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    we'll see or we won't.

    is there a precedent for Senators using outside counsel to question people at hearings?

    would such a person even have standing to speak?
    Likewise is there a precedent for accusing someone of rape via an appointment hearing?

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    My bet is that they won't need to, as she will refuse to testify under oath.

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    Likewise is there a precedent for accusing someone of rape via an appointment hearing?
    who is Clarence Thomas?

    not rape, I know, but something in a similar vein -- non-consensual sexual attention

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    My bet is that they won't need to, as she will refuse to testify under oath.
    how do you know? I hear people on the other side saying they're sure Kavanaugh will withdraw.

    what makes everyone so damn certain of their own predictions?

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    All she asks for is an FBI investigation. Under the penalty of perjury -so if her statements prove to be false she could be prosecuted. She is still willing to. She passed a polygraph.
    GOP/Kavanaugh/Trump - running away from an FBI investigation because they are hiding something. Trump lies that the FBI does not do "that sort of thing" and Trump s swallow this and open wide for more.

    The FBI conducted his background investigation. New allegations surfaced. Only the white house can authorize the FBI to re-open K's background. It would only take a few days. Anita Hills took 2-3 days.

    What are they hiding? Why won't K step up and demand an FBI investigation to clear his good name if he is innocent?

    Why is Trump scared to do his duty - to authorize the FBI to take care of business and get this done the right way. The honorable way?

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    All she asks for is an FBI investigation. Under the penalty of perjury -so if her statements prove to be false she could be prosecuted. She is still willing to. She passed a polygraph.
    I'd like to have an FBI investigation into a lot of things.
    I'm not getting one.

    Polygraphs? Huge range and plenty of times people have passed when lying and failed when telling the truth.

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    All she asks for is an FBI investigation. Under the penalty of perjury -so if her statements prove to be false she could be prosecuted. She is still willing to. She passed a polygraph.
    GOP/Kavanaugh/Trump - running away from an FBI investigation because they are hiding something. Trump lies that the FBI does not do "that sort of thing" and Trump s swallow this and open wide for more.

    The FBI conducted his background investigation. New allegations surfaced. Only the white house can authorize the FBI to re-open K's background. It would only take a few days. Anita Hills took 2-3 days.

    What are they hiding? Why won't K step up and demand an FBI investigation to clear his good name if he is innocent?

    Why is Trump scared to do his duty - to authorize the FBI to take care of business and get this done the right way. The honorable way?
    That's just playing dumb. Obviously the FBI investigation is to delay a vote so that no one can be confirmed before the mid-terms and the Dems have a shot of blocking Trump from nominating a judge. No one is scared of anything related to an investigation, but to be honest, the one you should be demanding an investigation from would be the local authorities as they have jurisdiction and the FBI does not. No clue as to why no one has demanded it.

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    All she asks for is an FBI investigation. Under the penalty of perjury -so if her statements prove to be false she could be prosecuted. She is still willing to. She passed a polygraph.
    GOP/Kavanaugh/Trump - running away from an FBI investigation because they are hiding something. Trump lies that the FBI does not do "that sort of thing" and Trump s swallow this and open wide for more.

    The FBI conducted his background investigation. New allegations surfaced. Only the white house can authorize the FBI to re-open K's background. It would only take a few days. Anita Hills took 2-3 days.

    What are they hiding? Why won't K step up and demand an FBI investigation to clear his good name if he is innocent?

    Why is Trump scared to do his duty - to authorize the FBI to take care of business and get this done the right way. The honorable way?
    35 years ago
    Never reported to anyone until now.
    Can't remember when it happened.
    Can't remember where it happened.
    Can't remember how she got there.
    Can't remember how she left there.
    The only three names she claims were there all say it never happened.

    What the are they gonna investigate? If she refuses to testify under oath her credibility is highly suspect.

    We all get that blue team will do anything to keep a conservative tie-breaker justice from being appointed.

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    That's just playing dumb. Obviously the FBI investigation is to delay a vote so that no one can be confirmed before the mid-terms and the Dems have a shot of blocking Trump from nominating a judge. No one is scared of anything related to an investigation, but to be honest, the one you should be demanding an investigation from would be the local authorities as they have jurisdiction and the FBI does not. No clue as to why no one has demanded it.
    You're either misinformed or lying.

    The FBI investigated Antia Hill's claims and it only took three days.

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    I don't know why Trump insisted on the worst appointee since Harriet Miers. That was before the allegations.

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    Boo, there is no way they would "Anita Hill" her in the age of MeToo with an election coming up.

    They would use a female attorney and softball question her, but if she refuses even that then they need to put this down as an unsubstantiated, questionable allegation and move on with a vote to confirm.
    You have way more confidence in elected Republicans than I do.

    There is a reason they dont' want an FBI investigation, as Dr. Ford has requested.

    Why do you think that the Republicans in congress don't want an investigation, but the woman making the accusations DOES?

