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    It's not the Bill of Privileges. You'd have to have a major revolution, coup, and purge of the gene pool to get anywhere close to what you're suggesting.
    The Bill of Rights was actually passed through the same process that amended and can still amend the cons ution. So there’s a way. I don’t think I would particularly see the change in my lifetime, but that doesn’t mean that every one of these episodes don’t put additional mounting pressure to do something about it. It doesn’t even have to be a complete removal of the right, but a more carefully tailored wording would likely go a long way towards making some common sense regulations withstand legal scrutiny. And yes, it might take a fairly large social movement for that to happen.

    The entire subject is an appeal to emotion. In the grand scheme of crime/deaths it's not even on the radar yet we only discuss gun control when these emotional events happen. You cannot very well make it a big deal on day then on day two take the 10 thousand foot view and break out the stats, and hope to not be right back here in a short amount of time with zero progress.
    You can actually talk about some of this stuff in non-emotional/non-anecdotal ways (ie: we can discuss mental health problems that lead to this, magazine capacities, etc). What makes it useless is that there’s no traction due to the fact that certain people simply don’t want to even address the problem, or at least a problem big enough to be addressed without entering into some slippery slope area. And so this is largely why we keep coming back to this without moving forward in any direction.


    One person who doesn't fit the criteria killed 11 in that temple.

    I respect your thoughts on the matter but I feel they are more wishful thinking than possible solutions. The toothpaste cannot go back into the tube in this country. We should operate with that in mind. We cannot even stop people from killing each other in a city that has all but banned guns. Even in prisons people kill each other and there are armed guards. So we are broken down on the side of the road, at night, in the middle of nowhere and we have the tools we brought with us. We can hope someone brings us a new car or that we find a tool box in the woods, but we'd be best to try to fix the car with the tools available to us.
    Could be a pipe dream. Certainly I don’t see even an attempt to use the available toolbox to at least try to bandaid the problem. There’s a lot of polarization and certainly not a good time for this, but I think public opinion can be swayed over time. At least I’d like to think as civil humans we can do a lot better than this.

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    " "people" simply don’t want to even address the problem"

    people didn't cause the gun proliferation and gun violence problem, and they know they are powerless to solve it.

    "people" are powerless to solve any problem, make any progress For The People, not matter how "swayed" their opinions are

    Get a ing clue who runs the USA for profit, and it certainly ain't the "people"



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    the Jews come up to punctuate specific key phrases. Soros: “those who control the levers of power in Washington”; Yellen “global special interests”; Blankfein “put money into the pockets of handful of large corporations.”

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    Fox aired this on the day of the Tree of Life massacre

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    in 2017 Trump blamed anti-semitism on Jews trying to make him look bad, a few hours after David Duke said the same thing.

    Mr Trump responded by calling the threats "reprehensible, but then added that, "sometimes it's the reverse, to make people or to make others look bad." Mr Shapiro said that he had repeated the word "reverse" a number of times, stressing that the attacks might be perpetuated by Jewish people.
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a7604801.html
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    The rest of your posts illustrate that you cannot discuss this objectively.
    You're not discussing it objectively either. A dismissive wave of the hand is just that.

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    A black church in Louisville, Kentucky prevented a massacre by locking the doors.

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    MAGAbomber

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    Fox aired this on the day of the Tree of Life massacre

    Farrell has evidence about his hated Jew Soros?

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    The rest of your posts illustrate that you cannot discuss this objectively.
    This post demonstrates that you're shielding DJT from responsibility for his own words.

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    see the globe?


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    the Soros boogeyman

    Still not clear to me why Soros using his wealth/resources to influence politics is so evil when the right has guys like Charles Koch and Sheldon Adelson who have more wealth and pour more money into politics than Soros does.

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    the Soros boogeyman

    Still not clear to me why Soros using his wealth/resources to influence politics is so evil when the right has guys like Charles Koch and Sheldon Adelson who have more wealth and pour more money into politics than Soros does.
    For the VRWC / oligarchy / Repugs, any opposition is illegitimate.

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    I hope DMC sprains his wrist patting himself on the back for his objectivity during the dry run for fascism.

