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    Did you not know the polls would tighten as we approach election day so that no matter what polling firms can claim they were accurate? It only happens every single election.
    Sure they will.

    I am also sure that the Republican party will face a shift in the electorate due to Kavanaugh's nomination, and President PussyGrabber's mishandling of it. Women are ANGRY.

    What I do know is that the polls don't shift too much after the end of August, where they stood at a substantial shift.

    People like you have been saying "where is the shift, look at how powerful we is" for a while now, ignoring the fact that your party has to cheat their fellow citizens out of voting to do that, and this election cycle would appear to be the beginning of that shift away from the party that used to call itself "conservative", but now is just the Party.

    Kind of hard to have a party with ideas for governing if your overriding ideology is to see how ty you can be to other people.

    The language of "own the libs"
    "lib "
    "snowflakes"
    " your feelings"

    Sums it up. Morally and intellectually bankrupt, and easily shown to be so. No ideas on how to solve problems, no moral compass, everything you say Democrats have been for a while, you have become.

    But hey, Red Wave. You guys have got it, so you can probably stay home November, and do whatever it is that you do, kick puppies or something, I dunno.

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    But hey, Red Wave. You guys have got it, so you can probably stay home November, and do whatever it is that you do, kick puppies or something, I dunno.
    lol kick puppies

    We shoot puppies with our AR15's dumbass

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    I was right on 10 out of 18. That is over 50%. Good enough to make money in Vegas.
    Dude lost, and lost badly. A retrial would have likely seen guilty on the remainder, by the analysis I saw. One of the reasons he pled out on the other charges and is now telling Mueller everything he wants to know.

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    lol kick puppies

    We shoot puppies with our AR15's dumbass
    Sure. That.

    smh

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    Dude lost, and lost badly. A retrial would have likely seen guilty on the remainder, by the analysis I saw. One of the reasons he pled out on the other charges and is now telling Mueller everything he wants to know.
    Manafort won 10, and lost 8. 10-8 gets you into the NBA playoff if you keep that up you would go 45-36.

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    No, your prediction was 100% wrong.

    You would've lost all your money in Vegas.
    No way, if you bet separately, say $100 even money on each count. Then you win $1000 and lose $880 if you pay the juice.

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    No way, if you bet separately, say $100 even money on each count. Then you win $1000 and lose $880 if you pay the juice.
    You didn't bet separately.

    You lost.

    Also, Manafort copped to all those charges in his plea agreement.

    You lost twice.

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    Dude you've become wound way too tight over politics.

    Cheer up, Dems should* take the house by a small majority next month and you can come out of your depression. I'm a conservative so a divided government incapable of governing is just fine by me.

    *If they haven't overplayed their hand chasing the Senate. All they really had to do is stfu and they would have won the house anyway.

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    I'm a conservative so a divided government incapable of governing is just fine by me.
    This is an ignorant comment. Limited federal government and incapable government aren’t synonymous.

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    This is an ignorant comment. Limited federal government and incapable government aren’t synonymous.
    That context thingy is always tricky for you. If you think a Democrat controlled house and a GOP Senate will be anything more than incapable of governing, you haven't been keeping up.

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    Manafort won 10, and lost 8. 10-8 gets you into the NBA playoff if you keep that up you would go 45-36.
    Red team let you speak on the radio...

    What an abortion.
    Won 10? Hung jury is a win... And you go to jail and sing like a canary.
    Yea you win cabbage head. You get to spout off nonsense while the guy with the suit and tie serves up time as an old man.

    Its all about claimed W’s and L’s because facts don’t exist.

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    That context thingy is always tricky for you. If you think a Democrat controlled house and a GOP Senate will be anything more than incapable of governing, you haven't been keeping up.
    And? As a conservative that’s somehow good?

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    This is an ignorant comment. Limited federal government and incapable government aren’t synonymous.
    both are objectives of the oligarchy

    limited AND incapable by defunding into dysfunctionality, while being operated by kakistocracy whose objectives are to run govt as the enemy of the people and environment.
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    Dude you've become wound way too tight over politics.

    Cheer up, Dems should* take the house by a small majority next month and you can come out of your depression. I'm a conservative so a divided government incapable of governing is just fine by me.

    *If they haven't overplayed their hand chasing the Senate. All they really had to do is stfu and they would have won the house anyway.
    You should look into who becomes the chair of the House Finance Subcomittee. That should be interesting.

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    [trolling directed at Randomguy]
    You can't talk ideas or values, just personal attacks. Sokay, you keep making my case for me about how little modern "conservatives" care for the truth or anything that resembles fairness or kindness.

    Modern GOP has abandoned traditional conservatism and has made "being a " their central, morally and intellectually bankrupt, core ideology.
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    That context thingy is always tricky for you. If you think a Democrat controlled house and a GOP Senate will be anything more than incapable of governing, you haven't been keeping up.
    If you think the Republicans are going to control the Senate after 2020, you haven't been keeping up. At that time, the Democrats will control all 3 branches of government, probably by a pretty hefty majority.

    Trump will almost certainly be the last Republican president in my lifetime.

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    If you think the Republicans are going to control the Senate after 2020, you haven't been keeping up. At that time, the Democrats will control all 3 branches of government, probably by a pretty hefty majority.