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    35 years ago
    Never reported to anyone until now.
    Can't remember when it happened.
    Can't remember where it happened.
    Can't remember how she got there.
    Can't remember how she left there.
    The only three names she claims were there all say it never happened.

    What the are they gonna investigate? If she refuses to testify under oath her credibility is highly suspect.

    We all get that blue team will do anything to keep a conservative tie-breaker justice from being appointed.
    She has told her story to multiple people before now, years before he became the nominee, so bull on your first statement.

    She hasn't had a chance to speak to the rest of it definitively under oath, so the rest of your statements are unsubstantiated, questionable allegations in and of themselves.

    Why the aren't they going to investigate? It is felony assault by a nominee supreme court justice, FULLY within the statute of limitations of Maryland.


    We all get that red team will do anything to get a conservative tie-breaker justice appointed.

    No matter how morally repugnant that is.

    Advocating that we ignore this kind of thing, and ramming this guy down our throats right before the election is bull .

    Jeez dude, is there any kind of disgusting behavior you WILL hold a Republican responsible for? jesus
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    Hey ducks.

    You have no friends and no one likes you. You are the most unintelligent person most of us will ever encounter.

    You're a piece of . Go yourself.

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    35 years ago
    Never reported to anyone until now.
    Can't remember when it happened.
    Can't remember where it happened.
    Can't remember how she got there.
    Can't remember how she left there.
    The only three names she claims were there all say it never happened.

    What the are they gonna investigate? If she refuses to testify under oath her credibility is highly suspect.

    We all get that blue team will do anything to keep a conservative tie-breaker justice from being appointed.
    Women almost NEVER make this stuff up. The ones that do tend to fall into a predictable pattern, easily identifiable to researchers.

    Her story does not in any way fit that pattern.

    https://www.npr.org/2018/02/06/58377...lt-are-treated

    Much more common is women who tell their true stories and are not believed.

    I have long ago given up any confidence that you will ever examine your underlying assumptions against anything that approaches evidence, but on the off chance you want to get off your lazy ass and think for a change, here is some of that.

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    She can be prosecuted for making false statements - yet she still wants the fbi involved.
    k is hiding behind the corrupt gop/trump.
    why?

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    She has told her story to multiple people before now, years before he became the nominee, so bull on your first statement.
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    who? The only one mentioned was the couples therapist in 2012 and it was FOUR unidentified guys that assaulted her according to the therapists notes.

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    Funny bit of full circle nonsense.

    For those of you who don’t know, I went to Georgetown Prep, where both Kavanaugh and Gorsuch went as well. When I came forward with allegations regarding Gary Orr, a former priest, sexually assaulting me…Mark Judge (Kavanaugh’s friend in this who de able story of sexual assault) reached out to alums saying that Gary Orr was a great priest and that I had obviously been corrupted by liberalism into a sexual and therefore was most definitely lying.

    THEN, years later when Orr admitted to raping a whole cadre of children, he said that Orr was raping kids because of the unchecked liberalism at Prep, and that regardless of whether or not I was telling the truth, I was a sexual and had it coming. Google “Mark Judge Gary Orr” and you will see what a f*cking loon this guy is, and with what malice he writes his right wing bull .

    So…for me to hear that this son of a is involved in the allegations of Kavanaugh attempting to rape a girl in high school comes as no surprise to me. It’s always the loudest most arrogant voices that are trying to hide the truth beneath the din of their own pompous voices.

    And by the way, the story that this woman is telling is one that I know was repeated dozens of times in my 4 years at Prep.

    “Men For Others” indeed…LOL.

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    If it were Obama, Repugs would investigate

    -- W Goldberg

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    who? The only one mentioned was the couples therapist in 2012 and it was FOUR unidentified guys that assaulted her according to the therapists notes.
    So, no there is no disgusting behavior you will hold a Republican responsible for. Any excuse, any inconsistency is all you need to decide that a woman willing to brave death threats and personal ruin is making it up, just because "democrats".

    Got it.

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    If it were Obama, Repugs would investigate

    -- W Goldberg
    If it were an Obama nominee, they would make the Benghazi look like a middle school term paper.

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    So, no there is no disgusting behavior you will hold a Republican responsible for. Any excuse, any inconsistency is all you need to decide that a woman willing to brave death threats and personal ruin is making it up, just because "democrats".

    Got it.
    nice change of subject. Back your up or shut the up.

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    nice change of subject. Back your up or shut the up.
    She's willing to be interviewed by the FBI. Somehow to you this means she's lying.

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    You guys automatically assume Kavanaugh assaulted her because it benefits blue team.

    I will remain skeptical until she agrees to testify under oath.

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    You guys automatically assume Kavanaugh assaulted her because it benefits blue team.
    You automatically think she's lying because it benefits red team.

    I will remain skeptical until she agrees to testify under oath.
    How is being interviewed by the FBI different?

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    Merrick Garland was kept on ice for 442 days, what's the rush?

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