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    Bad look for Beto

    nah, he wants to legalize drunk driving and burglary. that we know!

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    Is there anything you won't defend/like about a republican?

    Cruz is a terrible debater. He got destroyed...by Trump of all people.
    well he was on the debate team and pretty high up there too... you're just mad because you have to tuck your little weewee back everyday to play pretend.

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    LMAO koriwhat's Avatar
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    you support Ted Cruz
    i have no clue about his policies. jumping to conclusions as always mono. at least we know you can jump; although it's not physicality you possess.

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    KENS5 "who won" poll has Beto STOMPING 60% to 40%

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    Cruz is a champion debater, an appellate attorney, and senator. He’s got a strong advantage in this forum and it showed. Beto should ask for a town hall debate with ordinary people asking questions. I think he’d show better.

    Cruz achieved his goal: make Beto look like a far lefty for Texas standards. But I think Beto did a good job of taking to his base. He knows his base is smaller than Cruz’s base, but his job is to get high turnout and hope that Cruz’s base gets low turnout in a midterm election. I thought he did well, but his followers are going to want more fight and less flowery ideals.
    dude!! Cruz lost tonight.

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    WOW Cruz really OWNED him here!1!1!!!

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    Watch as Ted Cruz DESTROYS Beto by pointing hes not actually a racist!

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    Is there anything you won't defend/like about a republican?

    Cruz is a terrible debater. He got destroyed...by Trump of all people.
    I’m team Beto, but Cruz won the debate.

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    Reck

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    I’m team Beto, but Cruz won the debate.
    I did the zero volume thing for 30 seconds. I was unnerved by how veiny/tendony/strained Beto's neck looked. Oddly, it didn't look like that from the other side.

    Beto also did a lot of swaying and bobbing. Cruz is clearly more attuned with the "cool" impassive TV style of presentation. Beto's been out in the hustings, straining his voice on the stump and it shows.
    Beto has hustle but not polish. TV ain't a local VFW or banquet hall.

    Texas still either hates libs, or strains not to be caught resembling them.

    Advantage Cruz.

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    Cruz looked like a pinched, neurotic machine, controlled and rehearsed and frankly fake, but visually, for TV purposes, that's good.

    I think Cruz squeaks this one out, but it should be a wake up call.

    2016 should have been a wake up call. Trump did five points worse than Mitt Romney.
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    against Hilary effing Clinton

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    To be fair Cruz is in Tucker Carlson and Ben Shapiro territory concerning a debate so Beto really never stood a chance.

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    Cruz is better at the forensics for sure, but look at DJT. That isn't necessarily required.

    It's a closer race than it should be, If Cruz were a generic Republican he'd be doing better.

    He ran for president in the last election, frankly face planted in it, and so, is more vulnerable than he would otherwise be.

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    Beto loses, but not by as much as he should.

    Cruz is relatively detestable for a Texas Republican.

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    I’m less concerned about the optics (though they’re important nevertheless). Cruz had a tight message, knew who he needed to speak to, got his shots in, and appeared and sounded in control. He was on the offensive. Beto didn’t have the composure or the message (or at least was effective in delivering it) that he needed he. Beto is in the mood of Obama’s, but is clearly less effective.

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    Lyin' Rafe's problem that he, in his self-congratulating splendor-in-his-own-head, won't solve is that he's a hated priggish prick, raised by a Christian prick father.

    But the TX Repug tribe / evangelical Christian supremacists will vote ANY Repug prick, blindly.

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    I like Beto. His responses aren't canned, he has a great message and real ideas. He doesn't stick to "talking points" like Ted Cruz. Those are the exact "politics of old" that I and everyone around me is ing tired of. I'm tired of talking points. I'm tired of lies and diversions. I'm glad Beto didn't fall into that.

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    It's less about winning the debates and more about turning viewers into likely voters. Ted Cruz has an ideological advantage but an enthusiasm gap. He either has to rally more unlikely conservative voters to show up, or plant doubts to demotivate some of the new voters Beto has picked up.

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    Beto did a good job

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    Is there anything you won't defend/like about a republican?

    Cruz is a terrible debater. He got destroyed...by Trump of all people.


    I really dislike Trump. But he actually mowed through each one of those guys pretty thoroughly during those debates. He destroyed Jeb so bad the entire Bush family hates his guts. Even against Hillary who I thought was going to destroy Trump, he actually had a few one liners that left her pretty much dumbfounded. Trump is quick witted and that helps him out a lot.

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    Personally I didn’t like the “true to form” comment. I know why he needed to call Lyin Ted on his bull , but it seemed a little childish.
    Well - I agreed with that one.

    Both candidates were told to say something nice/decent about their opponent. Beto did.
    Cruz basically called him a socialist and pretended it was a compliment.

    True to form.

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    Cruz was in attack mode all night. The "true to form" response was the least he could do, imo.

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    WOW Cruz really OWNED him here!1!1!!!

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    Watch as Ted Cruz DESTROYS Beto by pointing hes not actually a racist!
    Mr. O'Rourke has a really turrible Obama impersonation tbh

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    Mr. O'Rourke has a really turrible Obama impersonation tbh

    I noticed that too. He pauses in between words almost identical to Obama.

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    Personally I didn’t like the “true to form” comment. I know why he needed to call Lyin Ted on his bull , but it seemed a little childish.
    Didn't seem childish to me. I can't really think of any more preferable response (it certainly beats something like "typical" or "that was uncalled for"). It was the perfect brush-off because he avoided outrage and sarcasm. It would have been easy to look like the weaker party there. He didn't.

    He turned a side jab by Cruz into the most memorable and defining part of the debate and highlighted exactly what he needed to highlight by doing so: that Cruz is divisive and unlikeable.

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