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    Mike Flynn still a free man with no indictment

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    TSA In 2018: I was a younger man then.

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    Will there be new indictments right before or after this Labor Day weekend?
    From Mueller? SD NY? (60 days before/after an election)

    I think Mueller will defer to the SD NY (a little bit longer) just to keep Trump unsure of who to go after next - while the midterms change the political landscape. The statute of limitations are also a factor and Mueller probably sees that the GOP will not impeach - so why hurry the major crimes/indictments - since the statutes take effect once an indictment is rendered. IIRC - Felonies are 6 years in New York state.
    Trump may or may not be impeached but will certainly be prosecuted after 2020 when he is out of office.

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    Zero evidence has come out against Trump, with Hillary we've been provided with hundreds of instances of the law being broken.
    I would call someone who pleads guilty in federal court that he committed a felony with Trump to be "evidence".

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    you don't drop pizzagate
    pizzagate drops you

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    djohn2oo8 add another Dem to the no Trump/Russian collusion list
    ah... the simpler times of "no collusion" how far those goal posts get moved...

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    Randomguy just ended ol boy


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    Total let down of testimony for djohn2oo8 today. Add 2 more top intel officials to the no collusion crowd
    The only question now, is how much collusion went on, besides all the secret meetings we now know about.

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    Mensch is easy to debunk on the spot. To this day no one's debunked pizzagate nor solved the Seth Rich murder.
    so sure... so wrong...

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    so sure... so wrong...
    he thought Seth Rich was Guccifer

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    That is also a pretty good point, although when Trump goes down in flames (insert Hindenburg graphic with Trumps face on it here) the most likely effect is a Democratic congress, or at the very least one with a far slimmer margin for the GOP.
    70% chance at this point, and we still have two whole more months of Trump ups, stupid lies, and new failures before then.

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    I would call someone who pleads guilty in federal court that he committed a felony with Trump to be "evidence".
    Name one charge that ties Trump with Russian election collusion. Just one.

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    Russians claim to have 'derogatory' financial information that can be used as leverage over Trump

    One source described the information as financial in nature and said the discussion centered on whether the Russians had leverage over Trump's inner circle. The source said the intercepted communications suggested to US intelligence that Russians believed

    "they had the ability to influence the administration through the derogatory information."

    … a series of very deep studies published in the [Financial Times] that examined

    the structure and history of several major Trump real estate projects from the last decade—the period after his seventh bankruptcy and the cancellation of all his bank lines of credit. ...

    The money to build these projects flowed almost entirely from Russian sources.

    In other words, after his business crashed, Trump was floated and made to appear to operate a successful business enterprise through the

    infusion of hundreds in millions of cash from dark Russian sources.

    He was their man.

    What seems to be clear is that the Russians thought—think—they have details that put the Trump regime under the Kremlin’s thumb.

    CNN has not been able to verify the allegations about the derogatory information in the dossier, but current and former US officials say

    some of the Russia-to-Russia conversations in the dossier have been corroborated.

    These were the Russians bragging among themselves about their hold on the Trump regime. That makes it seem unlikely this was part of the broad distribution of propaganda used to assist Trump.

    Considering that Manafort obtained a mysterious loan immediately after leaving Trump’s campaign and used that to leverage the purchase of multi-million dollar oceanfront property, looking into his finances seems like a fair bet.

    https://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/...tail=emaildkre

    True over a year ago, true today.

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    Name one charge that ties Trump with Russian election collusion. Just one.
    No chance in Mueller would lead with those charges.

    Are there even any active investigations into all the conspiracies you've listed in this thread?

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    Name one charge that ties Trump with Russian election collusion. Just one.
    Damn look how far the goalposts have moved.

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    Name one charge that ties Trump with Russian election collusion. Just one.
    Tell you what.

    Why don't you post right here, right now, that there will never be any charges of any Trump staffer related to collusion. Please, oh please...

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    No chance in Mueller would lead with those charges.
    not even a single mention in any of the indictments to tie to a larger conspiracy. Zero.

    Are there even any active investigations into all the conspiracies you've listed in this thread?
    Sure. Do you think Strock, McCabe, Ohr etc are just testifying for fun? Do you think the Wolfe indictment was make believe?

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    No chance in Mueller would lead with those charges.

    Are there even any active investigations into all the conspiracies you've listed in this thread?
    This. Russians were indicted first to establish that crimes involving the election occurred. Then tie any Americans involved back to the established crimes.

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    not even a single mention in any of the indictments to tie to a larger conspiracy. Zero.
    Exactly. Why would they release that before they had actual charges ready, TSA. Explain your legal strategy that calls for that.


    Sure. Do you think Strock, McCabe, Ohr etc are just testifying for fun? Do you think the Wolfe indictment was make believe?
    Wolfe was about leaks, not your conspiracy.

    The others are testifying to Congress for show. There has been, what, one criminal referral? -- and that hasn't been acted on.

    lol TSA

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    This. Russians were indicted first to establish that crimes involving the election occurred. Then tie any Americans involved back to the established crimes.
    TSA thinks Mueller should run his investigation like Giuliani and Nunes running around just smearing bull hoping to influence opinion polls.

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    Damn look how far the goalposts have moved.
    This thread has gone from Trump/Russia election collusion to hoping to tie a campaign finance charge to Trump. And you want to talk about goalpost moves

    You stupid s are trying to pretend it was never about Trump/Russia now?

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    This thread has gone from Trump/Russia election collusion to hoping to tie a campaign finance charge to Trump. And you want to talk about goalpost moves

    You stupid s are trying to pretend it was never about Trump/Russia now?
    It just drives you crazy that Mueller won’t clear Trump eh

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    Tell you what.

    Why don't you post right here, right now, that there will never be any charges of any Trump staffer related to collusion. Please, oh please...
    You could have just manned up and said you couldn’t name a single charge.

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    TSA thinks Mueller should run his investigation like Giuliani and Nunes running around just smearing bull hoping to influence opinion polls.
    The kid is clearly losing his .

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