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    11 People Dead in Pittsburgh, drumpf Jokes About Having "A Bad Hair Day."




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    Trump jokes that he considered cancelling speech to FFA

    not b/c of the mass shooting in Pittsburgh,

    but b/c his hair got wet while talking w/reporters about the shooting.

    "At least you know it's mine...

    I said, 'maybe I should cancel this arrangement b/c I have a bad hair day.'"


    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/10/27/1807738/-11-People-Dead-in-Pittsburgh-drumpf-Jokes-About-Having-A-Bad-Hair-Day?detail=emaildkre


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    You're not discussing it objectively either. A dismissive wave of the hand is just that.
    This post demonstrates that you're shielding DJT from responsibility for his own words.
    Did you get it all out?

    Please continue with your repository style "see I told you so" posting of tweets and memes.

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    The Bill of Rights was actually passed through the same process that amended and can still amend the cons ution. So there’s a way. I don’t think I would particularly see the change in my lifetime, but that doesn’t mean that every one of these episodes don’t put additional mounting pressure to do something about it. It doesn’t even have to be a complete removal of the right, but a more carefully tailored wording would likely go a long way towards making some common sense regulations withstand legal scrutiny. And yes, it might take a fairly large social movement for that to happen.
    Consider hate speech, for example. There's a push now to do something about it. Do you think the 1st Amendment will be altered?

    We live in a country of people who have no concern for other people. In Japan, people will stand in long lines and wait their turn because they are conditioned over generations to consider the collective and use an honor system. In the US, it's every man for himself and has been since the onset. That will not change with legislation. When you have so many different cultures who fundamentally disagree with one another, all living together, you're going to have issues. Japan has a geneous culture and Americans living there often stand out because they bring with them American tendencies to bypass courtesy in favor of being 1st. Individualism is king in the US. We talk about players instead of teams. Players on their own teams to get ahead in the game (Kawhi Leonard) and the concept of honor is just a fancy talking point. That won't change in our lifetimes and it's not getting better.
    You can actually talk about some of this stuff in non-emotional/non-anecdotal ways (ie: we can discuss mental health problems that lead to this, magazine capacities, etc). What makes it useless is that there’s no traction due to the fact that certain people simply don’t want to even address the problem, or at least a problem big enough to be addressed without entering into some slippery slope area. And so this is largely why we keep coming back to this without moving forward in any direction.
    We have talked about it for years. Nothing has changed. We don't move forward because the proposed changes are ineffective placebos ( https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sho...&highlight=gun ) and even those placebos are resisted by conservatives. The suggesting that a full gun ban be considered was treated like a radioactive waste drum because the left is afraid to go there in fear they will isolate a large portion of their voter base.
    Could be a pipe dream. Certainly I don’t see even an attempt to use the available toolbox to at least try to bandaid the problem. There’s a lot of polarization and certainly not a good time for this, but I think public opinion can be swayed over time. At least I’d like to think as civil humans we can do a lot better than this.
    Public opinion doesn't move the supreme court.

    My point is that "someday someone will do something about it" isn't a viable plan. I've asked people here what they would propose as a solution and the large majority of them either refuse to answer or they say something similar to "someone needs to fix it".

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    11 People Dead in Pittsburgh, drumpf Jokes About Having "A Bad Hair Day."




    Aaron Rupar
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    Trump jokes that he considered cancelling speech to FFA

    not b/c of the mass shooting in Pittsburgh,

    but b/c his hair got wet while talking w/reporters about the shooting.

    "At least you know it's mine...

    I said, 'maybe I should cancel this arrangement b/c I have a bad hair day.'"


    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/10/27/1807738/-11-People-Dead-in-Pittsburgh-drumpf-Jokes-About-Having-A-Bad-Hair-Day?detail=emaildkre


    some of the people who post here, like Boutons here, are very similar in approach to those who commit these shootings. Many of you are mentally unstable hermits who spend your lives campaigning for a political cause through mass information reposting.

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    lol DMC

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    Chumpy upset that a page went by without his narrative rodeo being involved.

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    Chumpy upset that a page went by without his narrative rodeo being involved.
    DMC upset I laughed at his narrative.

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