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    No, I think you invite the FBI to the hearing and you have them interrogate both Ford and Kavanaugh for the cameras and don't let the Senators talk at all. I actually like that idea more and more. But let's do this in public since that is the forum that Ford decided to use to address this grievance.
    disingenuous

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    what's expected in a court of law doesn't necessarily apply to a political committee meeting.

    the Senate Judiciary Committee isn't a judicially competent tribunal, nor should it hold itself out to be one.

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    So if you were her attorney, would you agree to that? Would you agree to be questioned only by the FBI at the hearing? It's just a public investigation instead of a private one.

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    So if you were her attorney, would you agree to that? Would you agree to be questioned only by the FBI at the hearing? It's just a public investigation instead of a private one.
    That isn't an investigation.

    You're completely disingenuous.

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    what's expected in a court of law doesn't necessarily apply to a political committee meeting.

    the Senate Judiciary Committee isn't a judicially competent tribunal, nor should it hold itself out to be one.
    Well I'm sure a hefty portion of them are lawyers. Certainly their aides are lawyers, or at least most of them. Look, I get that this is not a court of law. If it was, this would be tossed out because there is no evidence. But that doesn't mean you have to throw common sense. Legal rules exist because of years of applying them have shown that certain principles are important to discerning truth. It doesn't happen 100% of the time, but holding people to legal standards when a public accusation of a crime is made is only natural.

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    That isn't an investigation.

    You're completely disingenuous.
    It's not an investigation because it doesn't accomplish the delay that the Democrats want as part of their effort to Bork Kavanaugh.

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    It's not an investigation
    That part is right.

    Just have the FBI investigate all they can and then that can't be asked for anymore.

    Simple.

    It took three days for Hill. This should take less, according to you

    You don't even want that. What are you afraid of?

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    do you think women's outcries of rape should be taken serious and investigated? How do you feel about men who immediately and automatically call said women liars?
    I think that women who go through hours long rape kits and provide DNA evidence should be taken seriously and investigated before a woman who was not raped and can't remember details from 3 and a half decades ago. I say to both men and women - whatever the grievance - provide the proof (collaboration, pictures, DNA, details, etc).

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    I think that women who go through hours long rape kits and provide DNA evidence should be taken seriously and investigated before a woman who was not raped and can't remember details from 3 and a half decades ago. I say to both men and women - whatever the grievance - provide the proof (collaboration, pictures, DNA, details, etc).
    women provide rape kits and the police ignore them, by 100Ks

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    BECAUSE NOW WE NEED TO RUSH

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    women provide rape kits and the police ignore them, by 100Ks
    So where is the outrage by posters on this board for them compared to what they want done for this alleged attempted rape 35? years ago? What is the difference? Political.

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    So where is the outrage by posters on this board for them compared to what they want done for this alleged attempted rape 35? years ago? What is the difference? Political.
    Great. I am in favor of processing the rape kits.

    Now can you stop trying to change the subject?

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    Nice misdirect. The sanctimony really sells it
    From a government worker, no less.

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    So where is the outrage by posters on this board for them compared to what they want done for this alleged attempted rape 35? years ago? What is the difference? Political.
    K is up for SCOTUS, will screw Americans and America for decades, including screwing women out of health care, jobs, income.

    yeah, it's political, just like McC screwing Obama out of a SCOTUS judge was political.

    K will join 4 other oligarchy s and Americans will die by the 100Ks over his career.

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    I think that women who go through hours long rape kits and provide DNA evidence should be taken seriously and investigated before a woman who was not raped and can't remember details from 3 and a half decades ago. I say to both men and women - whatever the grievance - provide the proof (collaboration, pictures, DNA, details, etc).
    What about the women and little girls who are raped and afraid or embarrassed to make an outcry at the time of the assault. Later in life they find the courage to finally make an outcy. Is it too late for them or should we listen and investigate? I'll hang up and listen.

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    If ducks was female and could construct complete sentences, he'd be rmt.

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    What about the women and little girls who are raped and afraid or embarrassed to make an outcry at the time of the assault. Later in life they find the courage to finally make an outcy. Is it too late for them or should we listen and investigate? I'll hang up and listen.
    Should they come before the ones who already provided DNA evidence and have been waiting for years? - especially considering they cannot now provide DNA evidence with lesser chance of conviction?

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    K is up for SCOTUS, will screw Americans and America for decades, including screwing women out of health care, jobs, income.

    yeah, it's political, just like McC screwing Obama out of a SCOTUS judge was political.

    K will join 4 other oligarchy s and Americans will die by the 100Ks over his career.
    bou, I congratulate you. At least, you are willing to admit that it is political.

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    Should they come before the ones who already provided DNA evidence and have been waiting for years? - especially considering they cannot now provide DNA evidence with lesser chance of conviction?
    So anytime you bring up a legal issue we can just declare another issue to be more pressing so you can never speak of the original one again.

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    Should they come before the ones who already provided DNA evidence and have been waiting for years? - especially considering they cannot now provide DNA evidence with lesser chance of conviction?
    Thats a good question and I have to say it depends. Especially if the perpetrator is still living and possibly still committing rapes.

    Do you think they should have to wait years before their cries are heard or not be investigated at all just because they were too young or scared in the past?

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    bou, I congratulate you. At least, you are willing to admit that it is political.
    they're all ing politicians, politics is what the they do.

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    ^the troll thingy

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