    Trump will almost certainly be the last Republican president in my lifetime.
    Why are you counting chickens that won't hatch for more than two years?

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    Why are you counting chickens that won't hatch for more than two years?
    Whenever I read "republican x will be the last republican president ever" I chuckled a little.

    Like are people expecting to die in their early 40s and 50s? The Republican party can rework itself in a matter of a few years if they really wanted to. And they'll have to eventually when all the ducks and Darrins of the world start dying out which is within that window.

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    Whenever I read "republican x will be the last republican president ever" I chuckled a little.

    Like are people expecting to die in their early 40s and 50s? The Republican party can rework itself in a matter of a few years if they really wanted to. And they'll have to eventually when all the ducks and Darrins of the world start dying out which is within that window.
    Not to mention the fact that white conservatives reproduce at a higher rate than white liberals and that people generally become more conservative as they get older.

    Anyone who thinks millennials are going to vote overwhelmingly democrat 20 years from now the way they do now is re ed.

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    Why are you counting chickens that won't hatch for more than two years?
    California electoral college votes: 55
    New York electoral college votes: 29
    Texas electoral college votes: 38

    Total: 122

    122/270 =45% of the votes needed to win the Presidency are in three states. You need one or two other moderately sized states to go along.

    Democratic long term strategy is to get Texas to vote more. Most new votes will be captured by the Democratic party, moving texas towards blue.

    Once the GOP loses its stranglehold on Texas, and it even just becomes a compe ive state, the GOP will have very few paths to winning the Presidency. They will have to win almost every other state in the union.

    Trump, if he is running, will lose badly. If not, then whoever runs in his place will also lose badly, just as Bush's party suffered in 2008, giving the Democrats a likely two terms of the Presidency, meaning the next possible compe ive presidential race will be 2028, with another ten years into the demographic tsunami that will sweep the GOP into national irrelevance over the long term.

    If you look at how many Sentante Republicans are up in 2020, the map for them has a LOT more seats they have to defend, and defend that in a year that will have seen four full years of miserable failure in the current administration.

    The Democratic majority will have the advantage of in bency and running against a deeply unpopular POS president, backed by his sniveling sycophantic party. This makes the case for who is going to be better to govern easy.

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    Not to mention the fact that white conservatives reproduce at a higher rate than white liberals and that people generally become more conservative as they get older.

    Anyone who thinks millennials are going to vote overwhelmingly democrat 20 years from now the way they do now is re ed.
    People get more conservative as they get older but the standards for what is a conservative change too. 25 years go ago things like gay marriage and pornography were huge issues with christian conservatives and theyve basically thrown the towel in on those. they wanted to ban porn in the 70s and 80s and now I can google ass to mouth porno and be spanking it in 2 seconds atm

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    So basically who knows exactly what it will mean to be conserative in say 2035 or something. Maybe very different than today

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    Whenever I read "republican x will be the last republican president ever" I chuckled a little.

    Like are people expecting to die in their early 40s and 50s? The Republican party can rework itself in a matter of a few years if they really wanted to. And they'll have to eventually when all the ducks and Darrins of the world start dying out which is within that window.
    The Republican party and its donor class will not allow a "reworking" of the party. They have spent almost two full decades crushing any dissent from a very, very narrow list of acceptable views.

    They are so rabidly politically correct in their own way, they cannot change. It has become a cult, with a built in echo-chamber that is very, very hard to escape.

    I do not see that ever happening in my lifetime.

    I say few things with any certainty, but this is one of the things I am more certain about than anything. The money is too entrenched in its own self interest for that.

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    California electoral college votes: 55
    New York electoral college votes: 29
    Texas electoral college votes: 38

    Total: 122

    122/270 =45% of the votes needed to win the Presidency are in three states. You need one or two other moderately sized states to go along.

    Democratic long term strategy is to get Texas to vote more. Most new votes will be captured by the Democratic party, moving texas towards blue.

    Once the GOP loses its stranglehold on Texas, and it even just becomes a compe ive state, the GOP will have very few paths to winning the Presidency. They will have to win almost every other state in the union.

    Trump, if he is running, will lose badly. If not, then whoever runs in his place will also lose badly, just as Bush's party suffered in 2008, giving the Democrats a likely two terms of the Presidency, meaning the next possible compe ive presidential race will be 2028, with another ten years into the demographic tsunami that will sweep the GOP into national irrelevance over the long term.

    If you look at how many Sentante Republicans are up in 2020, the map for them has a LOT more seats they have to defend, and defend that in a year that will have seen four full years of miserable failure in the current administration.

    The Democratic majority will have the advantage of in bency and running against a deeply unpopular POS president, backed by his sniveling sycophantic party. This makes the case for who is going to be better to govern easy.
    I heard this same about Texas going blue in 2008. About Bush being an anchor around the Republicans necks in 2004. Texas is nowhere close to going purple even and the midwest is trending redder. Making a forecast that we'll never see another Repbulican president in your lifetime is lunacy, especially when we don't have a good idea who will be the Democrats' pick to run in 2020. How many people are going to be inspired by someone like Cory Booker? And yet he's a leading candidate. Beating Trump in 2020 is pretty far from a given, much less winning in each of 2020, 2024, 2028, 2032, 2036, 2040, 2044, 2048, 2052, 2056, and so on.

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