of the status quo indeed.
    Pretty sure I saw her on Pornhub in a throat video.

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    short history of how a Lepage is elected with 38% of the vote

    "In bent Republican Paul LePage is term-limited, having been elected twice consecutively in 2010 and 2014.

    LePage did not win a majority of the vote either time

    (receiving 37.6% in a crowded four-way race in 2010 and 48.2% in a three-way race in 2014),

    with Democrats accusing independent candidate
    Eliot Cutler of splitting the anti-LePage vote in both instances,

    though Cutler finished closer to LePage than Democratic candidate
    Libby Mitc in the 2010 election.[8]

    Maine's history of governors elected without majorities, including LePage, was one impetus for the

    citizen's referendum to implement ranked choice voting.[9][10]

    Though it was approved by voters in a
    2016 referendum, the Maine Legislature voted to delay and potentially repeal RCV for all elections after an advisory opinion by the

    Maine Supreme Judicial Court ruled it uncons utional for general elections for state offices.

    RCV supporters succeeded in a people's veto effort to prevent the delay, which suspends it until a June 2018 referendum vote.
    [11]

    RCV supporters were victorious in the June referendum, and ranked-choice voting will remain in place for state and federal primaries and federal general elections.
    [12]"

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    Bou talking theory again. Has no interest in the situation as long as it involves rural folk.

    Big insurance is like you describe when the government says you have to have insurance. You ever think the dog will catch his tail? You seen rather casual to the fact that my kids and I aren't able to justify prescriptions, doctor visits and surgeries yet are adamant about the ones that are heavily subsidised that now have access to all the things my family does not.

    Please explain why your not championing that fight instead telling me to take it up with someone else, not your problem.
    I have always been for tuning ACA from its first 100-amendment bas ized version, which might include improving your anecdotal situation.

    ACA didn't touch prices, that's still, always 100% up to for-profit BigInsurance / BigProvider.

    If ACA had tried to reduce health care prices, Repug s would have killed it, not bothered with one-year debate / 100 amendments, just ing killed it, to protect profits.

    Trash still hasn't delivered a cheaper, better health care for everybody, nor even brought down drug prices.

    He won't, status quo Repug s won't let him.
    Last edited by boutons_deux; 07-28-2018 at 06:55 AM.

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    If ACA had tried to reduce health care prices, Repug s would have killed it
    Could have been a great law had Lieberman and Nelson not killed off the price controls through the public option.

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    Could have been a great law had Lieberman and Nelson not killed off the price controls through the public option.
    yep, Repugs LIE that Obama controlled both House and Senate. He didn't have the Senate 60.

    BigInsurance corps in CT owned Lieberman.

    "the key legislator was the Democratic Chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, Max Baucus, whose committee took the lead in drafting the legislation.

    As Baucus himself
    repeatedly boasted, the architect of that legislation was Elizabeth Fowler, his chief health policy counsel;

    indeed, as Marcy Wheeler
    discovered, it was Fowler who actually drafted it.

    As Politico
    put it at the time:

    "If you drew an organizational chart of major players in the Senate health care negotiations,

    Fowler would be the chief operating officer."
    "

    Fowler was previously a health industry exec.

    rightwingassholes here "believe" there is no oligarchy but the oligarchy (Fowler, etc) wrote the ACA (and also essentially ALL Federal legislation and rule making).

    Baucus was also a to the health care industry.

    https://www.opensecrets.org/members-...3&cycle=CAREER

    where is Fowler now? https://www.linkedin.com/in/liz-fowler-b5612749

    but somehow, in their perverted tribal, cultish so-called thinking, rightwingnutjob assholes think Obama wrote ACA (helps their "thinking" that he was a non-American Muslim knitter), when in fact, as always,
    rightwingnutjob assholes are the cult that can't shoot straight, get their targets always wrong.


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    Repeal and Replace with the biggest bestest plan...

    Oh wait, who ever knew Heathcare could be so difficult.
    The mountain of lies and fabrications just grows.
    Amazing times.

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    I have always been for tuning ACA from its first 100-amendment bas ized version, which might include improving your anecdotal situation.

    ACA didn't touch prices, that's still, always 100% up to for-profit BigInsurance / BigProvider.

    If ACA had tried to reduce health care prices, Repug s would have killed it, not bothered with one-year debate / 100 amendments, just ing killed it, to protect profits.

    Trash still hasn't delivered a cheaper, better health care for everybody, nor even brought down drug prices.

    He won't, status quo Repug s won't let him.
    Thinking that ACA didn't touch prices is naive. Mandating those 10 essential benefits regardless of whether it's necessary/possible for the policy holder DID drive up prices - why would men need maternity benefits, why would adults need pediatric services including oral and vision? Mandating that older policy holders pay only 3 times young people (when it should be 5) drives up prices for younger policy holders. It's like me - an old, very safe driver without tickets paying more to subsidize a teenage male with lots of traffic tickets.

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    Thinking that ACA didn't touch prices is naive. Mandating those 10 essential benefits regardless of whether it's necessary/possible for the policy holder DID drive up prices - why would men need maternity benefits, why would adults need pediatric services including oral and vision? Mandating that older policy holders pay only 3 times young people (when it should be 5) drives up prices for younger policy holders. It's like me - an old, very safe driver without tickets paying more to subsidize a teenage male with lots of traffic tickets.
    "But muh intent! No ancedotes!”

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    like me - an old, very safe driver
    slow, old gook drivers aren’t safe drivers. Just because you don’t get tickets doesn't mean you’re less of a threat on the roads.

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    slow, old gook drivers aren’t safe drivers. Just because you don’t get tickets doesn't mean you’re less of a threat on the roads.
    she’s probably one of those gooks who doesn’t accelerate at all when she’s on the onramp, making so there’s a line of cars behind her that need to merge into lanes with cars going double the speed they’re going

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    she’s probably one of those gooks who doesn’t accelerate at all when she’s on the onramp, making so there’s a line of cars behind her that need to merge into lanes with cars going double the speed they’re going
    there’s a ridiculous amount of them in DFW too

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    there’s a ridiculous amount of them in DFW too
    It’s probably what causes 1 out of every 3 accidents on the 75 (and that’s a lot of accidents )

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    slow, old gook drivers aren’t safe drivers. Just because you don’t get tickets doesn't mean you’re less of a threat on the roads.
    she’s probably one of those gooks who doesn’t accelerate at all when she’s on the onramp, making so there’s a line of cars behind her that need to merge into lanes with cars going double the speed they’re going

    nice

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    Virtue signaling good now

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    White knighting for the Asian race like a good alt-righter

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    Name calling bad, abusing toddlers fine.

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    Name calling bad, abusing toddlers fine.

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    slow, old gook drivers aren’t safe drivers. Just because you don’t get tickets doesn't mean you’re less of a threat on the roads.
    Not a gook tbh, she is a black jamaican immigrant who hates immigrants.

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    Guaranteed that middle aged, dad joke tellin, white guy Darrin has used his fingers to do the Asian eye pose for a picture in the past year, and probably has said “me Chinese me play joke me put peepee in your Coke” to some unamused 11 year old child as well.

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    Not a gook tbh, she is a black jamaican immigrant who hates immigrants.

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    Not a gook tbh, she is a black jamaican immigrant who hates immigrants.

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    black jamaican asian female trumper lmao

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    black jamaican asian female trumper lmao


    Can you even be more of a minority? Senior citizen?

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