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    Poor Chris begging to be spoonfed
    He is new to the whole critical thinking and asking questions thing, give the poor fella a break. He'll figure it out eventually.

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    I knew you were talking out of your ass.
    (nah)
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    I knew you were talking out of your ass.
    There are clearly other limits, Chris.

    The "yelling fire in a crowded building" example is just one.

    Just because you don't know them, don't take it out on people who do and are currently marveling at your admitted ignorance.

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    I knew you were talking out of your ass.

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    "The U.S. Supreme Court has recognized very few exceptions to the First Amendment," says Robert Richards, founding director of the Pennsylvania Center for the First Amendment at Penn State, which was established in 1992 to promote awareness and understanding of the principles of free expression to the scholarly community, the media and the general public.

    "The categories of speech that fall outside of its protection are obscenity, child pornography, defamation, incitement to violence and true threats of violence," he explains. "Even in those categories, there are tests that have to be met in order for the speech to be illegal. Beyond that, we are free to speak."

    In the United States, several states have had laws against blasphemy even though such laws violate the U.S. Cons ution.

    Charlie Hebdo is considered by many to be an inflammatory and offensive publication, particularly for its graphic cartoons lampooning religious figures such as the Prophet Muhammad. Does that change how we should view the publication's free speech rights as seen through the lens of American laws and values?

    "Many people are mistaken in their belief that offensive speech or hate speech is not protected," says Richards. "The Supreme Court has repeatedly affirmed the notion that unpopular speech enjoys full First Amendment protection. As the late Justice William Brennan put it, in a case involving flag burning, 'If there is a bedrock principle underlying the First Amendment, it is that government may not prohibit the expression of an idea simply because society finds the idea itself offensive or disagreeable.'"

    Some would argue that much of the content in Charlie Hebdo is blasphemous. Yet the very notion of blasphemy -- defined as insulting God or any religious or holy person or thing -- varies greatly around the world. In some countries, blasphemy is not only illegal but is punishable by death. In the United States, several states have had laws against blasphemy even though such laws violate the U.S. Cons ution. Pennsylvania enacted a blasphemy law in 1977, which was struck down by the U.S. District Court in 2007. The last conviction for blasphemy in the U.S. took place in Arkansas in 1928.

    "In the United States, people are free to criticize religion as well as government," Richards says. "Some of that criticism can be quite caustic, yet we don't put people in jail, or worse, for engaging in that type of expression. Just a couple of years ago, the Supreme Court upheld the right of the Westboro Baptist Church to protest at military funerals with signs carrying extremely offensive messages. Without question, most Americans found those demonstrations to be repugnant. Nonetheless, we protect the right to protest."
    https://news.psu.edu/story/341896/20...freedom-speech


    This information is not hard to find, with a minimum of effort.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=what...edom+of+speech

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    Free Speech is limited on non-government-owned channels with terms and conditions that you must agree to prior to communicating on those channels.

    Alex Jones violated this limit by saying things that are against their terms and conditions despite agreeing to them.
    The limits on speech for those platforms are whatever the owners of those platforms want them to be. They are clearly listed in each platform's terms of service.

    Alex Jones violated the hate speech, bullying and violence terms of service he agreed to.

    Pretty simple stuff. I can see how you would struggle with it.

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    Had never really listened/read any Alex Jones Infowars stuff but just downloaded the App. A few interesting talking points and a whole lot of crazy sh*t...about on par with regular media.

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    Had never really listened/read any Alex Jones Infowars stuff but just downloaded the App. A few interesting talking points and a whole lot of crazy sh*t...about on par with regular media.
    Uh huh.

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    Cnn has daily guests that claim Trump is a traitor and russian tbqh

    Also NYT has some weird cartoons of trump and putin doing it

    Sorry this is nothing more than chinese/iranian/israeli censorship tbqh

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    Had never really listened/read any Alex Jones Infowars stuff but just downloaded the App. A few interesting talking points and a whole lot of crazy sh*t...about on par with regular media.
    If you think he is "on par with regular media", you must have an odd idea as to what cons utes "regular".

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    love him or hate him, those of you applauding this underhanded tactic by the "Revenge of the Nerds" out in silicon valley are no different than the rest of the fascists past and present.

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    If you think he is "on par with regular media", you must have an odd idea as to what cons utes "regular".
    please explain how regular MSM is... and by regular i mean FAKE ING NEWS!

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    love him or hate him, those of you applauding this underhanded tactic by the "Revenge of the Nerds" out in silicon valley are no different than the rest of the fascists past and present.
    Nothing underhanded about it. The Terms of Service are clear. Even Infowars has them.

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    Nothing underhanded about it. The Terms of Service are clear. Even Infowars has them.
    yall are just too funny... in that same breath you won't mention elsagate, isis vids, ect. cnn and the like helped push us into the iraqi war and more but lets not talk about them right? we know the game you're playing and i hope it blows up in your face.

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    yall are just too funny... in that same breath you won't mention elsagate, isis vids, ect. cnn and the like helped push us into the iraqi war and more but lets not talk about them right? we know the game you're playing and i hope it blows up in your face.
    You're too funny. You want to change ht subject every other post.

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    Dear Dr Ron Paul withe da goods

    True American patriot

    “You get accused of treasonous activity and treasonous speech because in an empire of lies the truth is treason,” Paul said. “Challenging the status quo is what they can’t stand and it unnerves them, so they have to silence people.”

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    IN AN EMPIRE OF LIES, TRUTH IS TREASON

    thank you Dr Paul.

    Im gonna use that from now on

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    DarrinS, do you think there should be government oversight of digital platforms?


    Chris, Spurtacular: same question. do y'all favor state control of social media?
    Way to tag me for bland generic questions. Reality is you want to justify fascism, tbh.

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    You're too funny. You want to change ht subject every other post.
    you say this but it's not fact just because you say it is pavTHETIC. i'm on the same subject, TOS.

    no red line... just remember that when the rest of us get fed up with the hypocrisy.

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    Way to tag me for bland generic questions. Reality is you want to justify fascism, tbh.
    Says the got who cant stop mentioning and quoting people with garbage nonsense 247.

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    Says the got who cant stop mentioning and quoting people with garbage nonsense 247.
    what color is your dress today mam?

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    Free Speech is limited on non-government-owned channels with terms and conditions that you must agree to prior to communicating on those channels.

    Alex Jones violated this limit by saying things that are against their terms and conditions despite agreeing to them.
    The limits on speech for those platforms are whatever the owners of those platforms want them to be. They are clearly listed in each platform's terms of service.

    Alex Jones violated the hate speech, bullying and violence terms of service he agreed to.

    Pretty simple stuff. I can see how you would struggle with it.

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    Dear Dr Ron Paul withe da goods

    True American patriot

    “You get accused of treasonous activity and treasonous speech because in an empire of lies the truth is treason,” Paul said. “Challenging the status quo is what they can’t stand and it unnerves them, so they have to silence people.”

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