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    that said, maybe djohn is right. maybe evidence that Paul Ryan spread around Russian campaign cash will come to light. it hasn't yet.
    Some has already. Plenty of Russian cash went from Russia>NRA>GOP. (Public info already)

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    Ryan doesn't need to be compromised to be as guilty as the lot.

    He's more than happy to allow his own house members do as they please. Nunes for example being the more egregious one.

    In reality Nunes should have been removed from his post but since he's Ryan's boy he gets to break the rules most so than others.

    BTW, most of the GOP is compromised one way or the other. One obvious en y that owns the GOP being the NRA.

    They have them hostage. Now Trump has them hostage along with the NRA.
    Don’t explain anything to him. He’s Darrin Jr.

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    Some has already. Plenty of Russian cash went from Russia>NRA>GOP. (Public info already)
    yep.

    if there's evidence connecting it to Paul Ryan I'm all ears.

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    Bob Woodard Drops Bombs About Trump. Democrats Will Not Be Happy.


    https://www.dailywire.com/news/35918...mpaign=dwbrand

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    Bob Woodard is one reporter. That he failed to get a scoop is hardly news.

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    lol Hugh Hewitt

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    lol ducks

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    With the losing side saying “unless you score 10 more goals then we still win somehow!”
    The other side is in power. They already won.

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    Don’t explain anything to him. He’s Darrin Jr.
    This is also BS.

    If you have read any of Winehole’s stuff you know that’s absolutely ridiculous.
    This is hardened left excoriating anyone who does not completely by in.
    This is interesting as this is what happens when extreme views can’t handle legit questioning. Ryan is a political animal. He was chosen to get the right on track. Make peace between the freedom caucus and the conservative right. The moderates sit on the sidelines. It’s Ryan’s job to get his Party communicating, which is very difficult.

    And as far as why he wants to leave... He can’t fckn win with this situation. Hardcore Trumpers have made this job impossible. He does nothing he feels is correct, all he does is babysit. Imo he jumps in later. After the Trumpers are expunged. Or not. Then he stays gone. But surely there is an easier way for him than breaking up children fighting. Imo he hates his job. And the next guy up will hate it as well.

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    He makes me so proud to be an American. I have so much respect for this man.

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    Pretty sure I called the NRA Russian ties out before anyone in the media. Funny how that’s all coming out. Also sure I noted which Trump campaign members were intially gonna be legally ed first.
    I understand why you are bitter. You generally have no ing clue of what’s going on and I get that. But you do have a few options. You really don’t have to read my threads. You complain about drivel, yet you keep coming to read my threads that’s got half a million views, with multiple indictments plea deals and Russian links everywhere. You complain about it but can’t stay away. You come to me for news and that’s okay baby boy. Now go sit in your corner and cry some more. Maybe when this is over I’ll allow you to get on your knees and beg for forgiveness. That’s the least I can do for you.
    lol

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    “When this is over”



    Snowflakes already hoping this to be over

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    Who says there has to be collusion for the investigation to be a success? Oh, the dip s like you who keep moving the goalposts
    I am no Trump apologist, but does this mindset not concern you in the least? I know Trump must go, but an open-ended investigation whose purpose, apparently, is to get a target vs. solve a crime, or uncover specific information (vs. any information) does trouble me.

    Also, am I allowed to be upset about the way both Garland AND Kavanaugh have been treated? Or can I only be disgusted about one of those travesty's?

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    I am no Trump apologist, but does this mindset not concern you in the least? I know Trump must go, but an open-ended investigation whose purpose, apparently, is to get a target vs. solve a crime, or uncover specific information (vs. any information) does trouble me.

    Also, am I allowed to be upset about the way both Garland AND Kavanaugh have been treated? Or can I only be disgusted about one of those travesty's?
    This IS the proper way an investigation works. In the USA at least. First, there has to be a reasonable amount of evidence that a crime has been committed. There was plenty - and other countries in the world were alarmed enough to also share what evidence they had observed between Russia and Trump team. Trump team responded by lying about every possible Russian meeting or incident. The intelligence agencies were on it. They began watching as they were required to do. Trump protected Flynn after Sally Yates warned the white house about Flynn. Then Trump fires Yates. Trump fires Comey.

    Of course - this was more than enough to warrant a special counsel.

    Every legitimate investigation includes this: "investigate crimes committed AND ANY OTHER CRIMES THAT ARISE IN THE COURSE OF THE INVESTIGATION."

    This is just the way the law in the USA works.

    So next time when you hear the Trumps and Hannities of the world whining about Mueller and acting like little snowflakes - you can rest assured that they could have avoided this by

    OBEYING THE LAWS OF THE USA.

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    This IS the proper way an investigation works. In the USA at least. First, there has to be a reasonable amount of evidence that a crime has been committed. There was plenty - and other countries in the world were alarmed enough to also share what evidence they had observed between Russia and Trump team. Trump team responded by lying about every possible Russian meeting or incident. The intelligence agencies were on it. They began watching as they were required to do. Trump protected Flynn after Sally Yates warned the white house about Flynn. Then Trump fires Yates. Trump fires Comey.

    Of course - this was more than enough to warrant a special counsel.

    Every legitimate investigation includes this: "investigate crimes committed AND ANY OTHER CRIMES THAT ARISE IN THE COURSE OF THE INVESTIGATION."

    This is just the way the law in the USA works.

    So next time when you hear the Trumps and Hannities of the world whining about Mueller and acting like little snowflakes - you can rest assured that they could have avoided this by

    OBEYING THE LAWS OF THE USA.
    I was just going to respond to him.

    These are real crimes these guys are committing.

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    "open-ended investigation whose purpose, apparently, is to get a target vs. solve a crime, or uncover specific information (vs. any information) does trouble me."

    such a sensitive soul

    At which point do so-called "open ended" investigators say

    "we must ignore the EVIDENCE of yet another crime just so the open-ended gets closed-ended"



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    I am no Trump apologist, but does this mindset not concern you in the least? I know Trump must go, but an open-ended investigation whose purpose, apparently, is to get a target vs. solve a crime, or uncover specific information (vs. any information) does trouble me.
    It has been the way of all special/independent prosecutors we've had so far, but this is a legit gripe. The normalization of lawfare pursued for the political end of disqualifying/hobbling high government officials has troubling implications for government in general.

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    I was just going to respond to him.

    These are real crimes these guys are committing.
    If this was Clinton getting a BJ - when the investigation was about Arkansas shenanigans...lol.

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    This IS the proper way an investigation works. In the USA at least. First, there has to be a reasonable amount of evidence that a crime has been committed. There was plenty - and other countries in the world were alarmed enough to also share what evidence they had observed between Russia and Trump team. Trump team responded by lying about every possible Russian meeting or incident. The intelligence agencies were on it. They began watching as they were required to do. Trump protected Flynn after Sally Yates warned the white house about Flynn. Then Trump fires Yates. Trump fires Comey.

    Of course - this was more than enough to warrant a special counsel.

    Every legitimate investigation includes this: "investigate crimes committed AND ANY OTHER CRIMES THAT ARISE IN THE COURSE OF THE INVESTIGATION."

    This is just the way the law in the USA works.

    So next time when you hear the Trumps and Hannities of the world whining about Mueller and acting like little snowflakes - you can rest assured that they could have avoided this by

    OBEYING THE LAWS OF THE USA.
    "You have nothing to fear as long as you haven't broken the law."

    Got it.

    That's EXACTLY what Jefferson, Madison and Hamilton had in mind.

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    It has been the way of all special/independent prosecutors we've had so far, but this is a legit gripe. The normalization of lawfare pursued for the political end of disqualifying/hobbling high government officials has troubling implications for government in general.
    Just draining the swamp - what is wrong with that?

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    Except that the criminal enterprise that is occupying the White House are not some poor innocent citizens - they are CRIMINALS who have committed crimes. No different than other criminals who commit crimes and are prosecuted.

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    I think this investigation was properly authorized, but I think 101A has a legit point about the political weaponization of investigations.

    The Starr investigation is the best recent example for me, an investigation into real estate shenanigans that ended up focussing on an affair with an intern -- four years after the investigation started.

    The serial House investigations of Benghazi strike me as an example in the same vein. There's no good reason for them to have gone on as long as they did, except to create a cloud of su ion over a presidential candidate.

    Can you see what's to be concerned about, or has the possible political benefit of the current one blinded you to possible drawbacks?

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    even properly authorized investigations can go off the rails.

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